FPC Decision: Taka’s Behaviour (Multiple Reports Combined)

[Hansa]

After reviewing Taka’s behaviour over an extended period and evaluating multiple reports, the FPC has decided not to issue a fine or ban at this time.

We acknowledge that Taka’s conduct has significantly improved in recent months. However, he remains under observation, and any future deterioration in his behaviour towards other teams may result in disciplinary action.

We are aware that some teams may not be satisfied with this decision. Nevertheless, we ask all parties to refrain from further escalating the situation in the future.

At the same time, we encourage everyone to continue reporting any future incidents so that we can respond quickly if there is any deterioration in behaviour.

[Hoefs Cycling Team]

Happy decision and freedom for everyone. Don't turn love into war: peace! Have a good Sunday everyone!

[team fl]

Happy decision and freedom for everyone. Don't turn love into war: peace! Have a good Sunday everyone!

Agree with you Hoefs. Or in other words: if you can be anything, be kind. Not only with words, but also through action.

[schappy]

Alles klar, dann weiß ich ja, wie hier mit wiederholende Beleidigungen umgegangen wird. Vielleicht solltet ihr die Fairplay-Regeln neu schreiben, damit die Leute wissen, woran sie hier sind.

[team fl]

Well, you wanted to know, now you know. But think about this: Why not just have the fairplay rules as guidelines, but your own inner moral compass? Golden rule and so on. Not eye for an eye. Sometimes it's hard, but who said it's easy in the first place. You only have total control over yourself (with exceptions). Anyway, also a happy Sunday to you, Schappy, hope your doing fine.

[NBeullens]

We acknowledge that Taka’s conduct has significantly improved in recent months.

10 cases opened on him since the start of 2026. (Some smaller than others) If that is a significant improvement he should have probably be banned before.

[team fl]

I am happy to conclude that a case openend isn't a verdict.

[NBeullens]

I am happy to conclude we lost another player cause of an idiot on this game. Schappy aint the first that leaves cause of bullying and he won't be the last. I have multiple guys that would make the game better if they were gone. Taka is one of them (and probably most obvious)

[team fl]

That's something the owners of the game have to think about. Schappy not happy was an obvious result of this decision. Can't tell if it's good or bad as I don't know what happened behind the curtains. I still think Hoef's words are true.

Btw. the "but players leave the game" argument is one that has been brought up a lot in the 20 years the game exist.

[NBeullens]

Then there is something wrong with the game for 20 years. Something bad shouldnt be normalized

[team fl]

Then there is something wrong with the game for 20 years. Something bad shouldnt be normalized

It's not black and white. But I think we could discuss endless about this. You seem to have your opinion and I respect that. Have a nice Sunday too.

[schappy]

Ich wollte eigentlich weiterspielen und den Chat einfach nicht mehr lesen, aber wenn selbst admins einfach anfangen mich grundlos zu beleidigen, dann ist es definitiv nicht das richtige Spiel.

[team fl]

Ich wollte eigentlich weiterspielen und den Chat einfach nicht mehr lesen, aber wenn selbst admins einfach anfangen mich grundlos zu beleidigen, dann ist es definitiv nicht das richtige Spiel.

Welcher Admin?

[flockmastoR]

2026-03-22 Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV Schappy -1 Unhöflicher Jammerlappen

Wenn ich mit dir ein Rennen fahre, dann bin ich ein Spieler. Wenn jemand nicht auf Fragen bezüglich Rennsituationen antwortet obwohl er online ist, dann ist das unhöflich. Selbst wenn es dein selbst auferlegtes Schweigegelübde bricht von dem ich eben erst erfahren habe. Ob der zweite Teil als strafbare Beleidigung durchgeht kann man sicher darüber streiten, das kann gerne das FPC beurteilen und ich äußere mich dann gerne intern dazu.

[NBeullens]

If everybody everytime they are angry just puts 'platypus -green day' everything will be great

[Alkworld]

That's something the owners of the game have to think about. Schappy not happy was an obvious result of this decision. Can't tell if it's good or bad as I don't know what happened behind the curtains. I still think Hoef's words are true.

Btw. the "but players leave the game" argument is one that has been brought up a lot in the 20 years the game exist.

Unless the situation becomes totally crazy, I see the community and the FPC within the community in charge. I have my opinion too in this situation, but that simply is an opinion as a member of the community.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Ich wollte eigentlich weiterspielen und den Chat einfach nicht mehr lesen, aber wenn selbst admins einfach anfangen mich grundlos zu beleidigen, dann ist es definitiv nicht das richtige Spiel.

schappy, deshalb aufzuhören würde nur die Provokateure bestärken. Lass die Leute reden, bleib höflich und sag nichts. Das ärgert sie am meisten.

95% der Spieler hier fallen ja nicht ständig mit Provokationen auf. Konzentrier dich auf die anstatt auf die anderen 5%, dann hast du auch weiterhin Freude am Spiel.

PS: Wenn Taka sehen könnte dass du beim Marketing des Spiels geholfen hast und wenn du sehen könntest, dass er beim Kalender vernünftig hilft, dann könntet ihr sogar jeweils etwas Positives im anderen sehen.

[Elmo-Tours]

1) Auch ich bin hier im Forum schon auf die Taka-Thematik gestoßen und die vielen Zitate aus den Chats der Rennen, die da von verschiedensten Leidtragenden geteilt wurden. Auf alte und auf neue Vorkommnisse. Ich finds grässlich. Ich sehe da auch überhaupt keinen Anlass mehr zur Nachsicht, wenn es jemandem offensichtlich Freude bereitet, sich über andere zu stellen und es ja offenbar an ernstgemeinter Einsicht fehlt. Denn er hat ja in keinster Weise seine toxischen Mechaniken abgelegt, er wählt seine Beleidigungen nun nur öfter etwas bewusster und versteckter.

Ebenso bedenklich finde ich es aber - und das musste ich hier schon öfter lesen - wenn sich die Beleidigten erklären müssen, warum sie sich durch eine Beleidigung beleidigt fühlen. Beispiele:
- "but where is the insult? is it "Shut the fuck up"? He just doesn't have your manners—he writes like that every day—but where is he insulting you? Sorry, but I can't see that here? (Mo Jun 30, 2025)
- "Edith says, this needs a disclaimer: I don't question your feeling of being insulted. I just wonder why you feel that way." (Mo Mär 16, 2026)

Ich arbeite hier mal ohne Namen und die gewählten Zitate stehen auch nur stellvertretend für den leider oft zu beobachtenden Umgang hier mit diesen Fällen aber ich möchte mich hier ganz klar verstanden wissen: das kann und darf nicht der Umgang miteinander sein, wenn man (1) asoziales Verhalten im Spiel unterbinden will und (2) die Leidtragenden dazu ermutigen will, asoziales Verhalten transparent zu machen, damit man als Spielleitung überhaupt einen Überblick erhält und die Chance hat, dem zu begegnen!

Auch finde ich es auch ehrlicherweise nicht tragbar, dass derartiges Verhalten hier darüber legitimiert wird, dass sich die Person ja auf anderer Ebene engagiert und Rennen erstellt. Ich persönlich möchte gar kein Rennen fahren, dass von jemandem erstellt wurde, der an anderer Stelle Anderen gern den Spaß verdirbt.

2) @Schappy falls du das noch liest: Es waren deine Videos, die mich vor 2 Monaten wieder zur Rückkehr bewegt haben. Ich hab hier seitdem viel Spaß und treffe auf einen Haufen netter und hilfsbereiter Mitspieler! Und das eben nicht zuletzt dank dir. Also vielen Dank dir und ich freue mich auf hoffentlich noch einige gemeinsame Rennen in der Zukunft.

[bergwerk cycling]

We are aware that some teams may not be satisfied with this decision.

This feels like a bad joke - Ol's list, rest in peace?

But we'll see what the future holds... and hopefully we won't remember this post again.
Let's hope for the best!


ps: schappy and ol plz comeback

[Gipfelstuermer]

Auch finde ich es auch ehrlicherweise nicht tragbar, dass derartiges Verhalten hier darüber legitimiert wird, dass sich die Person ja auf anderer Ebene engagiert und Rennen erstellt. Ich persönlich möchte gar kein Rennen fahren, dass von jemandem erstellt wurde, der an anderer Stelle Anderen gern den Spaß verdirbt.

Hi Elmo,
Ich wollte noch hierauf antworten, weil du eventuell mich meinst. Ich habe nichts legitimiert und als ich noch FPC Mitglied war, habe ich Beleidigungen stets sehr streng gehandhabt. Ich habe hier lediglich darauf hingewiesen dass Personen i.d.R. Schwächen und Stärken haben. Im Zusammenhang mit diesem Konflikt, wenn man sich ausschließlich auf die negativen Seiten einer Person konzentriert, kann man den Blick fürs große Ganze verlieren, was schade ist, wie ich finde. Wenn man dagegen auch das Positive im Menschen sehen kann (ohne deshalb das Fehlverhalten zu entschuldigen), besteht die Chance auf, zumindest, eine Beilegung eines Konflikts.

[ATB - Racing]

Auch finde ich es auch ehrlicherweise nicht tragbar, dass derartiges Verhalten hier darüber legitimiert wird, dass sich die Person ja auf anderer Ebene engagiert und Rennen erstellt. Ich persönlich möchte gar kein Rennen fahren, dass von jemandem erstellt wurde, der an anderer Stelle Anderen gern den Spaß verdirbt.

Hi Elmo,
Ich wollte noch hierauf antworten, weil du eventuell mich meinst. Ich habe nichts legitimiert und als ich noch FPC Mitglied war, habe ich Beleidigungen stets sehr streng gehandhabt. Ich habe hier lediglich darauf hingewiesen dass Personen i.d.R. Schwächen und Stärken haben. Im Zusammenhang mit diesem Konflikt, wenn man sich ausschließlich auf die negativen Seiten einer Person konzentriert, kann man den Blick fürs große Ganze verlieren, was schade ist, wie ich finde. Wenn man dagegen auch das Positive im Menschen sehen kann (ohne deshalb das Fehlverhalten zu entschuldigen), besteht die Chance auf, zumindest, eine Beilegung eines Konflikts.

Kann man das anpinnen und übersetzen und auch anpinnen?

[Elmo-Tours]

Hey Gipfel,

Danke für deine Antwort und deine Sicht. Vorangestellt: Meine Kritik richtet sich gegen die Sache, nicht gegen dich als Person. Bedeutet, ich freue mich darauf, bald mal mit dir im gleichen Feld zu landen unter hoffentlich entspannteren Vorzeichen.

Ich verstehe inhaltlich auch, wo du herkommst und teile deine Sichtweise grundlegend. Menschen sind nicht eindimensional. Ich möchte aber auch darauf hinweisen, dass über die Fokussierung "aufs große Ganze" dann eben genau doch Fehlverhalten legitimiert wird. Das ist eben leider genau der Mechanismus, der damit zwangsläufig einhergeht. Und das finde ich bei bestimmten Formen von Fehlverhalten auch in Ordnung aber nicht bei der Härte der Beleidigungen und Abwertungen, die hier getätigt wurden und ja für alle einsehbar im Forum dokumentiert sind.

Besonders problematisch wird das, wenn es zu einer Art Güterabwägung kommt, also der Frage, ob dieses Fehlverhalten gravierend genug war, um die positiven Punkte (wie eben Engagement im Racedesign) zu überschatten und eine Strafe bzw. einen Ausschluss zu begründen. Da kann ich persönlich - als jmd. der nicht dabei war, und so geht es ja wrsl. oft auch den 5 FPC-Mitgliedern - nur das beurteilen, was ins Forum getragen wird. Deswegen ist es so problematisch, wenn sich Opfer von Beleidigungen dann noch Unverständnis, Häme oder der Aufforderung sich zu erklären, warum sie sich beleidigt fühlen, ausgesetzt sehen. Denn dann ist nichtmehr nur der Rennchat toxisch, sondern auch der Ort, an dem mir vermeintlich geholfen werden soll, also überlege ich mir eben zweimal, ob ich überhaupt was melde.

Was ich nicht verstehe ist: nach all den schlimmen Beleidigungen in der Vergangenheit - für die es ja offenbar auch schonmal eine Strafe gab? - Warum geht damit kein Ultimatum einher. Denn wenn jemand so oft negativ auffällt, dann kann ich ja großerherzig sein und das 'große Ganze' berücksichtigen und zu dem Urteil kommen: Strafe aber kein Ausschluss. Aber ich verstehe nicht, warum die Strafe nicht zur Bewährung ausgesetzt wurde. Also warum gibt es keine Bedingung, dass sollte er auch nur ein einziges weiteres Mal mit Beleidigungen auffallen, das Maß voll ist und der Acc endgültig gesperrt wird. Warum wurde hierauf verzichtet? Gelbe Karte, rote Karte, raus - um im Sportjargon zu bleiben.

Klar, man kann sich einen neuen Acc machen aber auch das fällt doch irgendwann auf (gleiche IP, gleiches Verhalten, etc...) und dann noch einen und ne Weile wird er vll. noch trollen aber irgendwann gibt sich das doch in aller Regel auch. Besser als die Beleidigten zu vergraulen oder?

Herzliche Grüße,
Elmo

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Google-Translator:

Hey Gipfel,

thanks for your reply and your perspective. First off: My criticism is directed at the issue itself, not at you personally. This means I look forward to race with you again soon, hopefully under more relaxed circumstances.

I understand your point of view and fundamentally agree with your perspective. People aren't one-dimensional. However, I also want to point out that focusing "on the big picture" can actually legitimize misconduct. Unfortunately, that's precisely the mechanism that inevitably accompanies it. And I find that acceptable for certain types of misconduct, but not for the harshness of the insults and put-downs that have been made here, which are documented for everyone to see in the forum.

This becomes particularly problematic when it comes to a kind of cost-benefit analysis, i.e., the question of whether this misconduct was serious enough to overshadow the positive aspects (such as the commitment to race design) and justify a penalty or exclusion. Personally, as someone who wasn't there — and I suspect that's often the case for the five FPC members as well — I can only judge what's reported in the forum. That's why it's so problematic when victims of insults are then subjected to incomprehension, mockery, or demands to explain why they feel insulted. Because then it's not just the race chat that's toxic, but also the place where I'm supposed to get help, so I think twice about reporting anything at all.

What I don't understand is: after all the terrible insults in the past — for which there was apparently already a penalty? — why isn't there an ultimatum? Because if someone is so frequently disruptive, I can be lenient and consider the bigger picture and come to the conclusion: penalty, but not expulsion. But I don't understand why the penalty wasn't suspended. So why isn't there a condition that if he engages in insults even once more, that's the last straw and his account is permanently banned? Why wasn't this implemented? Yellow card, red card, out – to use a sports analogy.

Sure, he could create a new account, but that would eventually be noticed too (same IP address, same behavior, etc.). Then he'd create another one, and he might troll for a while, but usually, that stops eventually. Better than alienating the people he's insulting, right?

Best regards,
Elmo

[Elmo-Tours]

Zudem hätte es sicher auch geholfen, wenn das FPC seine Entscheidung in dem Start-Post hier begründet hätte.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Furthermore, it would certainly have helped if the FPC had explained its decision in the initial post here.

[olmania]

After reviewing Taka’s behaviour over an extended period and evaluating multiple reports, the FPC has decided not to issue a fine or ban at this time.

We acknowledge that Taka’s conduct has significantly improved in recent months. However, he remains under observation, and any future deterioration in his behaviour towards other teams may result in disciplinary action.

We are aware that some teams may not be satisfied with this decision. Nevertheless, we ask all parties to refrain from further escalating the situation in the future.

At the same time, we encourage everyone to continue reporting any future incidents so that we can respond quickly if there is any deterioration in behaviour.

Hard to believe my eyes when I connect and read that.

And in many ways :

- giving an answer for all cases in a new thread, why not; but a first I think. Not even a word in the original thread, I could have never seen it if I did not make the effort to connect and look around again.
- not fining and/or banning the user even after multiple proofs and cases against him. He did so many bad things to the players, the game, not a single consequence for him. Any team doing a simple rule-breaking action (let's say a team attack or a clear bad insult in the chat), gets fined quite easily and fast (which is a good thing !), but taka's doing his bad stuff for years means no action taken and no consequences for him. A bit hard to swallow and understand.

The main reason you mentionned is "Taka’s conduct has significantly improved in recent months" :
- for months/years before, the FPC was not active enough or juste able to take actions against taka. Many cases/threads were not opened here, for reasons mentioned earlier in other threads (not many managers are active on forum, many do/did not expect FPC to take action against such behaviors and many just left in anger or without a word, etc.). And we can probably dig and find some open cases with no penalty taken, even repeatedly. Anyway, even if not all cases were opened every time it was possible against him because of the mentionned reasons above, all members of FPC and very active players of the game are totally aware of his daily behaviors in game chats for months/years. Using his "recent behavior" as an argument means you use your general knowledge and observation of the game on a daily basis; why not using the same observation/knowledge to take into consideration all the bad behavior of the past ?
As of now it became impossible to not take action and into consideration all the recent threads against taka, it was decided to judge him for all of his actions, and not one after the other (why not, but again, it's differently treated as many other cases in the past).
- but mainly : how a better behavior erases what he did in the past ? I was not much around in the last 3 months, so I can't really tell and give my opinion about your assumption of his better behavior. But still, since when that is an excuse for what he did before ? And since when the FPC works like that ?
=> I know RSF is not real life; but the FPC works in a way that seems quite close to justice courts in most of the countries around here. Let's say someone does something bad in life, when he gets judged in court, does he get less punished by the justice even if he did nothing wrong recently ? Usually no. He even often gets more punished if there is an history and repetition of bad behaviors from the past. And can get a lighter penalty with good defence and no previous cases of bad things done.
The consequences of taka's acts remains as of today : less active players, people who felt bad because of his behavior, people who got mad, and so on. And he did it reapeatdly, on a daily basis sometimes. With saying that his recent better behavior should not get him a penaly/ban, you mean that there are no consequences of his previous behaviors and actions (I understand it like that at least). Also you do not take into consideration the harmth he did to individuals and the game itself. That is really hard to understand and support.
=> That's the first time I see such "argument/justification" from the FPC. Usually someone gets away from a penalty and stays under the FPC watch when it's a light issue, and the first time it happens, no ?
Should I remind that in the past the FPC was able sometimes to judge cases that were 2-3 years old in the game. And still judge these cases without taking consideration of what happened in between (good behaviors and so on). And still judge these cases even if nothing was fresh/recent in everbody's minds. How a "better behavior from the recent months" is a reason to not take action and not judge it like other old(er) cases ?
Since when "a better behavior" is good enough to get away from breaking the rules ?

For more transparency, would be good to know :
Did taka even had a FPC in game conservation open for each of the cases opened against him ? And each case was discussed and treated properly ?
Hopefully, not at all threads decisions and this judgement came out of a general conversation between FPC members ?
Why deciding to not take into consideration his previous actions and consequences to his behaviors as usually done by the FPC ? and consider that his better behavior was enough to not give him any ban/penalty ?

To what extent to FPC members consider that part of the fairplay rules important and how it did not apply to all Taka's cases ?

Direct and obvious insults, offensive language or harmful/offensive behavior will be sanctioned, including, but not limited to:

Bullying or harassment of other players without insulting them directly, e.g. by sending repeated threats, pejorative labels, hate speech, sexual remarks, or posting false statements as facts, aimed at discrediting or humiliating a targeted player;

And finally, as a matter of today, I wanted to race this afternoon (would have been my 4th race in 2 months or so); taka is registered, so I withdraw from the race, of course. I will not come back to the game on a regular basis at all; and probably be gone for good when my team gets too old to enjoy a race here and there.

I wish good luck for the ones who are still playing on a daily basis and will have taka and similar individuals not punished for their behaviors, ruining their fun in the game, and also harming the community and attractiveness of RSF.

[Falcor CC]

Hi OL,

Just want to elaborate limitedly from a personal perspective.
As for me, I've only been a part of FPC for less than a year and part of the game for a little over a year. During that time, while there have been numerous threads about Taka, all of these had cases cases opened and examined for them. When we deemed a fine was needed, he got one. Judging the combination of cases is of course way harder and an even bigger gray zone than a singular case usually already is. Behavioral cases aren't black and white (compared to team attacks etc.), and while people have spoken up against the decision when Taka didn't get a fine, other people have also spoken up against the decision when he did get a fine. What I'm trying to say is, if he deserved a fine for a singular case, he got one. Judging the ensemble of past cases is very hard to do from an FPC perspective because it is so subjective.

From a very personal perspective, completely seperate from my role as an FPC member, I would like to ask some managers here a question: would you find the Taka 'insults' as offensive if someone else said it? Just my opionion, but I feel like if another manager said what Taka said, there wouldn't be a case or even bad blood between managers. Just an example, but if you called Schappy a troll instead, I am fairly certain that there would be no forum thread opened. Also just a personal counterargument: some of the Anti-Taka managers, to call them that, are no saints themselves, and only make it worse by either provoking him back in some way or retaliate in another way.

Last year around this time I was called a 'retard' in this game by a currently inactive manager, which I do find incredibly offensive. Just a few days ago I was told to 'seek help' by another manager. I just decide that an online troll saying something like that just completely unaffects me.