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Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:39 am

Tour is over, but we're still in France? What?! Ah, Alsace taken on the way home. Although some riders went straight home and some are interested to see what happens there. Thus, the line-up changed a bit:

x1 Stefano Benni, stays in France
x2 Henri Bienvenu, new in France
x3 Niels Hörnö, stays in France
x4 Stefan "King" Küng, stays in France
x5 Jean Ollé Ollé, keeps smiling in France
x6 Pit Schlechter, stays in France
x7 Arni Steinsson, new in France
x8 Gaudenz "Cronos" Taverna, another stage in France
x9 Walter "WaWa" Walch, new in France
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Vuvuzela » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:13 am

Last will be first! :mrgreen:

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:21 am

Favorite check:

General classement:

***** Joaquim Chicot (ChartreuseCycle)
**** Stefano Carro (Saffunzanos)
*** a climber (DiRoma, Ottavo, Haqq, or similar)
** a classic rider with TT (Breukink, Cervantes, or similar)
* a surprise rider

Points classement:

*** Hushovd (LENNAO TREK)
** Almodovar (Alkworld
* another rider(/sprinter)

Mountain classement:

*** the one who wants it
** another rider
* a surprise rider

Team classement:

*** ChartreuseCycle
** El Bergo
* Vuvuzela
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Alkworld » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:23 am

The rest of Team Alkworld also wants to ride a tour in France, so here they are:
1) Pedro Almodovar - might make a nice movie about the Alsace
2) Facundo Cabral - looking out for windmills
3) Joaquin Camacho - old and fast
4) Jorge CarreraAndrade - lots of recent experience in France
5) Miguel Cervantes - fighting the windmills Facundo finds for him
6) Esteban Echevarria - was preparing for a laid back race, will be punished with tempo after dropping out today
7) Juan Montalvo - could be successful, if it wouldn't be for all the other captains
8) Bernardo OHiggins - young and fast
9) Antonio Narino - used to making tempo in France already

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:30 am

Alma's boys still remain in France, but they change a lot in race approach

cheap team (only 400k per race), no really target except stagehunting or "red ambitions".

This are the "Choosen nine"

Michael Brathwaite (trying a podium on the TT)
Thomas Brathwaite (the GC Guy... hope in a top 40)
John Brathwaite (tired after tour, a poor flat escape guy)
Reza Shah (he retired on 17th stage of the tour)
Mohammad "Momo" Mossadeq (first tour this season)
Heinz Keller (first tour this season and last career tour)
Ayrton SennaDaSilva (after 2nd place for red on TdF, he wants to reach 1st place at Alsace)
Roland Ratzenberger (another Newbie this season)
Abel Muzorewa(another flat escape guy)



After the TTT we contain the gap, only 14'', to Charteuse Cycle, that seems the real favo of the race.

After tomorrow we can have some favocheck in FL style

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by LENNAO » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:31 am

1 Joaquin Beloki - the younger brother of Joseba - will do it aswell as his older brother in his career
2 Andy Beck - helper for Beloki - young climber from Luxembourg
3 Manuel Astarloza - Young classic - will be "Edelhelfer" in his career
4 Alvertos Ilias - helper for TTTs and downhill
5 Milos Krsnic - my flat rider - my riders dont train flat that much so he is the puller vor hushovd in sprints
6 Adrian Lewis - same as Milos - only with good downhill skills
7 Maja Milosevic - working bee - ever in tempo ^^
8 Grischa Uhrmann - futural flat classic - helper in france
9 Torvald Hushovd - Sprinter - Animal - Hero - he wants to fight for green

To the favo check:
I think Almodovar is as strong as Husvod in this tour.
Furthermore i think that TT classics are much stronger than climbers because TT is so overrated and the gaps are lil but too big - so Hubers are too much overpowered for GTs or Leupolds for smaller tours ;)

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by goikiri » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:38 am

After a bad Tour of France, in Hueso the changes are coming. First race of "this era" is Alsace and this is the team:

71- Ignas Konovalavus: the leader in the mountains
72- Octav Optimus: the assistant of Ignas. New in the team.
73- Carlos Machin: Good for hilly races. New in the team.
74- Luigi Zappaterra: Fighter rider in hilly races. New in the team.
75- Sergio Pirata: The croner man
76- Mikel Ugartemendia: Good for escapes
77- Angel De Las Heras: Young rider. New in the team.
78- Hugues Grondin: Good sprinter in small groups
79- Juanjo Verdu: He has 21 years. Searching the rol in the team. New in the team.

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Alkworld » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:41 am

team fl wrote:Favorite check:

General classement:

***** Joaquim Chicot (ChartreuseCycle)
**** Stefano Carro (Saffunzanos)
*** a climber (DiRoma, Ottavo, Haqq, or similar)
** a classic rider with TT (Breukink, Cervantes, or similar)
* a surprise rider
I would swap the climbers with the classic riders, as the first mountain stage and the TT are half stages on the same day :-) And at least Cervantes and Breukink each have a good helper to save them some energy on the 1st half stage. The Hubers are still extremely hard to beat however.

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Ronson » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:03 am

Hi FL,

habe dich doch 13.00 gesehen und mich schon gefreut mal wieder mit dir zu fahren :(
Na ja, ich werde 1300 starten und etwas Geld verbrennen :mrgreen:

lg
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:06 am

Ronson wrote:Hi FL,

habe dich doch 13.00 gesehen und mich schon gefreut mal wieder mit dir zu fahren :(
Na ja, ich werde 1300 starten und etwas Geld verbrennen :mrgreen:

lg
13h könnte ich am WE nicht, inkl. Halbetappen immerhin drei Etappen. Zwar ginge es unter der Woche am Nachmittag besser, aber 9h auch möglich, deshalb der Umschwung.
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by ONCE-Team » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:08 am

Once-Team searched for a little nice tour after a hard tour de france. Alsace seems to be very interesting.
Here is the line-up:

Erik Breukink, is only here to meet his friend cervantes :D
Diego Diaz, wants to help Erik; but is weak of a hard tour
Urszula Radwanska, the women in the team; have to cook for the whole team :lol:
Jörg Jaksche, likes to go in groups
Perter Wrolich, a nice waterboy with less reg
Uwe Uhrmacher, the daddy of the team and an important helper
Fjodor Michajlowitsch, likes to ride in the wind when its flat
Heinrich Hübner, young and wants to be come a downhill-specialist
Muchtar Auesow, comes from Borats village in kasachstan ;)

Hope for a nice interesting tour.
Once-Team has no special target, yet. Only to have fun and dont loose money :)
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by curvasud » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:13 pm

Perfect race for confirmation that the search after a CARRERA-ITALIA AT TOUR DE FRANCE excellent.
DIROMA will try to enter 10 in the standings even if the 17 km uphill time trial and certainly not very hard not help him,
BOSIO Rising Star ITALIAN cycling, try as usual to handle the race. :idea: :idea:
COSTA after the miracle of Paris, will placings but beware ... :lol:
BELLINGHIERI new purchase at the time that will stand for the team.
COOPER about to give up cycling this will be her last race, after a catastrophic tdf will try to stay in groups
PRATEVELLIC number if it does manage to stay inthe group
MARTELLATA young man who can do little to grow
PERTUGIO true spiritual leader of the carrera will point to the final classification :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
TANASKOVIC new purchase too good wingman is waning.
Target team will fight for a jersey thing yet again failed thus far, and 1 stage win would
a tour de alsace great for me,
TOMORROW STARTS THE WAR HAS ALL GOOD RACE
SQUADRA:CARRERA-ITALIA
12 VITTORIE DI TAPPA
2 VITTORIE DI GIRO
4 GRAN PREMIO DELLA MONTAGNA
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:57 am

Quite intense race. In the end, it was the expected sprint royal with Hushovd from LENNAO as the winner. During the stage, the little group grabbed the money on the road while El Bergo tried to make the race fast, for whatever he thought it would help him. But rumour has it that Alkworld pays him money to do so. Anyway, most classements are still open, Hushoved now in Yellow. Cervantes could gain some bonus seconds at the two last sprints before the finish line. And then this stupiud Almodovar hangs on Ollé Ollé. What a sausage! Sure he can't win like that. Pure anti-FL. Ever the same! Tomorrow I ride through a tunnel with Arni and Pit...
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Alkworld » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:27 pm

team fl wrote:Quite intense race. In the end, it was the expected sprint royal with Hushovd from LENNAO as the winner. During the stage, the little group grabbed the money on the road while El Bergo tried to make the race fast, for whatever he thought it would help him. But rumour has it that Alkworld pays him money to do so. Anyway, most classements are still open, Hushoved now in Yellow. Cervantes could gain some bonus seconds at the two last sprints before the finish line. And then this stupiud Almodovar hangs on Ollé Ollé. What a sausage! Sure he can't win like that. Pure anti-FL. Ever the same! Tomorrow I ride through a tunnel with Arni and Pit...
All the high tempo from my side in the beginning was actually for Cervantes. I thought El Bergo had the same plan, but he didn't execute it in the end. The sprint on the finish line was the usual lottery, this time with Hushovd as the lucky winner. However Pedro won't give up and will try again. But tomorrow we can first enjoy a possibly interesting stage with two steep hills in the first half and a still hilly second half.

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:34 pm

Nothing interesting by Almaviva in this stage... the designed riders fails to get into the "first hour escape", Heinz try (and fail) to steal one of the last intermediate sprints... Luckily some position gained in the sprint in the end that cut the money loss (main target for the tour). Tomorrow some other targets can be reached... The two hills meanings that there are mountainpoint in the stage... Ayrton likes it but... probably Thomas needs an helper...
let's see...

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by LENNAO » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:24 pm

Hushovd is happy about winning the first stage and the yellow jersey for at least one day.
Tomorrow he knows that it will be harder, because the team isnt really specialized for hilly stages. But we will try our best.
More important for the team will be the 3rd stage and the training at friday, where Beloki has to train well to get a chance for a good GC position.

MfG LENNAO

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:52 am

Every time he fucks it up, I want to slap Ollé Ollé straight in his face. But every time I go and see him to do so, he turns around and... smiles!!! I just can't be angry anymore on a human being with such a smile.. Grrr... Otherwise I woud have sold him already. He will be my ruin, I can feel it, but I can't do something about it.

In the meantime, GW to ONCE and Almavivitalia to their success. First one the stage and second got the yellow jersey. To cover great Takashi design! Pfff... Thus, I take back my GW for Alma.
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:25 am

Almost a stagewin for Alma Guys. For a Miscommunication between Team Manager & Heinz, Abel think that he should wait his "escape team fellow" and in the exactly moment his rival sprints.. so he lost the stage but for sure he gain the yellow...

Tomorrow he can't work for defend it due of his low energy, and because after a MS the leader can change, but now alma's are call at working

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Alkworld » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:41 am

Hm, another intense race today with a surprising result. When the decisive group attacked, I wasn't interested in chasing it for three reasons,
1) GC would have been danger
2) I didn't expect Pedro and Miguel to be that lucky in the sprint
3) I was hoping for the chance to attack in the end, which the small gap and El Bergo (our "Hans-Dampf-in-allen-Gassen" ^^) made impossible after all
Seeing the result now of course makes it obvious that my choices were wrong ;-)

PS: The first non-native German speaker in our race, who finds the explanation of "Hans-Dampf-in-allen-Gassen" will get 5km of free Narino tempo.

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:47 am

I am not a native "German" speaker. My native language is High Alemannic. Do I count?
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:56 am

i don't speak german but some translation may be

Iohannes fac totum, or better, in english, "Jack of all trades, master of none" (i don't want 5km of narino tempo in group, only in escape^^)

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by Alkworld » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:58 am

team fl wrote:I am not a native "German" speaker. My native language is High Alemannic. Do I count?
Nice try ;) But you still get Narino's tempo, if you can explain it to him in Castilian.

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:00 pm

Alkworld wrote:
team fl wrote:I am not a native "German" speaker. My native language is High Alemannic. Do I count?
Nice try ;) But you still get Narino's tempo, if you can explain it to him in Castilian.
Does it have to be grammatically correct?
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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by team fl » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:01 pm

I think Alma is the winner, although I have some commets on his answer.
AlmavivaItalia wrote:i don't speak german but some translation may be

Iohannes fac totum, or better, in english, "Jack of all trades, master of none" (i don't want 5km of narino tempo in group, only in escape^^)
The funny thing here is, that almost all translation sited stage "Jack of all trades, master of none" as the translation. But in my opinion this not completely correct if you use "Hans-Dampf-in-allen-Gassen" in the way Alkworld writes about El Bergo. The "Jack of all trades" is somehow a generalist that is able to do everything good but not very good (it's about skills), but the "Hans Dampf in allen Gassen" with this context explains a person that is interfering everywhere but only causing trouble without any success (it's about activity).
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.

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Re: Alsace 9h

Post by AlmavivaItalia » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:05 pm

ok, i can use the italian version

Italian: Esperto di tutto, maestro in niente ("Expert of everything, master of none").


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