May 2011

[Pirkio]

h24 is better think 12 - 15 teams are on it

[NoPikouze]

Talking about times, I dont understand/like that there is always such a big gap in the middle of the day. 10h-nothing-15h... Perhaps the times are less popular, then okay... Just wondering, actually

[Robyklebt]

Other topic:

26.04: Flat sprint race, 138 Km, no difficulty, 0
28.04: Flat sprint race, 141 Km, max 5 early in the race.
29.04: Flat sprint race, 147 Km, no difficulty 0
03.04: Flat sprint race, 175 Km, no difficulty, 0
05.04: Flat sprint race, 137 Km, no difficulty, 0
06.04: Challenging sprint race, 174 Km. many climbs

All fantasy race, ignored the real races.

A huge step backward IMO. Back to January 09 or whenever it was that you felt last time that the poor sprinters don't get enough.

A horrible horrible horrible calendar.

1
6 sprint races in 11 days is just too much. 3 days taken by real races (one a likely sprint too, but irrelevant) so it's actually 6 sprint races in 8 days. BAD!

2
6 sprint races, 5 of them the mindless short no difficulty type. VERY BAD.
Give us some a bit more interesting ones, the 5-1 ratio is terrible, should be at least 50-50%

3
26 Sprint +TT:
27 hilly
28 Sprint+ HC
29 Sprint
30-2 busy with real stuff
03: Sprint and hilly pavé
04: Hilly
05: Sprint and HC
06: Sprint

Each time there is something other than either a predicted sprint or a classic race there is automatically a sprint race programmed too? Forget that. Let's not further promote the boring ultra-specialization. A Pavé race? Either race that, or don't. A HC race? The same. It makes the races more interesting if there are different interests too. TT or TTT? Stop trying giving everybody everything. There are enough sprints around even without the hardcorse sprinting calendar of the last days.

[lesossies]

I remarked it too yesterday as I programmed the last race.

There were a lot of sprint races the last days, maybe the maximum limit but OK, it was a hard time for sprinter during the classics and the Giro will not be very fine for them.

We now need some interesting races between Dunkerke and California.

[Pirkio]

Why not my super fantasy 8.000 meters mountain?

[auxilium torino]

Are other team intrested in a Giro at midnight?
Is a good and intresting test for the future!

[Zentaron]

Giro? No, because no Giro for my team. Midnight races in general? Depends on a female being in my life.^^ But in general? Yes.

[auxilium torino]

Giro? No, because no Giro for my team. Midnight races in general? Depends on a female being in my life.^^ But in general? Yes.

why not, BSE!
wird bestimmt lustig, gibt mehrere etappe für sprinter(ok, nicht viele), und kannst du spass haben, wir gehen auch um spass zu haben, und von uns interessenten gibt bis jetzt keine ubermachtiges team

[Zentaron]

Gibt so gut wie keine Etappen für Sprinter. 4 oder so sind es. 4 in 23 Tagen? Na vielen Dank. Dazu ist mein Team zu teuer.^^
Außerdem fahre ich jetzt Dunkerke, damit Giro eh gestorben.

[Rockstar Inc]

Giro at midnight isn't interesting for me...but some other tours, just for a test..seems good

[Robyklebt]

Ah, look, at Franconia, I thought your enlightened ass theory was not too comment on things that concern others but not you when it comes to the calendar? Vuelta 09...

For the record, don't care if there is a 24h edition.

But don't sell it as a useful test, it's not, 22 - 24 isn't a useful test for anything, it will just split it... then if we have 15-8 it doesn't mean that 24h is a failure. A real test would be 21-24. But we won't have that, as far as I understood it, that's what's being discussed. So no,it's not a useful test.

Aux designed it would have deserved to be able to participate, get enough guys to have it at 24, or leso thinks it makes sense, then make it.

But it's not a test for anything.

[Rockstar Inc]

i never said this sentence, i said you are poking me because i "make a fass auf" only when it's my race...it's not my way to shout only then...

the second part: of course mr. singe is right, 22-24 would be nonsense....20-24 or 21-24 would be better

[Robyklebt]

Talking about times, I dont understand/like that there is always such a big gap in the middle of the day. 10h-nothing-15h... Perhaps the times are less popular, then okay... Just wondering, actually

Stop wondering.

14/15/16 will stay fix. Point, discussion over, we already got cheated out of a GT once, not going to happen again.
GTs and cat 5 tours. They get offered at one of those time.

You want to try 13-15? ok.. 13-16 ok, 13-14 ok. Just what won't happen is whining about a weak afternoon and then cut it once again.

I'm still waiting for a GT that isn't offered in the morning, in the early evening, in the evening and the late evening of course.

TdF 13-16-19-21-23 sounds good to me. 10-12-14-17-20 as well. 10-12-16-21-23? Excellent. 9-12-14-18-23 too.

But... none of you ASSHOLES will touch the afternoon. Not again.

[RohrheimRadler]

With all those discussion I start designing Lorraine, with a new job, my time for designing has been reduced, just a note for further months.

[olmania]

with a new job, my time for designing has been reduced, just a note for further months.

I should be able to design more after my exams.
Dauphiné, TDF, l'Ain, Eneco, and others tours for the summer.

[Pirkio]

with a new job, my time for designing has been reduced, just a note for further months.

I should be able to design more after my exams.
Dauphiné, TDF, l'Ain, Eneco, and others tours for the summer.

Little child

[auxilium torino]

we have enough Tour , we need more one day race, thx

[olmania]

we have enough Tour , we need more one day race, thx

The tours quoted, are reals tours. Need to be designed.

[auxilium torino]

lorient is a 2.1...in this season not very important, and at the same time with california...

[olmania]

lorient is a 2.1...in this season not very important, and at the same time with california...

Lorient ?

[auxilium torino]

Upssss! Lorraine

[RohrheimRadler]

it's in the planned calendar, and for those going to Picardie, can't go to California, so Lorraine is kind of the choice for those choosing Picardie.

[lesossies]

Nach Absprache mit Aux, haben wir uns entschlossen eine 24h Version des Giros zu starten.

[Quick]

Aber cancel die bitte, wenn nicht mind 10teams(sprich 100% prämien und punkte) zusammenkommen. Alles andere wäre für eine GT eine farce.

[Robyklebt]

No, only cancel after talking with the participants. If they all say, we don't want it like that, then ok. If they say I couldhave started at 22 but preferred here... cancel and fuck them? No. Yes, happened to you, no need to support it for others. Just do like me, gloat afterwords if it hit teams that weren't on your side when it happened to you.