Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

[Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team]

I invite you to join the committee. When we had the wave of new players, we tried to prove the names of thousands of new riders. Maybe not every decision is correct, but we try our best in a free(!) game.

[Schnuggeritos]

First of all, any feedback regarding unrealistic or false names that we have approved as NC triggers a thought process for all of us. Some names appear plausible when we carry out our checks. Adolfo and Meloni are both real names – Adolfo as a first name and Meloni as a surname. It is the combination of the two that is problematic, as we do not condone right-wing or misanthropic behaviour in general.

Also mistakes done in other cases don't give you the right to have a passport for unreal and/or unrealistic named riders.

We do our best to have the names as realistic as it possible can be. We can't be 100% right but as mentioned one mistake does not give the right to give everyone a go.

You don’t know anyone with two names that preferes the second? I have a friend called Giuseppe Alessio, everyone knows him as Alessio. What’s your problem with that?

Of course Alessio is fine. I think we have to point out again that Petrov is no first name like Guiseppe or Alessio but a last name with the meaning of "son of Peter". So the either Miroslav Barnyashev or Miroslav Petrov or Miroslav PetrovBarnyashev - best option to be as realistic and close to the real person.

[Yamaka Corse]

Last things before I just close the forum for a while:

- Calling an Italian "Mobster" is a "funny thing" that will make me leave the forum for a while. Expecially when everyone else of the same "lobby" just pass by on the thing.

- I understand we have different way to use names and surnames at this points. After many (not everyone) told me the Junior has to go in the surname spot, while here Junior is just a second name or as "Junior Messias" a first.

-I bet someone would have problems with PetrovBarnyashev surname too and would say that "Petrov isn't a Surname but a second name" but I will not going to check it. Maybe Alkword or some admins can have a test I have played honestly to buy that guy and have been punished again. (and don't care since I've lost interess in argue with this comittee after the "Mobster" thing)

-You know game doesn't accept spaces right? Since I have to chose one name between Miroslav and Petrov I prefered Petrov. No one should be punished for a chose done due to the game limit.

- You seems so oldminded to me. In a world where there are people like the examples I've already posted, or a girl called "Chanel Totti" (you would remove nationality there because "Chanel" isn't a traditional Italian name right?)

- Why seems you block names only when nationality with few racers are involved?
You allowed 2 months ago a name banned by law A member of NC just admitted

It is the combination of the two that is problematic

so the thing is evident not only banned by law but also the real reason the Committe has to exist (at least that was our duty 15 years ago, I don't know if you have changed yours now)
But since the ones I posted are Italian racers you seems to don't care, there are already 200+
When it is a Bulgarian one let's remove it faster than light, that's a second name not a first!
Can I say It's suspicious at least?

-My opinion is that Unrealistic means Giro D'italia, Sheep Dog, Frnc Kqraom. Banned ones should be Benedikt Hitler, Mao Jong Un.
Than every name in between should be considered in all the possible form and thinking on every technical issue. Not just strict one.
At least that how we did 15 years ago and how real world works. My great-grandfather is English, my granmother name is Elena Sidney she's never went outside Italy. Would be here name accepted with Italian nationality? No.
You should just moderate names that can hurt someone or that are impossible not ones that google IA's doens't accept

Bye.

[Weezel]

I see no argument, why Petrov should be allowed as a real first name.
This is the only point now. Bring good arguments and we can talk about everything.
And don't blame the comitee, blame yourself for not taking Miroslav as first name.

[Servicio Médico]

- I understand we have different way to use names and surnames at this points. After many (not everyone) told me the Junior has to go in the surname spot, while here Junior is just a second name or as "Junior Messias" a first.

i assume its directed at our conversation about your LielenJr so i briefly comment on this again.
You mix up 2 different things here. You didnt use the name Junior you used the generational suffix Junior...written as Jr. which indeed has to be on the Surname. If you use the name Junior thats totally different. Junior can be a first name...but then its written Junior not Jr...maybe it can be a Surname too idk at the moment. But thats not how you used it..you used the Jr. to differentiate between him and the guy with the same name you had years ago. And in that case it has to be Lielen ZappaJr like i said before. If you would have written LielenJunior Zappa it would have been 2 first names. But Jr. is not a name..so the suffix rule applies.

[Servicio Médico]

Last things before I just close the forum for a while:

-I bet someone would have problems with PetrovBarnyashev surname too and would say that "Petrov isn't a Surname but a second name" but I will not going to check it. Maybe Alkword or some admins can have a test I have played honestly to buy that guy and have been punished again. (and don't care since I've lost interess in argue with this comittee after the "Mobster" thing)

-You know game doesn't accept spaces right? Since I have to chose one name between Miroslav and Petrov I prefered Petrov. No one should be punished for a chose done due to the game limit.

this is not about someone having a problem its about naming conventions
in c4f you could have used first name: Miroslav last name: Petrov; first name: Miroslav last name: Barnyashev or first name: Miroslav last name: PetrovBarnyashev. But in all cases the only option as first name would have been Miroslav. the surname and the patronymic (Petrov) has to go in the last name column.
we often have managers that switch frist and last names or write the surname all in capital letters. they all get trotteled and not because these are wrong names in general
So in the future if youre not sure about how to use a specific name just ask beforehand. I think everyone could have told you how to use mr Barnyashev in c4f and this problem could have been avoided.

btw the missing space in c4f is not a problem at all if you look at other riders. We have a lot of guys with multiple First and Surnames (unfortunately )