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Re: April 2026

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Apr 01, 2026 4:53 pm

All real races published until and including Scheldeprijs.

Will be on a business trip next week, so not sure if I find the time for Paris-Roubaix. If someone else can have a look, would be great.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Hansa » Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:48 pm

So coming back here for 2 discussions.

1st, trust your gut next time gip (i now checked again and you really changed all 3 monuments to 4 editions while only 1 team complained about 5 editions and multiple teams here said they like the preview as it is??). The evening is nearly always strong enough for 3 editions also on weekends as they are less effected by the lower player base on weekends than morning/afternoon. I also would prefer an 7-8 team monument edition over a field 2 monument edition.
I also think we can nearly always offer 5 editions with nothing parallel.

2nd discussion offering div 5-6 races parallel to important races.

Today we saw a total of 6 div 5-6 teams riding 4 of them have 600+ races and 3 of them 1000+ races and probably dont need learning editions.

So i stay with my statement:
Hansa wrote:
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and what kind of rule makes sense with the current number of active teams per division?
None probably
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Re: April 2026

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:55 pm

Hansa wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:48 pm
1st, trust your gut next time gip .
In the sprint or in the calendar? :D Overthinking both perhaps.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Hansa » Sun Apr 05, 2026 10:10 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:55 pm
Hansa wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:48 pm
1st, trust your gut next time gip .
In the sprint or in the calendar? :D Overthinking both perhaps.
The calender, just some numbers here:

In the 5 races this month till today the evening had

41 teams (on 2 edition with a split)
33 ( on 3 editions one of them midnight? One itt)
48 teams (on 3 editions)
33 teams (on 4 editions)
40 teams (on 3 editions with a split)

On dwaars door we had 6 fields in the end all with 10+ teams but the morning got 2 editions while the evening got only 2 too?

I actually dont like changing final pdfs and for Paris Roubaix might be to late. But maybe LBL deserves a 3rd evening edition.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Mon Apr 06, 2026 8:39 am

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2026 6:15 pm
2025
MSR: 70 teams (no split)
RVV: 62 teams (no split)
PR: 64 teams (no split)
LBL: 63 teams (no split)

2026
MSR: 73 teams (no split)
RVV: 64 teams (with 22h split)
PR: ?
LBL: ?
Updated above.

Decision for 4 editions was not unreasonable as you can see above but to avoid future splits, I am OK adding 20h for both PR and LBL, if that's preferred by evening teams.

By the way, I am not against splits per se, if it was mostly for newbies/comebackers in div5/6; but since we don't have many newbies (because we don't do enough for newbies) it currently affects mostly div3/4 teams which serves no real good purpose.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Bear » Mon Apr 06, 2026 10:33 am

I would be ok with the calender as it was finally planned. Also, I would like to ride earlier than 22h and since I ended up in group 2 in important races twice, I would be for sure happy to be in group 1. I just want to point out that we can be happy with so many teams in the evening. It's my own fault to end up in group two but at the same time I play this game for good races with the best possible competition.

BTW: Yesterdays group 2 was still a good races. But at the same time I would have loved to be in a group 1 with 22 online teams.

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Re: April 2026

Post by team fl » Tue Apr 07, 2026 1:36 pm

Information for this year's route for Paris-Roubaix:

Source: cyclingnews.com, cyclingflash.com, bikeradar.com, cyclingstage.com, procyclinguk.com

The 2026 Paris-Roubaix route features notable changes from 2025 designed to increase early race intensity. While starting in Compiègne and covering 258.3km, the 2026 route alters the early cobbled sectors near Briastre, creating a dense, rapid succession of sectors that mimic a 2024 layout. 30 cobble sectors in total.

Key 2026 Route Changes:
- Initial Cobbles: The route shifts eastward, creating an intense, rapid succession of the first four cobbled sectors with almost no asphalt between them.
- Sector 26 Addition: A rarely used sector featuring an 800-meter climb is added, with the aim of creating an early selection.
- Key Sectors Remain: Despite the modifications, classic sectors like the Trouée d'Arenberg, Mons-en-Pévèle, and Carrefour de l'Arbre remain in the final 165 km.
- Faster/Harder: The alterations are expected to create a more draining race, with potential to challenge the 2024 record-fast pace.

Profile at Procycligstats from La FlemmeRouge: https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/pa ... e-profiles

GPX-File from cyclingstage.com: https://cdn.cyclingstage.com/images/par ... /route.gpx
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Re: April 2026

Post by Hansa » Tue Apr 07, 2026 9:23 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2026 8:39 am

Decision for 4 editions was not unreasonable as you can see above but to avoid future splits, I am OK adding 20h for both PR and LBL, if that's preferred by evening teams.
Would keep Paris roubaix as it is now im the ingame calender, to short notice to change sth in my opinion, but try LBL with 5 editions as its enough time still.
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Re: April 2026

Post by ECS Cycling » Tue Apr 07, 2026 11:51 pm

I checked some coming one-day races, here's what I found:

Ronde van Limburg: Same route as last year
Classic Gran Besancon Doubs: Very similar route, one small circuit added in the beginning part of the race, some KOM/IS are different, but last year's route could be used
De Brabanste Pijl: Same route as last year
Tour du Jura Cycliste: Different route from last year
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Re: April 2026

Post by cataracs » Wed Apr 08, 2026 8:49 am

Why is it so important to avoid a Split?

Missing group1 of a monument because of not being in the two top divisions makes sense to me

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Re: April 2026

Post by drei.zehn » Wed Apr 08, 2026 2:20 pm

cataracs wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2026 8:49 am
Why is it so important to avoid a Split?

Missing group1 of a monument because of not being in the two top divisions makes sense to me
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Re: April 2026

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Apr 10, 2026 6:48 am

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2026 4:53 pm
All real races published until and including Scheldeprijs.

Will be on a business trip next week, so not sure if I find the time for Paris-Roubaix. If someone else can have a look, would be great.
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Tue Apr 07, 2026 1:36 pm
Information for this year's route for Paris-Roubaix:

Source: cyclingnews.com, cyclingflash.com, bikeradar.com, cyclingstage.com, procyclinguk.com

The 2026 Paris-Roubaix route features notable changes from 2025 designed to increase early race intensity. While starting in Compiègne and covering 258.3km, the 2026 route alters the early cobbled sectors near Briastre, creating a dense, rapid succession of sectors that mimic a 2024 layout. 30 cobble sectors in total.

Key 2026 Route Changes:
- Initial Cobbles: The route shifts eastward, creating an intense, rapid succession of the first four cobbled sectors with almost no asphalt between them.
- Sector 26 Addition: A rarely used sector featuring an 800-meter climb is added, with the aim of creating an early selection.
- Key Sectors Remain: Despite the modifications, classic sectors like the Trouée d'Arenberg, Mons-en-Pévèle, and Carrefour de l'Arbre remain in the final 165 km.
- Faster/Harder: The alterations are expected to create a more draining race, with potential to challenge the 2024 record-fast pace.

Profile at Procycligstats from La FlemmeRouge: https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/pa ... e-profiles

GPX-File from cyclingstage.com: https://cdn.cyclingstage.com/images/par ... /route.gpx
Does anybody have time to design it?
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Re: April 2026

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Fri Apr 10, 2026 7:20 pm

flockmastoR wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2026 6:48 am
Does anybody have time to design it?
Still on business trip. Can only do an emergency design tomorrow evening.

For info, that FL text (AI generated?) makes it sound much more design heavy than it is. Final 20 sectors are identical. Only first 10 sectors need to be redesigned.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Pokemon Club » Fri Apr 10, 2026 9:55 pm

If no one has time to design seems better to put 2025 version, maybe some won't have the time to sign it if we wait too much

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Re: April 2026

Post by team fl » Mon Apr 13, 2026 10:24 am

Thanks for your effort on Saturday to bring up PR.

Next one is Brabant. That should be easy though as it's the exact copy of last year's race.

Same is almost true for AGR btw. Only change: The Adsteeg, which appeared after just 30 kilometres in 2025, has been removed again.

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Re: April 2026

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Tue Apr 14, 2026 5:03 pm

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Re: April 2026

Post by Alkworld » Thu Apr 16, 2026 8:47 am

@calendar planners: Please think about how to deal with the races the next days:
- add some additional editions for Div 6 only -> I can do it via script (Gipfel will be able to do so, too)
- restrict some classic editions to Div 1-5? -> can be done by Gipfel or me in the database

Possible options for each race are currently (could be easily extended):
- divisions 1 to 5
- divisions 6 to 8
- divisions 1 to 8

The race editor will get an update to allow it there as well.

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Re: April 2026

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:20 am

Alkworld wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2026 8:47 am
@calendar planners: Please think about how to deal with the races the next days:
- add some additional editions for Div 6 only -> I can do it via script (Gipfel will be able to do so, too)
- restrict some classic editions to Div 1-5? -> can be done by Gipfel or me in the database

Possible options for each race are currently (could be easily extended):
- divisions 1 to 5
- divisions 6 to 8
- divisions 1 to 8

The race editor will get an update to allow it there as well.
I like how things are now rapidly possible that I demanded more than a year :lol:
I can support changing division settings in the db
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Re: April 2026

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:27 am

April may be a bit too short termed, but do we want to add more stage races (lower category real races) just for the lower divs in May?
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Re: April 2026

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:39 am

For April, let us know once the editor is ready for that, then I would propose to add div6-8 fantasy races parallel to those classics where nothing else is parallel, meaning Amstel and LBL for April.

For May, I will present the preview soon. Since it's a GT month, not a classics month, we probably dont need many div6-8 only races? That's assuming less than 10% of the wave stay in the long run and there is no additional wave. If significantly more than expected stay, or we have additional waves, more can be added.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Alkworld » Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:39 am

flockmastoR wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:20 am
I like how things are now rapidly possible that I demanded more than a year :lol:
That's prioritization. I could even convince my wife and daughter that I needed to do that yesterday, after showing them the Tiktok video and its impact ;)

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Re: April 2026

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:48 am

Alkworld wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:39 am
flockmastoR wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:20 am
I like how things are now rapidly possible that I demanded more than a year :lol:
That's prioritization. I could even convince my wife and daughter that I needed to do that yesterday, after showing them the Tiktok video and its impact ;)
So what's your daughter's team named now? :lol:
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Re: April 2026

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:57 am

Nevermind my comments as it seems Alkworld is the new calendar planner.
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Re: April 2026

Post by Alkworld » Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:10 am

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:57 am
Nevermind my comments as it seems Alkworld is the new calendar planner.
I added additional Div 6 editions for the next few days (until Saturday) to ensure that the already existing ones don't become overloaded and to allow more of the new players to take part in the races.
For everything afterwards (Amstel on Sunday, Alps next week, Fleche, LBL), please discuss on how to proceed. The earlier it's done, the more time there'll be to fix everything. E.g. if you wanna have classics without newbies, the already signed up teams would have to be moved to another race.

My opinion here:
- let the new teams ride the classics - there might be lots of big cycling fans among the new teams and they sure wouldn't want to ride Rund um den Misthaufen when there is LBL
- offer at least some editions of the classics only to Div 1 - 5
- offer a few editions for Div 6 every day (depending on how many teams stay active)

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Re: April 2026

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:24 am

Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2026 5:03 pm


Too lazy to create the race now, but profiles for Romandie ready
I few comments after a quick check:

Prolog (stage 1): last km has 5.4%
stage 2: laps look ok, but last km is 0 not 1
stage 3: Laps are fine, per km detailed finish (Vuillens) show 5.8-6.3-4.2 (you have 4-7-4-3), last km +1 looks ok, the -3 before less (but didn't check in detail, just from seeing the detailed last 5 km picture)
stage 4: tricky to design but the overlapping parts look ok and are only end of the downhill part+flat
stage 5: tricky back and forth, but the end (133-end) should be the same rout as (41-you get it), it looks wrong in the end which is more important as the first pass, still like it more if same rout has same incline. Additionally the first 22 km are -1* the km from 41-63, didn't check but looks different too (maybe less important as downhill, but still)

My info come from the Tour de Romandie pdfs+ detailed view on LFR
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