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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by cataracs » Fri May 09, 2025 6:33 pm

I don't see any reason why the clear GC favorite going in escape would be a bad thing. GC teams also have the right to win stages, I'm not going to sit in peloton everyday and watch others win (like last year). if anything it's bad for me and my GC chances.

But also, riders skills wise, Badenburg 400% favo. Can't see where Firiam is able to win 4 minutes on him. And with Tukh the top sucker in my list being a cofavo aswell, I don't plan to cooperate at all in this peloton.

I don't know CreditPommes, but if he's always going to be riding like stage1, then GW Fürst.


team fl wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 2:28 pm

Favourite check

Maglia Rosa
***** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA), Reggy Badenburg (Credit Pommes)
**** Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev), Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
*** Alex Dixon (Big Donkey), Tom Trost (Narrenparty), Henri Schölle (HenrunCycling 6)
** Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev), Liu Bei (Dreizehn), Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL), Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling)
* Paolo Mori (r TAKA), Alexis Art (Romoc Riders), Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team), Michael Cuche (Tornado Team), Howard Carpendale (Dreizehn)
This must be the worse favo check you ever made FL. Should be more like this:
*****Reggy Badenburg (Credit Pommes)
****
***
** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA), Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
* Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)

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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by flockmastoR » Fri May 09, 2025 7:02 pm

:lol:
Very funny start here. Go Mori
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by drei.zehn » Fri May 09, 2025 8:40 pm

team fl wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 2:28 pm
As there is no favourite check in time, here's mine:

Favourite check

Maglia Rosa
***** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA), Reggy Badenburg (Credit Pommes)
**** Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev), Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
*** Alex Dixon (Big Donkey), Tom Trost (Narrenparty), Henri Schölle (HenrunCycling 6)
** Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev), Liu Bei (Dreizehn), Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL), Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling)
* Paolo Mori (r TAKA), Alexis Art (Romoc Riders), Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team), Michael Cuche (Tornado Team), Howard Carpendale (Dreizehn)

Firiam vs. Badenburg is the duel of the afternoon Giro, with mainly Makhmadzhonov and two Donkeys lurking. The rest only with very little chances, but it's three weeks and a lot may happen.

Maglia Ciclamino
*** Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL),
** Gianpaolo Cabassi (Gipfelstuermer), Thijs Toornstra (Romoc Riders), Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)
* Debretsion Kebede (Big Donkey), Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn), Guy Walters (Wolfpack Cycling)

Maglia Azzurra
*** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
** Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
* any other riders who really wants it

Maglia Bianca
*** Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
** Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
* a surprise rider

Team classement
*** Big Donkey
** Tukhtahuaev, r TAKA
* a surprise team
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by drei.zehn » Fri May 09, 2025 8:43 pm

team fl wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 4:07 pm
Badenburg will grab the Maglia Rosa in the ITT tomorrow most likely…
Cov on a normal day just loses a minute tomorrow. Don’t know what its like when he starts with ~800 energy

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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Sat May 10, 2025 9:25 am

Unfit, loses more, my guess is Reggy in rosa later today.

GC:

Badenburg vs Firiam vs the rest really, I'd put Makhamadzhonov further back.

More like
***** Badenburg-Firiam
****Makhamadzhonov
***
** Lachance, Dixon, Trost
* Poggiolini, Fürst

With Makhamadzhonov really being a 3.5 star guy...

It's a duel for the most part, with Makhamadzhonov hoping to profit, the rest further back hoping to profit too.

Badenburg will gain around 4' on Firiam. in the TT And a further 1'20" on the others. All roughly. Ok, Trost 53 a bit less, but the rest is 50 (some 48 but doesn't matter, 50)
Can Firiam get these 4' back? Taka is already saying no, but we ride to see if it is possible... 90 vs 81, Firiam might have to give up the stage on some days, and instead of attacking just ride and carry Makhamadzhonov to stage wins, after all he is quite a bit back. Hard for Makhamadzhonov to gain 1'20" vs a guy with more mountain.
The arcade stage of course changes things a bit more, between Tukh and Taka not much to 0.3, form can make that difference. Of course if Firiam is back, Tukh then has the better team so there could be a difference. On the other hand Firiam has masses of others behind him too, Lachance for example. As for Reggy, the pavé is good, the flat not, and the flat counts a lot in those ** (that should be * and still siebable in some places) I don't trust Reggy there, also the team, would be very surprised if Reggy gains time on Makhamadzhonov.

Managers: Job looks easier for Credit Pommes, he doesn't have much experience riding for such a leader, but he has experience riding with inferior climbers :D Meaning, wait, defend, strike in the right moment, not having to do, or wanting to do the action, Krausz and co did that in the past years. So for Pommes the changes not big, but of course more responsability. The change might be bigger for Taka, he likes the mountain defender, which usually on most routes Firiam would be, here he has to adapt to the role of attacker, finding the right mix between dropping Badenburg while not letting others profit from it too much. Reg a bit of a problem for him, and the fact that Mori is not really stronger than Stoel. And that the obvious stages where he can just ride up are few... 1, or maybe 1.5. The rest he will have to find ways to attack Reggy.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Sat May 10, 2025 2:45 pm

Stage 2, first ITT, 14 km, but not completely flat. Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty) was the expected winner, but what happened with the GC guys? Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) missed the Maglia Rosa by 25 seconds. That means that the winner from stage 1, Temptation Coventry, will still wear the leader jersey at the start tomorrow. Self-proclaimed non-favourite Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA) finished 5th today and lost 1 min 3 secs against Badenburg, 1 min 44 secs to Tzimas. The Fürst (Team FL) finished 2 secs behind Firiam, accompagnied by two team mates, Lucifero and Stenberg. The next GC guys were Tom Trost (Tornado Team) at 1 min 57 and Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) at 2 min 11 secs, trailed by Émile Lachance by 1 sec. But to have an overall picture, here the statistics:

Stage 2:

01. 00:00:00 Stefanos Tzimas (Narrenparty)
02. 00:00:41 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
03. 00:00:47 Anderson Appollo (Romoc Riders)
04. 00:01:42 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
05. 00:01:44 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
06. 00:01:45 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
07. 00:01:46 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
08. 00:01:47 Sten Stenberg (Team FL)
09. 00:01:51 Lautaro Lucifero (Team FL)
10. 00:01:55 Yannick Hoebeke (Romoc Riders)

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
02. 00:00:25 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
03. 00:00:39 Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders
04. 00:00:55 Camille Roy (Big Donkey)
05. 00:01:18 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
06. 00:01:28 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
07. 00:01:34 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
08. 00:01:37 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
09. 00:01:37 Sten Stenberg (Team FL)
10. 00:01:37 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
11. 00:01:43 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
...
14. 00:01:52 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
15. 00:01:54 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
16. 00:01:55 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
17. 00:01:56 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
18. 00:02:00 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
...
26. 00:02:14 Paolo Mori (r TAKA)
...
31. 00:02:55 Henri Schölle (HenrunCycling 6)

Maglia Ciclamino

028 - Tim Trost (Narrenparty)
026 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
025 - Benno Gooddy (Dreizehn)

Maglia Azzurra

018 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
013 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
013 - Itachi Uchida (r TAKA)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:00:39 Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
02. 00:01:34 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
03. 00:01:37 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Narrenparty
02. 00:00:19 Dreizehn
03. 00:00:34 Big Donkey


Stage wins by riders:
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by drei.zehn » Sat May 10, 2025 3:23 pm

team fl wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 2:45 pm
Stage 2, first ITT, 14 km, but not completely flat. Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty) was the expected winner, but what happened with the GC guys? Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) missed the Maglia Rosa by 25 seconds. That means that the winner from stage 1, Temptation Coventry, will still wear the leader jersey at the start tomorrow. Self-proclaimed non-favourite Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA) finished 5th today and lost 1 min 3 secs against Badenburg, 1 min 44 secs to Tzimas. The Fürst (Team FL) finished 2 secs behind Firiam, accompagnied by two team mates, Lucifero and Stenberg. The next GC guys were Tom Trost (Tornado Team) at 1 min 57 and Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) at 2 min 11 secs, trailed by Émile Lachance by 1 sec.
Aha! So suddenly Liu Bei is no GC guy anymore to you? I‘ll keep that in mind! ;D

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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Sat May 10, 2025 4:14 pm

drei.zehn wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 3:23 pm
team fl wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 2:45 pm
Stage 2, first ITT, 14 km, but not completely flat. Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty) was the expected winner, but what happened with the GC guys? Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) missed the Maglia Rosa by 25 seconds. That means that the winner from stage 1, Temptation Coventry, will still wear the leader jersey at the start tomorrow. Self-proclaimed non-favourite Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA) finished 5th today and lost 1 min 3 secs against Badenburg, 1 min 44 secs to Tzimas. The Fürst (Team FL) finished 2 secs behind Firiam, accompagnied by two team mates, Lucifero and Stenberg. The next GC guys were Tom Trost (Tornado Team) at 1 min 57 and Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) at 2 min 11 secs, trailed by Émile Lachance by 1 sec.
Aha! So suddenly Liu Bei is no GC guy anymore to you? I‘ll keep that in mind! ;D
Wanted to write something about the other classements as well, but then had no time anymore to do it. So Liu Bei got lost there ;)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Sat May 10, 2025 7:42 pm

Liu Bei sucks. Cao Cao all the way.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Sun May 11, 2025 4:23 pm

Stage 3. A bit similar to stage 1, but only one long hard (that's what she said!) climb around 50 km before the finish line. Again, action from the beginning, but Team FL going for that intermediate sprint for Alex at km 35. So, action delayed, started again right from km 37. CreditPommes had everything under control and led the peloton into that final climb where r TAKA reduced the main group with Mori tempo, right before the Big Donkey Duo Lachance and Dixon launched an attack at km 120, followed by Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev), Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) and Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling Team). Again CreditPommes chasing in the back, while the Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn) in the Maglia Rosa was gone too from that group. He fought hard, but lost Rosa and the Ciclamino today.

Anyway, with tempo from Stoel and Eef, the 5 climbers in front got caught easily, while the r TAKA train was chasing to get back to the group of the main favourites with Firiam being isolated. It looked like everything was under contol, again, by CreditPommes GC wise, when at km 157, the decisive attack for the stage win happend. Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev) and Lucas Papillon (Gipfelstuermer) attacked, followed by Alexis Art (Romoc Riders) and Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL). They defended the gap to the main group with 1 sec to the final km, where Arlooktoo had the best tactic in the final sprint and could win stage 3. The Fürst got 2nd and grabbed the Maglia Ciclamino, while Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) wears the Maglia Rosa now. Anderson Apollo is still in the Maglia Azzurra and Sergey Kriushenko leads the youth classement in the Maglia Bianca. Tomorrow is a rest day, before the sprinters will have a bit more from the race than until now, besides that sprint at km 35 today...

Stage 3:

01. 00:00:00 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
02. 00:00:00 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 00:00:00 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
04. 00:00:00 Lucas Papillon (Gipfelstuermer)
05. 00:00:01 Torger Wolff (Tornado Team)
06. 00:00:01 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
07. 00:00:01 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
08. 00:00:01 Shin Omura (r TAKA)
09. 00:00:01 Noah Lüthi (Big Donkey)
... -> 21 other riders in the same time

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:20 Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
03. 00:00:46 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
04. 00:01:03 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
05. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
06. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
07. 00:01:16 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
08. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
09. 00:01:20 Itachi Uchiha (r TAKA)
10. 00:01:22 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
11. 00:01:24 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
12. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
13. 00:01:30 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
14. 00:01:31 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
15. 00:01:34 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)

Maglia Ciclamino

030 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
026 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
025 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)

Maglia Azzurra

028 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
018 - Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
013 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
02. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:02 r TAKA
03. 00:00:17 CreditPommes


Stage wins by riders:
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Tue May 13, 2025 4:20 pm

On the rest day, we finally had time to look at the peloton, and we were absolutely shocked. Last year's (morning) winner Vladislav Tarabesh, instead of giving him the chance to fight for his 2nd maglia rosa, was forced into retirement just before the start of the Giro. At 36 years old, he was ditched by his team. What an unthankful move. The team's choice of Makhamadzhonov as a leader must be respected, but then at least they should have allowed Tarabesh to join another team by selling him before 34. Some team might have picked him up... So now we really don't know whom to cheer for. Hopefully some other climber will deliver an inspiring performance.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Tue May 13, 2025 4:33 pm

Stage 4, sprinter time! Or is it? Chicken FL already panicking after an early attack. Must have been this pesky Temptation Coventry, Camille Roy (Big Donkey) who stole the virutal Ciclamino from the Fürst or the fact that neither r TAKA or CreditPommes were online. The first to annoy, the second to go crazy for the Maglia Rosa. Well, in the end it was even good to have Coventry in the escape, because CreditPommes, when online, rode for Reggy's Maglia Rosa. Not like crazy, but decently. So decently actually, that the escape of the day was caught almost right before the finish line with additional help from Narrenparty, Romoc Riders and others. In the following bunch sprint, both Romoc Riders and Team FL launched their sprint trains with Narrenparty having one of his sprinters in each of the trains. In the end, it was Andrade from Dreizehn who was the first to launch the final sprint. Cantagalli from Team FL reacted swiftly and pulled his sprint captain Alex Alailefaleula into the right position. But there was still Sapielak (Tukhtahuav) right at Andrade's wheel when both him and Alex launched at 100m before the finish line. With a great effort and by a small margin, Alex overtook Sapielak on the last meters, won the first bunch sprint of this year's afternoon Giro (the only real Giro!) and stole the Maglia Ciclamino from his team mate the Fürst. Behind those two, Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty) caught the last podium place for today's stage. Lots of action againg, although nothing much changed in the other classements.


Stage 4:

01. 00:00:00 Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
02. 00:00:00 Hubert Sapielak (Tukhtahuaev)
03. 00:00:00 Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)
04. 00:00:00 Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)
05. 00:00:00 Calcedonio Cantagalli (Team FL)
06. 00:00:00 Arend Jongh (CreditPommes)
07. 00:00:00 Hannes Rauch (Narrenparty)
08. 00:00:00 Damien Toulet (Big Donkey)
09. 00:00:00 Thijs Toornstra (Romoc Riders)
10. 00:00:00 Gianpaolo Cabassi (Gipfelstuermer)

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:20 Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
03. 00:00:46 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
04. 00:01:03 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
05. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
06. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
07. 00:01:16 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
08. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
09. 00:01:20 Itachi Uchiha (r TAKA)
10. 00:01:22 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
11. 00:01:24 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
12. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
13. 00:01:30 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
14. 00:01:31 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
15. 00:01:34 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)

Maglia Ciclamino

062 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
040 - Camille Roy (Big Donkey)
036 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Azzurra

028 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
018 - Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
016 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
02. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:02 r TAKA
03. 00:00:17 CreditPommes


Stage wins by riders:
1 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty
1 - Team FL
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
2 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Tue May 13, 2025 4:56 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 4:20 pm
On the rest day, we finally had time to look at the peloton, and we were absolutely shocked. Last year's (morning) winner Vladislav Tarabesh, instead of giving him the chance to fight for his 2nd maglia rosa, was forced into retirement just before the start of the Giro. At 36 years old, he was ditched by his team. What an unthankful move. The team's choice of Makhamadzhonov as a leader must be respected, but then at least they should have allowed Tarabesh to join another team by selling him before 34. Some team might have picked him up... So now we really don't know whom to cheer for. Hopefully some other climber will deliver an inspiring performance.
Really hoped that I could take him to the Giro again withot sabotaging my own chances and for a while it was looking like he would get his chance, but then he got a bit too lazy in training.

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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Tue May 13, 2025 5:09 pm

Escape, my masterplan was the to get ciclamino for Roy, not today, tomorrow. But ok, Coventry same idea, makes it difficult. The 12 points that Alex already had even more, had forgotten them. 16 points for Roy in the end, not the hoped for 24.. .so tomorrow looks highly unlikely. Worth a try, the group then went further than thought. Hoped to be at 50-48 before tomorrow and somehow manage to get it for a day. Yes, Donkey happy with little things for the moment.

FL blowing a fuse early, stopping tempo when he probably would have caught that group fast (ok for me, no Coventry looked nice for me, Donks was going to try again). And then not going back in, instead wondering who will come online when and help (I hope he misses sprint-Donkey, Mr. Reliable!) Then came to his senses and rode, just in the right moment I guess, wasn't too far off for the group finally, but ok, bigger advantage for the group and they go faster earlier. Good managment by Tukh in front, Dreizehn and Donkey just happily following his orders, good like that.

Sprint, Toulet didn't win, blah, ok, Napoli then!
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 14, 2025 4:35 pm

Train-Donkey dominated. Well, 4th place, close enough. :roll:

They of the moronic escape attempts and general decisions.

First group Taka-Romoc with pullers finally.. Taka gives up pretty fast. Obviously CP tempo was for GC, no interest in letting Yilmaz enough time to act as a puller later. So stop. Narren with the offline attack though, had I seen that he would have gotten -1, if you know you'll be off most of the stage, don't attack, go in escapes with non-leaders. Had I been on at home I would have chased that escape too (a bit probably) those offline attackers just destroy groups in the end. Ok, maybe he was on at the time, but when I checked later, he was off since forever.... ok, not sure if he was on or off at that point, just suspect off.

Anyway, Taka stops, even announces that it should be for Alex (and there Narren was indeed off), so ok, FL then complied. Just continue, CP already went to green, he wasn't going to catch that group that easily. Just go red a while, get 1'30", FL will not start then for the IS. But ok, suspected Taka didn't really want to have a group, more interest in blocking it? Or just completely moronic thinking? Anyway, moronic escape attempt 1! Caught with green by CP.

Next in the downhill while FL is now riding for the IS, Romoc goes with his sprinter and a not so impressive puller. Yeah, how stupid, sorry, moronic is that? FL now riding, he will just let go a C level puller to get the points for another sprinter??

Next attack Navas, Roy hangs, goes in after he sees it, Navas probably rode a km already. ok, Navas went earlier, can do a few km, Navas doesn't join, the usual whining, excuses, (often he lies as well, no idea if he did this time too, let's say no) so ok, we stop. Moronic attempt 3, why try if you are not ready to ride. (Btw, at the sieb later Roy ended up all of 1 second in front of Navas.... that 2 man group was one that would have gotten quite a bit of time. Go through? Unlikely, but not impossible. Navas with more sprint... take a risk and ride maybe? But no, never, never show guts and ride because you might ride for nothing.

Next, fill up, 2 more Romoc, 2 Taka as well. and again, what was this? CP riding slowly in the back enough to make the 2 panic, that somebody was taking advantage of them? Instead of riding, 2 Romoc, 1 Taka? Or talk, x km one Romoc, then the 2 others. Go red, enough energy to go through with the leaders... (Roy though would have been a problem, he wasn't eager to ride anymore) But no, be paranoid about the other taking advantage of you, or try to take advantage of the other... at least do it in a better way, take some lessons from Alkworld, he knows how to make others ride for him. Moronic attempts 4 anyway.

Dreizehn then joins, after the 2 jokers do nothing sensible he attacks there and goes alone. First non-moronic attack of the day!

Final then, sieb, Tukh goes, more GC than stage I guess, in the back Taka is unhappy, but rides. FL has the better win option in front, but asking Omura with less sprint to ride first was funny... finally went in, Lüthi then joined a bit too, but it was all too late. Taka should just have dropped Mori, who is his Novelli or something, ride the hill with him, demand Stenberg in flat. Then probably the group comes together, and then with Omura who maybe can join that escape with Firiam... better chances than this waiting. As for Uru, he stays with my leaders, Lachance and Dixon. Until Lüthi is close and can make sure I'm not losing 30" for nothing...
Anyway, group goes, Arlooktoo rides, last km Papillon goes, strangely none of the GC guys even tries to follow? Uru goes himself, ends 2" behind, doesn't matter.

Sprint another nice moronic decision, Arts goes, is 1 length ahead. Stops to go back in the slipstream of Fürst. Looking at the last 50 meters continuing indeed gives the same result, but at least try? Fürst has to sprint in the wind too, chances to beat him by continuing at this points seem bigger than going in the slipstream again, and then try to gain that length in 50 meters. Another complete lack of guts, moronic action, always try to "use" others, brain doesn't work further than that it seems.

FL games continue anyway, I fear he'll end up with 6-7 wins at this point. While the Donkey will end up at 0

As for the GC, with 56 TT and this not climbers friendly parcours... it's not hopeless for him. But will he gain enough time on stage 9? Doubt it. Stage 10 he loses. The danger is more what comes later, all those stages with flattish, easy finishes, but again, somebody like Firiam can probably follow Fürst-tacks there. The danger is Arloo doing the attacks, Papillon, but with Stoel and Eef CP isn't that weak.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Wed May 14, 2025 5:38 pm

Nice, stage summary by Big Donkey this time. Only one thing: I have not "demanded" for r TAKA to add Omura first. I was totally fine with the Stenberg group not getting back as I feared more classics would be less good for the Fürst anyway. He again asked others for help and i answered. Eventually, I decided that it's good to put pressure on the front group. So Sten went in. Other than that, as you mentioned, r TAKA could have just used Mori to bring that group back if it was just for Omura's stage chances. Instead, he asked me to let the Fürst fall back. Was probably a joke anyway (hopefully). In the end, I got lucky with the attacks, following, Firiam tempo on that 5% and the Romoc sprint. But I am happy. And don't put that much pressure on my team demanding (!) 6 to 7 wins! Now I feel I have to comply with this too :).

About GC chances for the Fürst: There is a 90 climber with better TT skill only 30 secs behind him, a 81 climber with 76 TT and good support 30 secs in front of him. Even without much thinking and sophisticated tactics, I find enough stages to lose time with the Fürst that can't be compesated with the seconds I gain like today. But of course, I'll try my best. My experience with such riders is very limited. And if other see the Fürst as a menace and fear him, then rightfully so. Like Il Principe by Niccolò Machiavelli ;).

Anyway, the statistics.

Stage 5:

01. 00:00:00 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
02. 00:00:00 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
03. 00:00:00 Lucas Papillon (Gipfelstuermer)
04. 00:00:02 Tapihana Uru (Big Donkey)
05. 00:00:04 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
06. 00:00:04 Shin Omura (r TAKA)
07. 00:00:04 Sten Stenberg (Team FL)
08. 00:00:04 Leo Eef (CreditPommes)
09. 00:00:04 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
... -> 23 other riders in the same time

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:32 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 00:01:03 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
04. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
05. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
06. 00:01:12 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
07. 00:01:16 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
08. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
09. 00:01:20 Itachi Uchiha (r TAKA)
10. 00:01:24 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
11. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
12. 00:01:30 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
13. 00:01:31 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
14. 00:01:34 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
15. 00:01:41 Leo Eef (CreditPommes)

Maglia Ciclamino

080 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL
074 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
053 - Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)

Maglia Azzurra

028 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
018 - Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
016 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
02. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:02 r TAKA
03. 00:00:17 CreditPommes

Stage wins by riders:
1 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
1 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
2 - Team FL
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
3 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 15, 2025 12:20 pm

Fürst?

Look at him vs Badenburg. Same mountain (due to the flat in fact more) So he will lose his 3 minutes or so vs Badenburg in the TT. Can he win them back? The arcade stage, where Taka thinks, or pretends to think, that Fürst will win minutes. I have no idea how much he will win, but normally he should win something. Doubt it's minutes of course.

But in this strange Giro route, it's also stage 8, 11, 15, 17, 19 and 20. Some more possible, some less, 8+11 normally can be a few seconds, 15 with CPs flat weakness could be quite a bit, but a Donkey with equal flat weakness could join him in the chase there, depending on how far the good Donkey is at that point though. 15 can be 0 or almost 0 too of course. 17 can be lots, can be nothing, 19 probably rather minimal, but pretty safe to assume you will gain time there, bad can be 20-30" too. 20 again looks nice for Fürst.
And you can't expect to lose time vs Badenburg in the mountains. Reg is similar too. Your team not strong, but then all you need to do is stay with Badenburg most of the time, attack with Arts following some classic ideally in others. Is that enough to gain those 3'30" or whatever you need? Difficult, but it's not completely impossible either, 1' Arcade, 30" on stages 17-19-20 each, you're just a minute back. You're maybe not that far off Badenburg as it seems. Stupid TT you have.

Now this is just vs Badenburg, we will have to see what Tukh does too, and the Donkey. And hope Taka doesn't interfere in the GC with Firiam, since he has no chance :lol:
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Thu May 15, 2025 12:47 pm

Guess we will find out along the way. At least it's interesting to have strong climbers, a Huber and a 80-70 rider all among the GC guys, allegedly.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 15, 2025 5:14 pm

Of course. I still think Badenburg vs Firiam is the real duel. Behind them Makhamadzhonov. But then would put Fürst together with Lachance-Dixon-Trost.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Fri May 16, 2025 10:12 am

Stage 6, 225 km to go, a few hills in the beginning, but then predominantly flat. A good day for the sprinters? most likely. But also attacks for the Maglia Azzurra, GC, the stage and for nothing. CreditPommes did the GC control in the beginning then Team FL took over for the sprint teams. For a long time, nobody joined, as Big Donkey launched a Lachance attack and everybody was pointing their finger to the GC teams (whoever they are). At least in the end, the other teams with sprinters joined as well. And in the final sprint, it was one of them with the lucky shot: Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn).

GC wise (incl. youth and team classement), nothing changed, Alex took back the Maglia Ciclamino from the Fürst (again), and the classement got closer together. Émile Lachance (Big Donkey) has changed his Donkey jersey for the Maglia Azzurra. The afternoon Giro continues to be the action Giro with a huge variety of tactics, winners and opinions. Only one thing could be more divers: r TAKA's slurs. The usual "shit" "sucker" "noob" etc. in the chat. I have to admit, it gets boring after 6 stages already (and he was only really there for 5 of them!). But in the end, he is also a factor who adds to the diversity of this year's afternoon Giro. Hopefully, he gets milder after stage 7, where Firiam should be the one to beat on the first mountain finish.

Stage 6:

01. 00:00:00 Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)
02. 00:00:00 Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)
03. 00:00:00 Hubert Sapielak (Tukhtahuaev)
04. 00:00:00 Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
05. 00:00:00 Thijs Toornstra (Romoc Riders)
06. 00:00:00 Damien Toulet (Big Donkey)
07. 00:00:00 Hannes Rauch (Narrenparty)
08. 00:00:00 Gianpaolo Cabassi (Gipfelstuermer)
09. 00:00:00 Calcedonio Cantagalli (Team FL)
10. 00:00:00 Torger Wolff (Tornado Team)

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:32 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 00:01:03 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
04. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
05. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
06. 00:01:12 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
07. 00:01:16 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
08. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
09. 00:01:20 Itachi Uchiha (r TAKA)
10. 00:01:24 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
11. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
12. 00:01:30 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
13. 00:01:31 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
14. 00:01:34 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
15. 00:01:41 Leo Eef (CreditPommes)

Maglia Ciclamino

092 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
080 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL
068 - Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)

Maglia Azzurra

018 - Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
028 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
022 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
02. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:04 r TAKA
03. 00:00:19 CreditPommes

Stage wins by riders:
1 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
1 - Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)
1 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
2 - Dreizehn
2 - Team FL
1 - Narrenparty
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
4 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Sat May 17, 2025 10:11 am

Stage 7, it's mountain time! Afternoon action ongoing! Again, siebs, attacks, huge attacks, Azzurra attacks by climbers, GC and stage attacks. Chose what you want. The afternoon Giro provides it. BUT: We got the r TAKA silent treatment. Only after Baptiste Firiam one the stage convincingly, the good old TAKA critique was let lose. And we love it! No silence anymore! We need everybody in their best shape. Baptiste, the Fürst, Reggy, Émile, Tom, ... everybody!

Ok, so the stage winner was, as expected, the best climber in the group, Baptiste Firiam, 11 seconds ahead of everybody else. Surprisingly, the first of everybody else was not MuMa (Tukhtahuaev) but the Fürst himself, who attacked before the last 3 very steep km and got enough advantage to land one second before the second best climber and so on. Of course, the results had some impact on the GC. Reggy lost seconds on the stage top 5, now only 13 secs ahead of the Fürst and 33 ahead of Baptiste. But not only the GC was affect, no no. Dietmar Barth from Narrenparty scooped all other sprinters and took 12 point at the first IS for the Ciclamino, while the Fürst again (!) claimed it back from his team mate Alex after his second place. It's like a tennis match and suddenly your neck starts to hurt from watching on the sideline. For the Azzura, Lachance (Big Donkey) did a huge effort and is now chased by Baptiste too who did not only win the stage, but also the first HC cat. GPM in this Giro. And for the Maglia Bianca, Liu Bei (Dreizehn) took over from Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team).

Upcoming stage will be interesing, as it's followed by the infamous stage 9 with strade bianche. Will it be and early escape, will somebody control for the stage or will it be a GC battle? Stay tuned. Until then, the statistics:

Stage 7:

01. 00:00:00 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
02. 00:00:11 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 00:00:12 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
04. 00:00:13 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
05. 00:00:16 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
06. 00:00:20 Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling Team)
07. 00:00:20 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
08. 00:00:20 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
09. 00:00:30 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
10. 00:00:30 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:17 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 00:00:33 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
04. 00:01:09 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
05. 00:01:18 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
06. 00:01:22 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
07. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
08. 00:01:31 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
09. 00:01:31 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
10. 00:01:34 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
11. 00:01:41 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
12. 00:01:56 Rodrigo Macedo (Tornado Team)
13. 00:01:58 Oskar Stoel (CreditPommes)
14. 00:02:09 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
15. 00:02:12 Howard Carpendale (Dreizehn)

Maglia Ciclamino

01. 092 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
02. 092 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
03. 072 - Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)

Maglia Azzurra

01. 056 - Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
02. 050 - Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
03. 032 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:31 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
02. 00:01:34 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
03. 00:01:58 Oskar Stoel*

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:04 r TAKA
03. 00:00:19 CreditPommes

Stage wins by riders:
1 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
1 - Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)
1 - Baptiste Firiam
1 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
2 - Dreizehn
2 - Team FL
1 - Narrenparty
1 - r TAKA
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
5 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Sat May 17, 2025 6:14 pm

After today new favorites check:

*****M. Makhamadzhonov
**** R. Badenburg-B. Firiam
*** A. Dixon
** F. Fürst, É.Lachance, C. Poggiolini
* R. Macedo, T. Trost



Instead of being 1'+ back to Firiam after the TT, he now can expect to be 1' ahead. And with Poggiolini, who now will be motivted to train to 85 mountain, he has the team to control everything tightly. Can't follow Firiam often, will lose time vs him, but again, should have a bit over a minute to defend.

For Firiam I don't really know if that's good or bad, now 2'21" back, should gain around a 1'? But now he doesn't have to make the race anymore, just gain time on Makhamadzhonov, some stages seems rather easy to gain a few seconds. But needs over a minute. But then it's now Tukh who has to gain the time on Badenburg and of course Fürst. So with just Mori that looked a bit difficult for Taka, now he has Poggiolini for that too. But of course Tukh needs to gain less time on Reggy. Even if Reggy wins 4'30 on Tuesday, that's a bit under 3 minutes, 1 km red with Makhamadzhonov, then ride with Poggiolini, already the stage to San Valentino can give you back a nice chunk of that. And then it's all about finding the balance between using Makhamadzhonov early enough to maximise the time win vs Badenburg, and not risk losing too much vs Firiam

Dixon in third now is a bit the Makhamadzonov role, waiting to ambush everybody. The donkey not too happy, rather unhappy, with Lachance today, for all his weaknesses, flat, arcade tomorrow, he just was the better leader, reg, downhill. He's also the better helper though.

Fürst of course now is a bit back, but with all the minutes he wins tomorrow, we need a Taka-update on how many, he still can fight back. But yes, for him too it got much harder, now he has to ride vs Tukh, strongest team here, not vs much more attackable Credit Pommes and Taka. Lachance and Poggiolini still get the same number of stars, but could go down... Donkey not completely sure what to do yet tomorrow. Go all in for Dixon or try the original plan, Lachance, if Dixon is ahead let others take care of him. He certainly would like to have Lachance there, try to come back into the GC, but well, with Poggiolini now Tukh can take care of him. Risk exposing Makhamadzhonov doing that though. We'll see.

Anyway, good action today by Tukh, Donkey purely passenger. Expected something like that in the second week really, not today, but ok, was a very good plan, by weakening your support riders for tomorrow, you make others weaken theirs too.
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by team fl » Sat May 17, 2025 8:22 pm

Stage 8, known as the stage before the strade bianche stage. But what a stage it was! This could be the scoop of the Giro. When everybody was expecting a quiet stage to save energy for tomorrows stage, Wolfpack Cycling and Tukhtahuaev a bit later attacked with two rider that were not dangerous for the GC. So it looked like an easy stage win out of this trio. But then, on the climb to Santa Maria Maddalena, it happened. At km 96, both Crezenzo Poggiolini from Tukhtahuaev and Émile Lachance from Big Donkey attacked, followed by their GC leaders MuMa and Alex Dixon, as well as Rodigo Macedo from Wolfpack Cycling Team. Only CreditPommes controlled a bit, but the group got almost 7 min away and it was clear, that the stage would be decided among them. With the relay stations waiting to pull them in the flatter part, the question was, how much time will they take over to stage 9 for the GC. In the end, it was a bit over two minutes, as CreditPommes with the help of Team FL and r TAKA reduced the gap drastically. But the GC looks very different now. The second best climber, MuMa, leads now in the GC, 13 secs in front of Dixon. Both riders have not been in the GC top ten so far. In the meantime, former Rosa wearer Reggy Badenburg is trailing 1 min 48 secs after today's stage, followed by The Fürst and Baptiste Firiam.

It will be interesting to watch, how well the savages today managed their energy for tomorrow's stage, where it's not clear how much time the climbers with little pavé skill will lose in the GC. As for the current situation, Big Donkey has pointed it out quite accuratly. MuMa the big winner today in the GC. His team looks strong, the manager is experienced with such situations. Anyway, we should not forget the stage winner, Rodrigo Macedo from Wolfpack Cycling. 8th stage, 8th winner so far.

Not only the GC changed quite a bit and the Maglia Rosa has a new owner, also the MAglia Ciclamino changed again at Team FL from the Fürst back to Alex Alailefaleulam who grabbed 3 sprint points at the first IS. The Maglia Bianca changed its wearer too, from Liu Bei (Dreizehn) to Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team). So very interestingly, the stage before the stage that was meant to have a huge impact, had a huge impact! We will find out tomorrow, which stage will be more impactful. But the stage is set for some fireworks before week two in Italy starts.

Stage 8:

01. 00:00:00 Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling Team)
02. 00:00:00 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
03. 00:00:00 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
04. 00:00:22 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
05. 00:02:54 Paul Wenger (Wolfpack Cycling Team)
06. 00:02:54 Lucas Papillon (Gipfelstuermer)
07. 00:02:54 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
08. 00:02:55 Yannick Hoebeke (Romoc Riders)
09. 00:02:55 Botond Becze (Tukhtahuaev)
10. 00:02:56 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
... -> 16 more rider in the same time

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
02. 00:00:13 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
03. 00:00:36 Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling Team)
04. 00:00:43 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
05. 00:01:48 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
06. 00:02:05 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
07. 00:02:21 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
08. 00:02:57 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
09. 00:03:10 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
10. 00:03:22 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
11. 00:03:27 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
12. 00:03:36 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
13. 00:03:46 Oskar Stoel (CreditPommes)
14. 00:03:57 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
15. 00:04:00 Howard Carpendale (Dreizehn)

Maglia Ciclamino

01. 095 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
02. 093 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 072 - Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)

Maglia Azzurra

01. 068 - Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
02. 055 - Paul Wenger (Wolfpack Cycling)
03. 050 - Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)


Maglia Bianca

01. 00:03:22 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
02. 00:03:36 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:03:46 Oskar Stoel*

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Tukhtahuaev
02. 00:01:33 Big Donkey
03. 00:05:16 CreditPommes

Stage wins by riders:
1 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
1 - Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)
1 - Baptiste Firiam
1 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
2 - Dreizehn
2 - Team FL
1 - Narrenparty
1 - r TAKA
1 - Tukhtahuaev
1 - Wolfpack Cycling

Days in the Maglia Rosa
5 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by drei.zehn » Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 am

Busy real life and low attention to the game made me loose 40 seconds in the fight for white already…

Sucks but not over!

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Re: The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

Post by Robyklebt » Sun May 18, 2025 10:23 am

I say it's over. Since I don't have a single rider 24 or younger in the Giro.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.

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