Classiques Belges

[Robyklebt]

I just copy the hellingen from this years E3 in here, copied from their site, km might slighly differ from what we have ingame.

Just always found it useful to have it in the forum, for comparison, even if of course on la Flamme rouge you can also load the route from the previous year and compare there...

1 Km 31.5 Katteberg
2 Km 75.7 La Houppe
3 Km 84,9 Berg Ten Stene
4 Km 107.4 Oude Kruisberg
5 Km 113.4 E3 Col - Karnemelkbeekstraat
6 Km 121.3 Keuzelingsstraat - Oude Kwaremont NEW 4 3***
7 Km 125,7 Hotondberg
8 Km 132,8 Kortekeer
9 Km 137,6 Taaienberg
10 Km 143,8 Boigneberg
11 Km 148,2 Eikenberg
12 Km 162,1 Kapelberg
13 Km 166,2 Paterberg
14 Km 269,0 Oude Kwaremont
15 Km 176,8 E3 Col - Karnemelkbeekstraat
16 Km 188.5 Tiegemberg

Unchanged c4f rating, see in posts from earlier years.

Pavé, only the flat one grr, no easy copy, so I just write it down, looking at the profile only 3 anyway.

33.3 Hlleweg
44.8 Paddestraat
184.3 Varent

[Robyklebt]

Ah, one criticism for GW, too late I know.

In the profile looks like the finish is higher than the 18 meters above sea level that it should be? It won't really affect the race, so no problem.... but it's always nice when the race finishes at the right altitude... overdesign up, you then have to compensate a bit in the downhill, make a bunch of -2 into -3, or overdesign the first downhill km to make up for it. Here IMO though it's just that we don't go down enough right after the last Kemmelberg. According to la flamme rouge should lose around 100 meters in the next 3 km, for us it's only 70. Might be other similar problems there too, but this one is definitely there I think.

[Falcor CC]

Ah, one criticism for GW, too late I know.

In the profile looks like the finish is higher than the 18 meters above sea level that it should be? It won't really affect the race, so no problem.... but it's always nice when the race finishes at the right altitude... overdesign up, you then have to compensate a bit in the downhill, make a bunch of -2 into -3, or overdesign the first downhill km to make up for it. Here IMO though it's just that we don't go down enough right after the last Kemmelberg. According to la flamme rouge should lose around 100 meters in the next 3 km, for us it's only 70. Might be other similar problems there too, but this one is definitely there I think.

Definitely possible. Don't think the last Kemmelberg passage changed a lot from the gpx, but on the first 2 there were some changes: passage 1 went from 2-4-2 to 5--3-8, so gains 20 metres of height compared to the gpx. 2nd passage 5-0-4 to 5--3-8 again, so another 10m higher than gpx. There's your 30m difference. If the part between the last Kemmelberg climb and the finish has a different height difference than the real race, I guess that's part of the gpx.