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Last edited by Hansa on Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:27 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Hansa
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Re: Help Hansa by his december tour
1st question... Are this real profiles? They look like fantasy.
2nd question... Where starts the tour and where does it end?
1. Frage... Sind das reale Profile? Die sehen irgendwie unrealistisch aus.
2. Frage... Von wo bis wo geht die Tour bzw die Etappen?
2nd question... Where starts the tour and where does it end?
1. Frage... Sind das reale Profile? Die sehen irgendwie unrealistisch aus.
2. Frage... Von wo bis wo geht die Tour bzw die Etappen?
Re: Help Hansa by his december tour
1.they are all fantasy and 2.I don´t know only that it would be in Chile
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Re: Help Hansa by his december tour
Hmm are you really sure you want to compete with a fantasy tour? There are so much guys who take so much time to design a real tour.
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Re: Hansa´s creations
My new Creation for the December Tour (Real profles)
3 Flat Stages
3 Middle Mountain Stages
3 Hard Mountain Stages
1 TTT
2 ITT´s
Day 1: ITT
11 km/11 Minutes

Day 2:Flat
A flat Stage for Sprinter.
164 km/97 min

A Middle Mountain Stage for Classicspritner or hilly sprinter.
Day 3: Middle Mountain
223km/125.5min

Climb: Greixer:7,3,2,20,17,19,20
Day 4: Hard Mountain
A hard Stage it ist an interesting stage and it´s one of the Classement Stages.
147km/103.5min

Climbs: 1.13,2,6,-3,14,4,2,0,0,6,2,11,2,-8,10,5 2.17,2,-3,-17,-12,-2.8.6.5.3.11.7.7.2.4.4.17.14 3. 7,7,13,8,8,8,8,5,7,7,2,5,4,5,5,8,2
Day 5: Flat
Again a Flat Stage for Sprinter with a hard mountain at the beginning but I think the Classic Sprinters can´t win here.
188km/95.5min

Day 6: Middle Mountain
A middle Mountain Stage with 15 km before the finish a km wit 17 % here the classicsprinter will win again.
190km/107.5min

Climbs: KM 103. 4,7,5,5,5,7,5,5,5,7,4,6,3 KM 175. 17% KM 179. 8%
Day 7: Middle Mountain
A middle Mountain Stage with a long downhill i think here will win a classic rider but not a classic sprinter.
181km/97.5min

Climbs: Voriron: 17,18,-19,-16,3,12,-4,6,7,10,8,8,6
Day 8:Hard Mountain
A very hard Mountain the stage will be in alpe d´Huez and on the Galibier the finish is after a long downhill down the Galibier here the Mountainrider win and it is interesting for the classement.
154km/101min

Climbs: Alpe d´Huez: 9,15,8,8,14,7,7,12,11,10,9,5,-2,6 Galibier:7,7,17,-8,1,3,5,5,10,8,6,10,6,6,4,11,6,2,6,8,8,9,8,7,6,6,9
Day 9: hard Mountain
A short stage with a long mountain at the end the finish is in Plan Maison here the Mountainrider will win again and it will shuffle the Classemant.
146km/96min

Climbs: Plan Maison: 5,-2,5,0,7,7,3,3,-1,-3,0,6,-6,8,8,5,5,11,3,7,7,1,1,4,3,5,10,4,-1,10,-10,13,8,3,15,-4,11,5,5,5,5,-2,8,19,12,10,16,11,3
Day 10:ITT
24km/24min
A Hilly ITT after 2 Har mountain Stages it is interesting for Mountainrider with any time trial points it is very interested and the classement can win here.

Day 11: Repos
0km/0min
Day 12: Flat
A flat Stage for get Power for the last stage.
192km/97min

Day 13: TTT
42km/42min

Please give me Tips for improving and post here your comments
3 Flat Stages
3 Middle Mountain Stages
3 Hard Mountain Stages
1 TTT
2 ITT´s
Day 1: ITT
11 km/11 Minutes

Day 2:Flat
A flat Stage for Sprinter.
164 km/97 min

A Middle Mountain Stage for Classicspritner or hilly sprinter.
Day 3: Middle Mountain
223km/125.5min

Climb: Greixer:7,3,2,20,17,19,20
Day 4: Hard Mountain
A hard Stage it ist an interesting stage and it´s one of the Classement Stages.
147km/103.5min

Climbs: 1.13,2,6,-3,14,4,2,0,0,6,2,11,2,-8,10,5 2.17,2,-3,-17,-12,-2.8.6.5.3.11.7.7.2.4.4.17.14 3. 7,7,13,8,8,8,8,5,7,7,2,5,4,5,5,8,2
Day 5: Flat
Again a Flat Stage for Sprinter with a hard mountain at the beginning but I think the Classic Sprinters can´t win here.
188km/95.5min

Day 6: Middle Mountain
A middle Mountain Stage with 15 km before the finish a km wit 17 % here the classicsprinter will win again.
190km/107.5min

Climbs: KM 103. 4,7,5,5,5,7,5,5,5,7,4,6,3 KM 175. 17% KM 179. 8%
Day 7: Middle Mountain
A middle Mountain Stage with a long downhill i think here will win a classic rider but not a classic sprinter.
181km/97.5min

Climbs: Voriron: 17,18,-19,-16,3,12,-4,6,7,10,8,8,6
Day 8:Hard Mountain
A very hard Mountain the stage will be in alpe d´Huez and on the Galibier the finish is after a long downhill down the Galibier here the Mountainrider win and it is interesting for the classement.
154km/101min

Climbs: Alpe d´Huez: 9,15,8,8,14,7,7,12,11,10,9,5,-2,6 Galibier:7,7,17,-8,1,3,5,5,10,8,6,10,6,6,4,11,6,2,6,8,8,9,8,7,6,6,9
Day 9: hard Mountain
A short stage with a long mountain at the end the finish is in Plan Maison here the Mountainrider will win again and it will shuffle the Classemant.
146km/96min

Climbs: Plan Maison: 5,-2,5,0,7,7,3,3,-1,-3,0,6,-6,8,8,5,5,11,3,7,7,1,1,4,3,5,10,4,-1,10,-10,13,8,3,15,-4,11,5,5,5,5,-2,8,19,12,10,16,11,3
Day 10:ITT
24km/24min
A Hilly ITT after 2 Har mountain Stages it is interesting for Mountainrider with any time trial points it is very interested and the classement can win here.

Day 11: Repos
0km/0min
Day 12: Flat
A flat Stage for get Power for the last stage.
192km/97min

Day 13: TTT
42km/42min

Please give me Tips for improving and post here your comments
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Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
In RL the organizers usually put TTTs at the first few days of a tour, in order to avoid having a team with less than 5 riders at the start due to exclusions during the tour.
Re: Hansa´s creations

Voiron is in the Valley, not in the mountain.
And Grenoble altitud is 212m

Some big transfers : Madrid => Barcelona / Toulouse => Clermont
Re: Hansa´s creations
Yep, TTT in the first few days would've been better. And I also think that 3 time trials in 12 days are a little too much. Else, I like the profiles, decent tour. Europe not everyone's favourite, but you can try. What I miss for a Dec-Tour (I hope you didn't post that part elsewhere) is a nicer presentation - more information about the stages, maybe pictures, some extra stuff you know. But the main thing, the profiles as I said look good to me. Hope I could help 

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Re: Hansa´s creations
So for the first day the TTT:
A TTT at the begin of the Tour here it will win a Team with few time trial rider and will cut out some rider for the Classment
41km/41min

And for the last day the ITT:
The last Stage and the last chance to win the Classement because of the length i think the Classement will win before this stage.
17km/17min

A TTT at the begin of the Tour here it will win a Team with few time trial rider and will cut out some rider for the Classment
41km/41min

And for the last day the ITT:
The last Stage and the last chance to win the Classement because of the length i think the Classement will win before this stage.
17km/17min

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Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
If you intersted in help me please post here pictures of my tour 

Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
No 17% in the GalibierGalibier:7,7,17

Rebuild it please

Re: Hansa´s creations
And Alpe d'Huez via Huez never goes beyond 10% for a whole km at the very beginning of the climb
-> http://www.salite.ch/huez1.asp?mappa=ht ... priseH=661
-> http://www.salite.ch/huez1.asp?mappa=ht ... priseH=661
Re: Hansa´s creations
Iceland tour 4 Stages
Very Cold
1 flat
2 middle mountain
1 hard climb




Very Cold
1 flat
2 middle mountain
1 hard climb




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Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
The last HC climb looks like a weird hill ...
Stages are shorts.
Weird mountain classification, but not the worst I've seen.
But, could be fun to ride it, a nervous race maybe ... maybe ?
Stages are shorts.
Weird mountain classification, but not the worst I've seen.
But, could be fun to ride it, a nervous race maybe ... maybe ?
Re: Hansa´s creations
Yes the streets in Iceland are very weird all not only the hill sometimes i get profiles like this 17/-16/15/-8 most time i take then sometihink like 7/-6/5/-4 because i think the profiel i get isn´t realitical but at the las mountain i didn´t know it so i had done it so i think this tour will be a nervous race but it can be very interseted
Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
When the profiles are like that that's because the map is bad.Hanse wrote:Yes the streets in Iceland are very weird all not only the hill sometimes i get profiles like this 17/-16/15/-8 most time i take then sometihink like 7/-6/5/-4 because i think the profiel i get isn´t realitical but at the las mountain i didn´t know it so i had done it so i think this tour will be a nervous race but it can be very interseted
You can switch in satellite view, you see the road. Then you switch in "offroad draw" (tracks4bikers) and you trace lines, following the streets, the roads you can see. When the relief is hard, you can check it with the relief view. That's long and boring, but then you will have good profiles.

Re: Hansa´s creations
i heard from a person which was there thet the streets are really so bad bad i´d change it because that was too bad i think and i think so ist is ok or not 

Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
Good aspect that the stages are short, that's something that has become uncommon in the last years. Try yourself with short one day races, I'd like to see some of that.
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Adam Wollfinger (73-82-80-47-57, 64 Reg)
Herbert Königsbauer (87-60-66-54-53, 57 Reg)
Manuel Clausen (76-83-63-46-64, 57 Reg)
Tom van Amstel (74-80-74-50-65, 35 Reg)
Hall of Fame:
Adam Wollfinger (73-82-80-47-57, 64 Reg)
Herbert Königsbauer (87-60-66-54-53, 57 Reg)
Manuel Clausen (76-83-63-46-64, 57 Reg)
Tom van Amstel (74-80-74-50-65, 35 Reg)
Re: Hansa´s creations
you mean i should make short one day races and not short tours with short stages?
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Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
Madagascar
3 Days 4 Stages
3 Flat
1 Short ITT
1.
2.
3a.
3b.
3 Days 4 Stages
3 Flat
1 Short ITT
1.

2.

3a.

3b.

Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
One day races are just needed much more than tours. And you'll see them ridden in a short time. Tours might wait several months to be in the calender.
Wizards Cycling: De toenemende Ster van Amsterdam
Hall of Fame:
Adam Wollfinger (73-82-80-47-57, 64 Reg)
Herbert Königsbauer (87-60-66-54-53, 57 Reg)
Manuel Clausen (76-83-63-46-64, 57 Reg)
Tom van Amstel (74-80-74-50-65, 35 Reg)
Hall of Fame:
Adam Wollfinger (73-82-80-47-57, 64 Reg)
Herbert Königsbauer (87-60-66-54-53, 57 Reg)
Manuel Clausen (76-83-63-46-64, 57 Reg)
Tom van Amstel (74-80-74-50-65, 35 Reg)
Re: Hansa´s creations

Short stage in newzealand with a mountain finish
The Mountain km are 82-87 (4/8/8/3/7)
Hansa
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Re: Hansa´s creations
The next stages will follow tomorrow.
I look for countries, were we can ride, please post here some (without europe)
I look for countries, were we can ride, please post here some (without europe)
Hansa
est. 03.08.2009
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Re: Hansa´s creations
Invercargill seems to be the center of the cycling world during the winter
4 stages of southland tour were in that city
And one of my fantasy tour.

4 stages of southland tour were in that city

Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...
Re: Hansa´s creations
South Asia is cool ...Hanse wrote:The next stages will follow tomorrow.
I look for countries, were we can ride, please post here some (without europe)
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