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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:20 am

Team attac from guci, not stop, no answer in chat, no reaction!


Km: 151, Pendenza: 0
Robert LIS (guciuzuza) Attacco al km
Leon Polewka (guciuzuza) Attacco al km
Jerzy Monk (guciuzuza) Attacco al km
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Wookie » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:23 pm

Some more information would be nice...which race, which time, were those three guys in the same group, did this attack had an impact on the result...

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:23 am

sorry, i was at work in moment..


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Race was 163 km long!
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Wookie » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:01 am

Wookie wrote:...were those three guys in the same group, did this attack had an impact on the result...

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:21 pm

Wookie wrote:
Wookie wrote:...were those three guys in the same group, did this attack had an impact on the result...



the result are influenced from the attac, that was the caos after their attac, and the game is also influenced from this Guciuzuza!
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Hunsrueck » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:33 pm

Was a big influence!

01. 00:00:00 Susana Sousa (superdragoes)
02. 00:00:00 Teresa Cruz (superdragoes)
03. 00:00:00 Peter Campero (Auxilium Torino)
04. 00:00:00 Jose Norona (Auxilium Torino)
05. 00:00:00 Manuel Sousa (superdragoes)
06. 00:00:01 Mark Ewan (Mosca Cicli Italia)
07. 00:00:01 Courtney Atkinson (barba roja)
08. 00:00:01 JuanJesus Vasquez (Auxilium Torino)
09. 00:00:01 Charles Pellisier (Fraeggfichten)
10. 00:00:03 Jure Golcer (Ambition)
11. 00:00:03 Fabrizio Fabbri (Coroncina)
12. 00:00:03 Paul Popp (Ambition)
13. 00:00:03 Carmine Puddu (Coroncina)
14. 00:00:03 Ian Rowe (Mosca Cicli Italia)
15. 00:00:39 Miroslav Oachkatzlschwaf (barba roja)
16. 00:00:39 Alberto Gentile (Coroncina)
17. 00:00:39 Rita Cruz (superdragoes)
18. 00:00:39 Stach Bank (guciuzuza)
19. 00:00:39 Pietro Quinzi (Coroncina)
20. 00:00:39 Chris Bash (barba roja)
21. 00:00:39 Henrik Gustasson (Mosca Cicli Italia)
22. 00:00:39 Alexander Holzinger (Ambition)
23. 00:00:39 Leonardo Cruz (superdragoes)
24. 00:00:39 Lorenzo Saldi (Coroncina)
25. 00:00:39 Wally Hefferon (superdragoes)
26. 00:00:39 Gilberto Lozano (Auxilium Torino)
27. 00:00:39 Alejandro Saenz (Auxilium Torino)
28. 00:00:39 CarlosJose Ochoa (Auxilium Torino)
29. 00:00:39 Enzo Sanchez (barba roja)
30. 00:00:39 Torben Schnuller (barba roja)
31. 00:00:39 Robert LIS (guciuzuza)
32. 00:00:39 Jerzy Monk (guciuzuza)
33. 00:00:39 Klaus Störtebeker (Fraeggfichten)
34. 00:00:39 Leon Polewka (guciuzuza)
35. 00:00:39 Emanuele Esposito (Coroncina)
36. 00:00:39 Steven Kennaugh (Mosca Cicli Italia)
37. 00:00:39 Edward Teach (Fraeggfichten)
38. 00:00:39 Claudio Colonna (Mosca Cicli Italia)
39. 00:00:39 Tim Montgomery (Fraeggfichten)
40. 00:00:39 Felix Großschartner (Ambition)
41. 00:00:39 Bruce Lee (Fraeggfichten)
42. 00:00:39 Aleksander Alek (guciuzuza)
43. 00:00:39 Henri Pelissier (Fraeggfichten)
44. 00:00:39 Robertt Nemes (barba roja)
45. 00:00:39 Simon Bobridge (Mosca Cicli Italia)
46. 00:00:39 Jan Fasola (guciuzuza)
47. 00:00:39 Dierck Oneveld (Fraeggfichten)
48. 00:00:39 Gloria Cruz (superdragoes)
49. 00:00:39 Héctor Lescano (Auxilium Torino)
50. 00:00:39 Leon Banks (guciuzuza)

guciuzuza style to ride is really shit, but your statements are just as crappy.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:04 pm

i don´t say that guci take advantage, but after was Kaos..anyway, you are an incredible ballsless pussies!...rule are rule, he have 600 races, and make a team attac, that in peloton ride hard to catch him, is another count!
I take advantage from the situation for sure, i was in escape and escape come to end, but dragoes too, and win the stage thanks the influence from this team-attac...the rider that win was not in escape, but profite from the situation!
or Rule must be respected only form some manager and others no?

every time you find it an excuse!
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Wookie » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:31 pm

Keep calm Aux.
We have to know all the facts to decide if he will get a fine and if yes how high the fine will be.
And it doesn't matter if he gets a fine one day after the attack or a week after the attack. Give us all facts immediately and he gets fined faster ;)

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by RainerT » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:43 pm

in fact it was an team attack and he didnt react or drop a rider. but it was not influencing the result of the race luckily. on the other hand if it was in a decisive moment, he'd continue too. no doubt.

imo measures for team attack are legitimate to communicate with him in any way. via normal communication paths, by pn or chat, he is not available. never.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Hunsrueck » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:06 am

fpc is reviewing this case.

No one has said that there is no penalty.
For the amount of the penalty, the influence of the race, however, is important.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:52 pm

Wookie wrote:Keep calm Aux.
We have to know all the facts to decide if he will get a fine and if yes how high the fine will be.
And it doesn't matter if he gets a fine one day after the attack or a week after the attack. Give us all facts immediately and he gets fined faster ;)

The problem ist that is not the first time, but we are at the point that with Guci no more happens, should be disqualified since months, but when he ride shit, is unfair or similar nobody more react, because is "normal", is Guciuzuza!

every day more that he stay in game, is a day too much!

when he is out of the game i can be calm!
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Wookie » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:39 pm

He doesn't break the rules, so...
Make a suggestion for a new rule with which we can ban such guys.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:53 am

OK, TEAM ATTAC IS NO BREAK THE RULE? THANKS FOR INFO! :D :o 8-)
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Hunsrueck » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:19 pm

FPK has the following penalty set: FINE OF150000, WARNING: YES, BAN: 1 WEEK

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Wookie » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:12 pm

auxilium torino wrote:OK, TEAM ATTAC IS NO BREAK THE RULE? THANKS FOR INFO! :D :o 8-)
SORRY FOR WRITE BIG, FUCKING CELL!
You spoke about the last weeks before this attack and there he didn't broke the rules.
And now he broke them, so he gets the fine. Easy as that.
And i rode also some races with him in the last weeks and there he never rode unfair or anything like that.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by ProTour-Team » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:07 am

Hunsrueck wrote:FPK has the following penalty set: FINE OF150000, WARNING: YES, BAN: 1 WEEK
not trying to defend guci here, but isnt that teamattack his first time he actually breaks the fairplay rules?
and with that one not even impacting the result, as far as i can see, a ban of 1 week is pretty much..

of course i could understand you trying to give him "more" for his behaviour besides that, but like you mentioned yourself: that doesnt break any fairplay rules ;)

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Pokemon Club » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:36 am

ProTour-Team wrote:
Hunsrueck wrote:FPK has the following penalty set: FINE OF150000, WARNING: YES, BAN: 1 WEEK
not trying to defend guci here, but isnt that teamattack his first time he actually breaks the fairplay rules?
and with that one not even impacting the result, as far as i can see, a ban of 1 week is pretty much..

of course i could understand you trying to give him "more" for his behaviour besides that, but like you mentioned yourself: that doesnt break any fairplay rules ;)
+1

1 team attack, only 1 team attack = a fine of 150000, 1 warning and 1 week of ban, only because Auxi is whinning as a child, it is ridiculous. I understand more why there is so few players in the game if each time they do their first team attack they are ban.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by lesossies » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:44 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:
ProTour-Team wrote:
Hunsrueck wrote:FPK has the following penalty set: FINE OF150000, WARNING: YES, BAN: 1 WEEK
not trying to defend guci here, but isnt that teamattack his first time he actually breaks the fairplay rules?
and with that one not even impacting the result, as far as i can see, a ban of 1 week is pretty much..

of course i could understand you trying to give him "more" for his behaviour besides that, but like you mentioned yourself: that doesnt break any fairplay rules ;)
+1

1 team attack, only 1 team attack = a fine of 150000, 1 warning and 1 week of ban, only because Auxi is whinning as a child, it is ridiculous. I understand more why there is so few players in the game if each time they do their first team attack they are ban.
After 600 races and a lot of warnings for his incorrect, and often, not fair art to play, it was my idea too to prescibe a stronger warning in form of this one week ban.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by RainerT » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:36 am

i agree with penalty. like that he got to recognise that something was wrong about his riding.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Wookie » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:10 am

guciuzuza and KOSMA with the same IP and pw

really guciuzuza?

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by radekdeboktor » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:48 pm

He broke his ban, but I see him in yesterdays results.
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Hunsrueck » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:20 pm

No, his ban is over. One week was the penalty.

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:23 pm

Wookie wrote:guciuzuza and KOSMA with the same IP and pw

really guciuzuza?
ok, was banned 1 week, warned, come back and build a multi!, what about this?
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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by Hunsrueck » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:13 pm

auxilium torino wrote:
Wookie wrote:guciuzuza and KOSMA with the same IP and pw

really guciuzuza?
ok, was banned 1 week, warned, come back and build a multi!, what about this?
yet you were even in the FPC, new case and fpc is reviewing this case

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Re: Guciuzuza

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:47 pm

Hunsrueck wrote:
auxilium torino wrote:
Wookie wrote:guciuzuza and KOSMA with the same IP and pw

really guciuzuza?
ok, was banned 1 week, warned, come back and build a multi!, what about this?
yet you were even in the FPC, new case and fpc is reviewing this case
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