SM Team : I did a Team Attack
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SM Team : I did a Team Attack
Hello all,
I'm riding 14h field the Vuelta, and after the stage today, I see that I did a team attack
First, I apologize for this, because I thought that I did was right (and everyone in the field too, nobody told me I was wrong).
I thought that 1 of the limitation of the rule was 10 riders (it was actually 8) OR 4 different teams (it was, before the drop of Tomic after the attack), and it appears that it's 10 riders AND 4 different teams, so this word change everything, and I was wrong, even though that Silouanos was helpless.
So I don't know what to do, but this shows that we can simplify the rule 3, as it looks I'm probably not the only one that missunderstood part(s) of this rule.
Thanks for your comprehension, but I'm a bit embarrassed right now...
I would like, if possible, to remove the time gain for Silouanos and the gains for 4th place.
I'm riding 14h field the Vuelta, and after the stage today, I see that I did a team attack
First, I apologize for this, because I thought that I did was right (and everyone in the field too, nobody told me I was wrong).
I thought that 1 of the limitation of the rule was 10 riders (it was actually 8) OR 4 different teams (it was, before the drop of Tomic after the attack), and it appears that it's 10 riders AND 4 different teams, so this word change everything, and I was wrong, even though that Silouanos was helpless.
So I don't know what to do, but this shows that we can simplify the rule 3, as it looks I'm probably not the only one that missunderstood part(s) of this rule.
Thanks for your comprehension, but I'm a bit embarrassed right now...
I would like, if possible, to remove the time gain for Silouanos and the gains for 4th place.
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Well, I think is not enough to remove the time gains for silouanos...your team attack lead to 33 seconds gain for 2 climbers.
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The 2 climbers followed ValdisLiquigas-CND wrote:Well, I think is not enough to remove the time gains for silouanos...your team attack lead to 33 seconds gain for 2 climbers.
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OK , I saw the reply, you are right, silouanos worked only 2-3 km, the gap was actualy gained by valdis and Gorazsd.
I believe your proposal to remove the gap for Silounaos would be fair.
I believe your proposal to remove the gap for Silounaos would be fair.
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
But if silouanos is not in the Group you wont ride so hard because you dont have big chances for stage. Right?
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
I would have do the same, I couldn't attack anymore because I would have been under reg for the 2 riders, and already gain 30 sec on yellow jersey holderBugatti wrote:But if silouanos is not in the Group you wont ride so hard because you dont have big chances for stage. Right?
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really? and for what did you ride than? FF has a 65&57 sprinter you only 51&55! So no chance for stage and you would also pull the mountainriders and help them for gc?
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I wouldn't have won the stage in ANY case (attacking or not), so I just have gained 30 sec on yellow, and we still have many stages to do...Bugatti wrote:really? and for what did you ride than? FF has a 65&57 sprinter you only 51&55! So no chance for stage and you would also pull the mountainriders and help them for gc?
Ok I pull some mountain riders, but I don't think the GC will be won by another rider than Croce/Mc Cann/Uerduk
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1.618 races, leader of division 1 and no clue about the FP rules, shame on you
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Why SM team appears in chat with 3 stars???
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Someone looked to my account as I was offline (it already happened when I sit others)Liquigas-CND wrote:Why SM team appears in chat with 3 stars???
Silouanos deliberately lost 21 sec, so still 12 sec to lose to repair my mistake.
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
Are you part of the FPK to give a judgement on this thread ?sylvainmeteo wrote: Silouanos deliberately lost 21 sec, so still 12 sec to lose to repair my mistake.
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
12s or more ?
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
I got 33 sec advantage with the team attacklesossies wrote:12s or more ?
At the following stage, I dropped myself Silouanos so he loses 21 sec, so still have 12 sec to lose (or maybe you can do that manually?)
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
If the other teams accept it, I would do it manually.
Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
FPK has the following penalty set: FINE OF 20000, WARNING: No
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Re: SM Team : I did a Team Attack
I don't get the FPK in this case... No fine and Big warning (so big fine if he does it again) way better imo! then you're sure he won't do it anymore and didn't do it on purpose in this case!
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