April 2013

[Alkworld]

why is klasika primavera only for div 6-7? that's not fair, it is a real race & no fantasy, and why shouldnt be there an opportunity to paris-roubaix?

Treat it as the compliment, the good teams are forced to ride the important races like in the UCI WorldTour

[Avaya]

:/ really like the profil of primavera.. maybe leso can change it? :s

but prolly he won't, so u may have to deal with that 4 fold win tomorrow!

[bergwerk cycling]

why is klasika primavera only for div 6-7? that's not fair, it is a real race & no fantasy, and why shouldnt be there an opportunity to paris-roubaix?

Treat it as the compliment, the good teams are forced to ride the important races like in the UCI WorldTour

But he is not the only one who would change it as soon as possible!

[gaurain rx]

I will design Amstel!

[NicoVanarlo]

I will design Amstel!

do it fast!

[Alkworld]

and according to the new race they got a new finish? true?
http://www.debrabantsepijl.be/en/elite-men/race/track
just aksing because the race-profile at the homepage is quiet different to the profile we have here...and last years race at RSF was also a lot harder

Ok, did the circuit at the end now with t4b (careful with 1st km which looks buggy, uploaded to http://tracks4bikers.com/tracks/show/133080)
If I do it km by km and applying some common sense, I'll get the following for a 23km circuit in Overijse
-1 -4 4 0 0 -2 2 -1 -3 0 -1 0 5 1 -5 1 -1 1 1 4 -4 -1 4

It's actually not that different from the one in the calendar, but the finish is certainly a lot different.

Edit: km22 may contain a little pave, but it certainly looks extremely harmless and is only for a few hundred meters.

Can we still adjust Brabant? Although my team likes the 4-1 finish, the real one (I used the road map from the website for the circuit) has 4% on the last km (66m to 106m).

[Pokemon Club]

Trentino finish. How it is for Romandie, there is no more information ?

[Pokemon Club]

Tour de Filippinas, 13.04-16.04

[Avaya]

better draw http://www.tourofturkey.org/2013/

profiles are online and good explained. looks pretty nice

[Avaya]

okay forget it,I'll try to draw it tomorrow, maybe leso will introduce it even if its one day later cause of lbl..

[lesossies]

I will design Amstel!

I´m working on it too.

[gaurain rx]

Well, I will finish my version for the afternoon. I mean, I'm 70 km from the finish now But ok, we can compare them then!

[gaurain rx]

I will design Amstel!

I´m working on it too.

Well Leso, the part Loorberg (km81) till the next Cauberg (km162) is the same as last year (km99 to km 180) (and also 2010 and 2011). So we might use the profile of these years for this part (81km)... So we should take this 2012 version as you wrote that last year (and 2011 was also based partly on 2010) :

I adapted last night WWCTs work:
I used the 2011 hill-profiles.
This should be OK

!

[gaurain rx]

So well, I'm done with drawing Amstel. I mostly copied past editions (and slightly adapted sometimes)

Changes
Keutenberg : 9 (former 8)
Cauberg : 6-1 (6-2)
Loorberg : 6-3 (6)
Eyserweg : 7-4 (6-3)
Fromberg : 4-3 (3-3)
Sibbegrubbe : 3-5 (2-3)

Distance Keutenberg/Cauberg is one less km.

I guess that's almost everything. Final changed (see below) and seems easier than before). Oh yeah, And I did it 251 km not 252. 1 km is missing in the last round, if you want him back...

http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... /agl13.png

"In de slotfase van de wedstrijd zullen de deelnemers aan deze UCI WorldTour-wedstrijd de Cauberg een keer extra dienen te beklimmen. Na de laatste doorkomst aan de nieuwe finish worden de renners richting Geulhemmerberg (970 meter, stijgingspercentage 7.9%) gedirigeerd. Aansluitend zetten ze koers richting Maastricht. Via de Bemelerberg (900 meter, stijgingspercentage 7%) en Sibbe keren de renners terug in Valkenburg waar het peloton opnieuw de Cauberg voor de kiezen krijgt. Het altijd massaal aanwezige publiek op de Cauberg krijgt op deze manier de Amstel Gold Race op de meest beroemde Nederlandse berg vier keer te zien. "

Here, they are telling that Geulhemmerberg is 8% and Bemelerberg 7%. I don't find that!

Geulhemmerberg is according to past rsf editions a 6 (and I agree with that) and for me, Bemelerberg (last climb before Cauberg) is a 4 or a 5 at his max of slope (climbbybike tells me that). So well, if you find poins to accredit official Amstel version, I have all my ears open. Leso, what do you fin for them.

[gaurain rx]

I will design Amstel!

I´m working on it too.

And I actually didn't add the geocoordinates!

[gaurain rx]

Ok Leso, LBL is exactly the same as last year for the first 230km. As I remember, we collaborated on it last year (it was a bit messy at one point if my memories are correct ). So well, I don't think we need to work again on this part unless somebody thinks there's something to change somwhere in particular (cilmbs design were also coming from discussion we had with Iban/Aywaille in the past years). For the rest, I'll do a proposal tomorrow and then we can see if everybody agrees.

[Robyklebt]

Are you sure you saved it Gaurain?

http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f

tells me ... ah, see for yourself

[gaurain rx]

Are you sure you saved it Gaurain?

http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f

tells me ... ah, see for yourself

Could be that I didn't I'm a "forget to save" specialist ^^

Edit :he's only available in the old editor, didn't do the Coordinates stuff and so on!

[lesossies]

[lesossies]

we have now 2 Amstel profiles:
no big differences ... but the downhill for the Bemelerberg and Bemelerberg (normaly 5%)

http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=etn


http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f


and together :
http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f

[Pokemon Club]

Stage 3 f Trentino is design like a semi-stage at the place of the TTT.And looks I put a stupid mintact for the same stage 3, mintact since km 154 or 155 surely beetter

[Bear]

No big differences?

I dont need to see the actual percentages and realize that there are differences in the end.

[gaurain rx]

No big differences?

I dont need to see the actual percentages and realize that there are differences in the end.

No big differences yes... Cauberg same for both, Leso 1km more than me overall. My draw maybe a bit harder and my final circuit is also a bit shorter (2km less than leso). The only thing I would really want is Keutenberg as a 9. It's definitely harder than Gulpenerberg and Eyserbosweg. The first part is really sharp and comes after a 90° turn.

What do you think Leso? Your version with Keutenberg 9 is my proposal (as the coordinates are set on your version).

And I would say mintakt 208 or something, just before last Gulpenerberg!

And Bemelerberg normally a 5? mmm, according to the organisation info, it's a 7 (or a 6, if you consider it's only 900m). Same for Geulhemmerberg. For org., it's a 8, for you and me, it's a 6 . So what is "normal(ly)" ? ^^

[lesossies]

OK I do it this way with Keutenberg 9 and Bemelerberg a 5.
tact60 km205.

[Pokemon Club]

Amstel and Fleche Div 1-6 and LBL Div 1-5 ?