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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by flockmastoR » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:06 pm

Woddeltown Team wrote:
NoPikouze wrote:But nobody answered to the most relevant argument against this whole system: If you can't ride the important Tour/Race/whatever because of the times, until now you can in 90% of the cases ride the other tour/race because they have different times.
With any kind of restriction, it wont be possible so much anymore... And people will might get days without any race (or only cat1 fantasy races instead of the parallel stagerace if they cannot ride the main stage race).

Clear ? yeah.
just forget the whole thing. It's only a game ;)
Maybe to point NoPiks Guessing out a short example:
during this week, Pais Vasco takes place, a cat 4, very hilly tour. So nothing for a sprinter team. So the sprint wants to ride Sarthe, but is not allowed to ride Sarthe because yesterday there was Scheldeprijs. So the team has to ride fantasy races or boring one day races.
or another example from last month: there was Catalunya /Cat 4), not even a sprint tour. During the week was Harelbeke, so a high cat-team is not allowed to ride criterium international. :roll:

Sorry but thats nonsens. Remember the last sentence of NoPik: it is only a game, not our life
So? If you are a sprinterteam you really should ride Schelde instead of a 6rider bullshit tour
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by NoPikouze » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:14 pm

But my point was: If you CANNOT ride the important race/tour because of the times (usually 10-15-18-20-22), AND you are restricted from participating at the parallel program because it's not good enough for your team, you sadly end up participating at the fantasy-one-day-races... and probably people don't play the game to be forced to ride only those races... So this solution is simply not perfect.
Money-thing, yes it's a little bit better. But really that much better than the current situation ? Meaning: let people play however they like, and insult them if you don't like their style. 8-)
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by Zentaron » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:06 am

flockmastoR wrote:
Woddeltown Team wrote:
NoPikouze wrote:But nobody answered to the most relevant argument against this whole system: If you can't ride the important Tour/Race/whatever because of the times, until now you can in 90% of the cases ride the other tour/race because they have different times.
With any kind of restriction, it wont be possible so much anymore... And people will might get days without any race (or only cat1 fantasy races instead of the parallel stagerace if they cannot ride the main stage race).

Clear ? yeah.
just forget the whole thing. It's only a game ;)
Maybe to point NoPiks Guessing out a short example:
during this week, Pais Vasco takes place, a cat 4, very hilly tour. So nothing for a sprinter team. So the sprint wants to ride Sarthe, but is not allowed to ride Sarthe because yesterday there was Scheldeprijs. So the team has to ride fantasy races or boring one day races.
or another example from last month: there was Catalunya /Cat 4), not even a sprint tour. During the week was Harelbeke, so a high cat-team is not allowed to ride criterium international. :roll:

Sorry but thats nonsens. Remember the last sentence of NoPik: it is only a game, not our life
So? If you are a sprinterteam you really should ride Schelde instead of a 6rider bullshit tour
And the other days? I really like more to ride a tour with chances everyday then riding Schelde (which is better race for sure) one day and the other days nothing.
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by lesossies » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:13 am

Robyklebt wrote: - Make money in stage races dependent on the category of the stage races
........

I know it won't happen, but it should.
I dont believe too that Buhmann has time to change it.

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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by team fl » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:27 pm

Since when have Div. 6 and 7 teams been able again to ride classics? For PR I already see Div. 6 teams inscribed... Shouldn't it be Div. 1-5 only, at least for the monuments?
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by Rockstar Inc » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:15 pm

of course it should be...but in front of my eyes i see a person say "ohh, but when team xy sees the race in tv and wants to ride in at rsf...blabla"

and really great, when you see some fucking bastards with their pave-farm-teams who rode 10 races in the past twelve months
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by lesossies » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:22 pm

I changed it
Monuments now only for Div 1-5

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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by Pokemon Club » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:00 pm

You change but I see some div 6 stay on their group

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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by team fl » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:You change but I see some div 6 stay on their group
yep. teams that inscribed before still are.
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by Bear » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:47 am

You really need to care more about this Leso/Buh. Now there are D6 teams racing in the 9h race because you changed it too late and they were not kicked out (at least yesterday). Besides this, they have an advantage against other D6 teams who cant ride PR. This does not mean they all should be allowed to race PR now! But think about this topic!

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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by NicoVanarlo » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:43 pm

I think leso is in holliday. He said it, first week of april.
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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by lesossies » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:12 pm

I was back from holiday but I only had the time to change it, not to control all the races. Sorry, but I think it was not a really big problem. Or ?

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Re: Top teams only at high category races

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:22 pm

Not your fault but when there is 4-5 div 6 farmers teams who ride PR after 5 months without riding 1 race, don't know if it is a little or big problem but it is sure they have an influence on the race

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