October 2012

[Robyklebt]

October 2012
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/october2012.pdf

02/10 02/10 Binche - Tournai - Binche - Mémorial Frank Vandenbroucke Belgio 1.1 2012
03/10 03/10 Sparkassen Münsterland Giro Germania 1.1 2012
04/10 04/10 Gran Premio Città di Peccioli - Coppa Sabatini Italia 1.1 2012
04/10 04/10 Paris - Bourges Francia 1.1 2012
06/10 06/10 Giro dell'Emilia Italia 1.HC 2012
06/10 06/10 Piccolo Giro di Lombardia Italia 1.2 2012
07/10 07/10 Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli Italia 1.1 2012
07/10 07/10 PARIS - TOURS Francia 1.HC 2012
07/10 07/10 Paris - Tours Espoirs Francia 1.2U 2012
09/10 09/10 Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte - Kapellen Belgio 1.1 2012
09/10 13/10 Tour of Beijing Cina WT 2012
14/10 14/10 Tour de Vendée Francia 1.HC 2012
21/10 21/10 Chrono des Nations Francia 1.1 2012

Yes yes, Hainan later in October too, but copied from Cicloweb where they didn't mention it


2012 ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
2012 NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2011

[Robyklebt]

Pavé last km *
It's first 450 meters at the start of the last km roughly, easy pavé, so * is enough, then the last meters pavé again, goal on pavé... pave then continues for another max 500 meters... all together it's almost 1 km, but in 2 bits. Could have made the first km of the lap * too, so 2 pavé kms, but wasn't in the mood, so it's just the last km that is *.

[Vea Olio]

This is a hypothetical draft for October calendar (hypotetical, not obligatory):
01/10 Vuelta La Palma
02/10 Binche - Tournai - Binche - Mémorial Frank Vandenbroucke Belgio 1.1 2012
03/10 Sparkassen Münsterland Giro Germania 1.1 2012
04/10 Gran Premio Città di Peccioli - Coppa Sabatini Italia 1.1 2012
04/10 Paris - Bourges Francia 1.1 2012
05/10 07/10 Tour of Algerian Climb
06/10 Giro dell'Emilia Italia 1.HC 2012
06/10 Piccolo Giro di Lombardia Italia 1.2 2012
07/10 Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli Italia 1.1 2012
07/10 PARIS - TOURS Francia 1.HC 2012
07/10 Paris - Tours Espoirs Francia 1.2U 2012
08/10 Asmara Road
08/10 Radovljica - Tolmin
09/10 Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte - Kapellen Belgio 1.1 2012
09/10 13/10 Tour of Beijing Cina WT 2012
10/10 Goreme Cobblestone Challenge
14/10 Tour de Vendée Francia 1.HC 2012
21/10 Chrono des Nations Francia 1.1 2012
Then, if you want a consultation I am here.

[Robyklebt]

The talk about the fantasy season is more here:
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2864

[AlmavivaItalia]

why this?

404 - Seite nicht gefunden (site not found)

when i click on http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/october2012.pdf

[auxilium torino]

06 Oct Piccolo Giro di Lombardia Ita 1.2 2012

the same like last year!

[auxilium torino]

07/10 Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli Italia 1.1 2012



Palmares is not complete, 2011 is not included

[Robyklebt]

The ape ordered RKL to draw Beijing.

Ah, about the preview, some comments: (as usual)

Tour of Hangzhou :Cancelled this year.
Japan Cup and Chrono des Herbiers both on the 21st, no reason to change that IMO.
Beijing: Since it's WT maybe cat 3? Like Eneco etc that are not really that important either.

Then: Mosell on the 8th, Bielsko on the tenth. I would propose starting the RSF fantasy classics after the 14th. Not in the middle of the season end somehow. See the fantastic general discussion thread for details.

[Alkworld]

Palmares is not complete, 2011 is not included

You named it "GP Beghelli" last year And the whole thing works by an exact name match, as far as I know.

[Woddeltown Team]

Münsterland Giro, hopefully i can watch it at TV because it starts near the residence of my parents.

[Robyklebt]

Started Beijing, stage 2 the infos not up yet. Will come with the others later.


Mmh, last year all 0, this year some +1/-1.. bah

The most difficult stage. They are idiots. Real idiots. They have 2 roughly 2000 meter high mountains, and they do the "mountain finish" at Badaling?
Not too happy with it somehow got 5 km too long, then I'm not really sure if the end is the end they do..., map just not precise enough, but I hope it is.. through a tunnel, down a bit, last km up at 6%. The 6 the only "siebable" km in the last climb...

[skull]

Libby knows that Saxen Paves is in October ?

[Liberty]

yes skullz

first stage


second


third


fourth


last stage

[Robyklebt]

nr 4 and 5, 2 as I said not online yet. Will come as soon it's done.
nr 4 only 1 6 in the whole race, last climb.. mmhh, wait...

http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f
http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f

Click to see the percentages, ha.
Mmh, leso, any way to show those things directly here without having to click? With "img" it doesn't show me anything somehow... like this



Anyway, nr 2 will come when it's on... in the meantime I go designing southern 1 day fantasy races

[skull]

yes skullz

Great

[lesossies]

[NoPikouze]

Hey people,

here is a proposal for the offseason calendar we made after discussions in the... discussion-forum.
Colors:
- yellow = real races
- blue = classic and fix fantasy races
- green = proposed "main" fantasy races.
Of course the dates (and the position of every fantasy classic) are only indications, in a way that seems allright for us.

You must remember for the winter-season that european races won't be a big success, since we have the real weather !

Also, we suggest to have most of those races in a relatively significant category, 3 for instance. I'm too lazy to check what it used to be right now
Excepted for the "grey" green in january, which are totally new races, that should be lower probably.

About the second "december tour" in january, we suggest that another vote (in 2 rounds, imho) is organised with the tours that didnt win the first competition. More people will be rewarded for their nice work in this way. And it will (kind of) avoid any voting bias by having a new vote and not picking tour nr 2 from the first vote or something like that.

There is also the Jura Tour. The designer is not around, so we have 3 options: 1/Cut it 2/Keep an old version 3/Pick a new designer. Our opinion on this subject was mitigated

Other guidelines:
-Parallel to the main tours, don't make it possible to ride more than 2 short stageraces, please. If you want to put more in the calendar, OK. But please make them overlap each other !
-Hmm I probably forgot some stuff I cant remember right now...


Anyway, we hope this will help organizing the winter a little bit. Good luck!

[Rockstar Inc]

good stuff you propose...like the idea....

[Lizard]

Great stuff. For Jura I suggest we take an old version, it's a little short now to find a new designer who thinks of a new route etc... we could do that to find someone for next year rather. Anyways, keep Jura, it's an important race in RSF, it'd be sad to get rid of yet another mountain tour. Sooo, about new fantasy races, do you need designers to fill the calender, what are you suggestions NoPik? I'm in to draw one or two races in Asia / Oceania.

[Robyklebt]

The whole Nov-Jan needs to be filled with races in the south.... weather... weather... so what's needed is just races in the south, anything basically.

[Cerro Torre RT]

What's it mean, south... how far south?

Not that I wouldn't know what you mean, but see, there are a lot of countries where you could do races in some parts of them. Italy or Spain, if staying in the coastal areas, for example, are well possible, southern France too, but Central Spain or the Sierra Nevada is completly useless. Lot's of the Balkan countries are even more south, but usualy not possible due to continental climate.

So what I want is, basically, a guideline of how it is decided that a race is suitable for winter months. Cause elseway, I fear I may design quite suitable ones that will not be looked after as most of the country is not suitable for winter races.

[Robyklebt]

Good question... I'm sure you knew that... and one that I can't answer.

Last info we got from management (buhsossies) was:

Real weather is: The weather forecast for the capital of the country the race is in. If that's still like that, lots of rideable places become too cold.. But ok, not the end of the world if we have a few 0 degree races either.. .remember a whole Andes at 0 degrees, grrr
But we really need leso to tell us if that's still like this, and if yes if there are plans to make it more precise in the near future.
But anyway, I think (don't really know) that we need quite a few "southern" races... if everybody just designed a few, excellent, then I could stop my massproduction that is already tiring me out.

[Robyklebt]

Emilia done. Third version for the San Luca circuit in 3 years..

2010: -6 -1 6 -7 -6 -5 -1 10 10
2011: -4 -2 6 -4 -5 -5 -5 12 7
2012: -6 6 -5 -6 -4 -4 -1 11 9

Circuit a bitch though...
Down to 200 meters in 1,2km, 200 meters basically flat, up to 270 again in 1,1 or so again, top of this hill at pretty much 2,5 km... 3,8x km down at 5% average, 800 meters at -0,5%, then 2,1 km up.

Major changes:
- the -1 before the San Luca. -5 from last year was just wrong. It's 500 almost completely flat meters, 800 meters at -0,5%, the full km roughly -2% , -1,8% or -1,6% my brillant measurements said... but IMO in the end -1 fits best, most of the km is basically like that
- Last 2 km. Problem is... in both km the beginning is clearly the hardest... the hardest part of the climb is in the last km too, but the end is almost flat 10-10 would work too I think, but since the end is flat... ok 11-9
- The second hill 1 km earlier. It's exactly at 2,5 km of the circuit as I said, and makes it easier to draw the downhill somehow if it's earlier... otherwise either overdraw the downhill, like I did 2 years ago, or ignore the flat part, like was done last year. Plus the -2 or -1 we had there in 10+11 isn't really there.

Any ideas how to draw that perfectly are welcome though..

Ah, mintact 150, earlier ok, later no

[Robyklebt]

Stage nr 2 of Beijing still not online.

[Robyklebt]

From today chat: quote]Auxilium Torino: leso, next week i work on volta brasil and hainai tour[/quote]

Please somebody tell him that his Hainan will be worthless AGAIN! Unless he does it by satellite, which he is unable to do as he says, OR... attention. OR uses the OSM builder, not GMAP! Google roads will be... 100-200-300? meters off, and it will be as idiotic as what he designed last year. OSM sould fit +/-, but maybe not all roads there...