August 2012
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Re: August 2012
Agostoni now on
Not too late I hope
Not too late I hope
Re: August 2012
We could adapt the time bonifications for the Vuelta like we did it for the other GTs.Hanse wrote:wie sieht das eigentlich aus mit Zeitbonis und BErgpunktne und Sprintpunkten für die Vuealte? mit dem Reglement vom letzten Jahr kann ich dienen das von diesem Jahr hab ich bisher nicht gefunden, wäre mal interessant das rehctzeitg zu recherchieren oder eine Entscheidung zu fällen was für ein Reglement gewählt wird damit man es rehctzeitig einbauen kann ins spiel!!!
Send me the link of the reglement !
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Re: August 2012
Bonus:
Article 10. BONUSES
Pursuant to articles 2.6.019 through 2.6.021 of the UCI
Regulations, and the derogation duly granted by the UCI Council
of professional cycling, bonuses of 12, 8 and 4 seconds shall be
awarded during all stages except 1, and 11, to the top three
classified riders, respectively.
Bonuses of 6, 4 and 2 seconds, respectively, shall be provided
in the stages excluded above for each sprint for the top three
classified riders
OVERALL POINTS CLASSIFICATION.
This is obtained from the sum of the points earned by each
rider in each stage and in all of the intermediate sprints
(except the first stage. – TTT). If there is a tie in the total
number of points, each of the riders in the tie shall be
awarded the points corresponding to the starting position.
Stage Points:
1º 25 points 9º 7 points
2º 20 points 10º 6 points
3º 16 points 11º 5 points
4º 14 points 12º 4 points
5º 12 points 13º 3 points
6º 10 points 14º 2 points
7º 9 points 15º 1 point
8º 8 points
Intermediate Sprints:
1º 4 points
2º 2 points
3º 1 point
Bergtrikot:
Points:
CIMA ALBERTO FERNÁNDEZ
SPECIAL CATEGORY
SPECIAL CATEGORY
1º 20 points 1º 15 points
2º 15 points 2º 10 points
3º 10 points 3º 6 points
4º 6 points 4º 4 points
5º 4 points 5º 2 points
6º 2 points
1ST CATEGORY
CLIMB
2ND CATEGORY
CLIMB
3TH CATEGORY
CLIMB
1º 10 points 1º 5 points 1º 3 points
2º 6 points 2º 3 points 2º 2 points
3º 4 points 3º 1 point 3º 1 point
4º 2 points
5º 1 point
http://banners.lavuelta.com/12/reglamento_ingles.pdf
Article 10. BONUSES
Pursuant to articles 2.6.019 through 2.6.021 of the UCI
Regulations, and the derogation duly granted by the UCI Council
of professional cycling, bonuses of 12, 8 and 4 seconds shall be
awarded during all stages except 1, and 11, to the top three
classified riders, respectively.
Bonuses of 6, 4 and 2 seconds, respectively, shall be provided
in the stages excluded above for each sprint for the top three
classified riders
OVERALL POINTS CLASSIFICATION.
This is obtained from the sum of the points earned by each
rider in each stage and in all of the intermediate sprints
(except the first stage. – TTT). If there is a tie in the total
number of points, each of the riders in the tie shall be
awarded the points corresponding to the starting position.
Stage Points:
1º 25 points 9º 7 points
2º 20 points 10º 6 points
3º 16 points 11º 5 points
4º 14 points 12º 4 points
5º 12 points 13º 3 points
6º 10 points 14º 2 points
7º 9 points 15º 1 point
8º 8 points
Intermediate Sprints:
1º 4 points
2º 2 points
3º 1 point
Bergtrikot:
Points:
CIMA ALBERTO FERNÁNDEZ
SPECIAL CATEGORY
SPECIAL CATEGORY
1º 20 points 1º 15 points
2º 15 points 2º 10 points
3º 10 points 3º 6 points
4º 6 points 4º 4 points
5º 4 points 5º 2 points
6º 2 points
1ST CATEGORY
CLIMB
2ND CATEGORY
CLIMB
3TH CATEGORY
CLIMB
1º 10 points 1º 5 points 1º 3 points
2º 6 points 2º 3 points 2º 2 points
3º 4 points 3º 1 point 3º 1 point
4º 2 points
5º 1 point
http://banners.lavuelta.com/12/reglamento_ingles.pdf
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
Re: August 2012
I have some doubts about the sense of having D6-7 editions for classics.
Tomorrow seems especially weird: Hamburg D1-6. Then there is ONE edition for D6-7. This doesn't make sense IMO
Today, Tre Valli, cat 4... mmh, open for all, so I'd say don't make a special D6-7 one either.
I even wouldn't make a separate D6-7 edition for cat 3 races, only cat 1+2, but ok, cat 3 why not. But cat 4 IMO no, let them earn their classic win against everybody.
And tomorrow is probably just some kind of mistake.
Tomorrow seems especially weird: Hamburg D1-6. Then there is ONE edition for D6-7. This doesn't make sense IMO
Today, Tre Valli, cat 4... mmh, open for all, so I'd say don't make a special D6-7 one either.
I even wouldn't make a separate D6-7 edition for cat 3 races, only cat 1+2, but ok, cat 3 why not. But cat 4 IMO no, let them earn their classic win against everybody.
And tomorrow is probably just some kind of mistake.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
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Re: August 2012
I wouldn't make any at all, since we already have more than enough races for everybody. This is doing things in double.
And about tomorrow...
And about tomorrow...

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Re: August 2012
It was a mistake ....I didnt deselect the automatic Div6-7 raceRobyklebt wrote:I have some doubts about the sense of having D6-7 editions for classics.
Tomorrow seems especially weird: Hamburg D1-6. Then there is ONE edition for D6-7. This doesn't make sense IMO
Re: August 2012
Are you going to put races after the 20?
Re: August 2012
Yes I want .... but I dont have the new Zottegem, Overijse and CarnagheseV-Team wrote:Are you going to put races after the 20?
Re: August 2012
Hm a "little" question...


How can 8X 21kms become 4X 43 kms ?
Anyway, I guess no one cares, as no one rides it.


How can 8X 21kms become 4X 43 kms ?

Anyway, I guess no one cares, as no one rides it.
Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...
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Re: August 2012
old known problem with the "coordinates-stuff" i guess
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
Re: August 2012
kann mir jemand die bergpunktvergabe bei der vuelta mal auf deutsch erklären? ich kapier das nicht
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Re: August 2012
does have anybody already the races between 22.-31. of august? at the moment they are only 2 races (Russia&Japan) on calender.. for planning the season
Re: August 2012
World Ports Classic
The new strange ASO 2 day event...31.08-01.09
Stage 1:

2300 meters pavé, think finally found it, no streetview, but 2 panoramio pics, decided it looks like **+, so it's ** ***
For the rest, 2 hard climbs, 1 and 1, followed by a very hard downhill -1 -1
stage 2

2 pavé secteurs this time. But both with fairly large easy part on both sides.. the middle would be 2 probably, but on both sides nice smooth "Platten"... So only * according to me. Somebody disagrees, check it and tell the ape. Anyway, in reality both races will just be a sprint anyway, so.....
The new strange ASO 2 day event...31.08-01.09
Stage 1:

2300 meters pavé, think finally found it, no streetview, but 2 panoramio pics, decided it looks like **+, so it's ** ***
For the rest, 2 hard climbs, 1 and 1, followed by a very hard downhill -1 -1
stage 2

2 pavé secteurs this time. But both with fairly large easy part on both sides.. the middle would be 2 probably, but on both sides nice smooth "Platten"... So only * according to me. Somebody disagrees, check it and tell the ape. Anyway, in reality both races will just be a sprint anyway, so.....
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: August 2012
no in reality there could/will be bordures/windkanten(?) 

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Re: August 2012
True, forgot about that. Grrrrrr!
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: August 2012
so far:
todays single race:
5, 7, 6 and 3 teams. Somebody likes that?
We have: 6x Vuelta, 4x Portugal, 4x USA Pro, 3x Denmark.
I cant believe this. The one day races are not stupid sausageraces, but the become to races like that because there are only a few starters. Why do we need all those stage races at the same time?
Vuelta, GC, thats ok.
Denmark, sprintertour, ok too.
Portugal and USA Pro almost the same in terms of GC and stages. Why we have both? With less times ok for me, but 8 times?
C'mon man!!
todays single race:
5, 7, 6 and 3 teams. Somebody likes that?
We have: 6x Vuelta, 4x Portugal, 4x USA Pro, 3x Denmark.
I cant believe this. The one day races are not stupid sausageraces, but the become to races like that because there are only a few starters. Why do we need all those stage races at the same time?
Vuelta, GC, thats ok.
Denmark, sprintertour, ok too.
Portugal and USA Pro almost the same in terms of GC and stages. Why we have both? With less times ok for me, but 8 times?
C'mon man!!
Re: August 2012
Today rest day in Portugal btw. Should have included that here, would have made Portugal much less popular already 

Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: August 2012
Ah, and maybe cut the D6-7 thing for the time being... .see 19h. D6-7 12 teams. the "big" race 3... just not enough teams for all the races right now, so better to wait for D6-7 races again until at least the first one of Portugal/Denmark/USA challenge is over.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Re: August 2012
stop this critic....EVERYNODY should have the opportunity to ride everything...at least some guys incl. Leso think this or would he otherwise offer every race/tour x-times an ignore some good advices to the times by managersBear wrote:so far:
todays single race:
5, 7, 6 and 3 teams. Somebody likes that?
We have: 6x Vuelta, 4x Portugal, 4x USA Pro, 3x Denmark.
I cant believe this. The one day races are not stupid sausageraces, but the become to races like that because there are only a few starters. Why do we need all those stage races at the same time?
Vuelta, GC, thats ok.
Denmark, sprintertour, ok too.
Portugal and USA Pro almost the same in terms of GC and stages. Why we have both? With less times ok for me, but 8 times?
C'mon man!!
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"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour
Re: August 2012
Exactly
But stop all the D6-7 races, and stop the money for the shitplaces.

But stop all the D6-7 races, and stop the money for the shitplaces.

Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...
Re: August 2012
Mmh, strange, Stage 2 of the world ports thing: There should be pavé * at km 64, and 91-92, on the profile it's black, but on the left nothing appears. and at km 64 in the log neither, so it's not "undercoverpavé"
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Re: August 2012
bad design
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Re: August 2012
Ever personal!
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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