Calendar March

[Robyklebt]

Still missing here...

[lesossies]

March draft:
http://www.radsportfreaks.com/radsport/ ... F_2010.pdf
with proposed times.

Allready designed:
Paris Troyes OL
Tourangelle OL
Normandie OL (probably only for Div5-6)
Paris Nice OL
Tirenno -> Roby.
Samyn
Friuli
Groene Hart
Classique Loire Atlantique

To design:
Criterium international -> OL.
Murcia -> leso

We allready have the 2009 version :

Flaamse Pijl
Monte Paschi
Nokere

Dwaars door Vlaanderen
Harelbeke
Gent-Wevelgem
Cholet


we can take these If they dont change.

to do:
Catalunya

other races

[Robyklebt]

I will design Tirreno Adriatico, info just came on, will start now.

Not sure where else to write this...

[Robyklebt]

Why not put Normandie, since it's already designed as a cat 1 D5+6 race? Just one, maybe 2 times. Last year in March we had Taiwan, despite the announcements that it meant the end of the game to have D5+6 races by some geniuses it was fairly successful and had 2 groups with 14 participants each. This year Normandie would be ok too I think.

[olmania]

Ok,
so Paris Nice i've not the details for the stages. I have to wait a bit I think (again ...). But no big moutain and big ITT this year i think.

I'm ok to do Criterium International.

[olmania]

The last stage of Paris Nice 2010, it's the same one like in 2009, i've not the url ... so it's possible to give me back the url ? Leso ...
Or I must draw the same one again ?

Edit : I'm stupid (less than Roby), it's ok. Sorry

[Robyklebt]

Tirreno Adriatico:

Made a mistake with the weather in stage 6, westeuropa, should be the same as the rest, südeuropa.

Times: Not sure, but maybe an idea to switch with PN? 2 long stages that take time to ride (no, changing my mintact is not an option)..... but basically something that is up to the late evening

Stage 7 will come soon, doing it now... more complaints, suggestions about other things later.

[Robyklebt]

Here I am for my usual complaints:

Cat: Ok, think it's temporary, but mention it anyway. Friuli etc. as cat 1? 2 please...

Then 1-4:

Sarda
Almeria
Samyn
Friuli

Why?

Classica Sarda and Clasica de Almeria are both on feb 28th. Ok, we already have 2 races that day. so ok, a different day. But then both on the first. You can't have everything.
Same with Friuli and Le Samyn. Both on the third, why not for RSF? Can't ride both, that's the way it is. Put fantasy races the on the second and fourth. If not, why not change E3 and Gent too, so that I we can ride Catalunya and E3/Gent. Why not advance PN a few days so we can ride PN AND TA? Because we try to follow reality as much as possible. IMO that should count for things like the 4 races above too. Feb 28th, ok, 4 races at once, too many, put 2 on march first.

Classique Loire Atlantique: 20. Same day as MSR. Perfect, why change to the 19th? Make MSR D1-4 and Loire D5-6. Perfect.

[olmania]

Classique Loire Atlantique: 20. Same day as MSR. Perfect, why change to the 19th? Make MSR D1-4 and Loire D5-6. Perfect.

I agree

[lesossies]

By Cat1 Races not so important, I think.
By MSR, I agree too MSR Div1-4 and other race Div5-6.

[Robyklebt]

Yes yes, I noticed that cat 1 or cat 2 isn't important for you....

Still, then why even have cat 1 and cat 2?

[lesossies]

Who designs Catalunya ?
I make Murcia with Rutametro and Google.

How is it with Nokere, Dwaars d. Vlaanderen, E3 Harelbeke, Gent-Wevelgem, De Panne .... ?
Sampe profil like 2009 ? Belgium fans ?

[Robyklebt]

Catalunya is not online yet. If nobody else wants I could do that. IN my own slow pace, once it's on. But if somebody else wants... excellent!
Murcia, no, don't do races that don't invite italian teams.

North... Aywaille? But he's not been actif for a while.... have to get him to say something.

[auxilium torino]

Montepaschi Eroica

if you want,give a October amatorial version (205 km.), very hard and nice!
I find better as 2009 version, and, i think,will be the same as 6 march race!
I can design it!

[Robyklebt]

I would wait for the official version, should come any day now.

[auxilium torino]

I watch the daily Gazzetta dello Sport, but everything seems blocked, as always ... Berlusconi docet

[auxilium torino]

Monte paschi online!!

Regulation provides for a sprint race at the end of the lines of dirt road ...
Not 'can we, I replaced them with the mountain Gp 2

Normally runs with 8 men per team

[olmania]

Cat2 It's too much, no ? Cat 4 or 3 maybe ?

[Robyklebt]

Mmh... maybe post the designed races here?

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8

Just to keep it "übersichtlich" Here we complain and tell leso what he does wrong and why the times and cats etc are all wrong, easy to lose track of what has been designed and what not once the forum get's busier.

[lesossies]

Mmh... maybe post the designed races here?

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8

Just to keep it "übersichtlich" Here we complain and tell leso what he does wrong and why the times and cats etc are all wrong, easy to lose track of what has been designed and what not once the forum get's busier.

Maybe it´s better like Aywaille did it, and we use the calendar discussion thread only for special races, monuments and GTs.

What do you mean ?

[lesossies]

Monte paschi online!!

Regulation provides for a sprint race at the end of the lines of dirt road ...
Not 'can we, I replaced them with the mountain Gp 2

Normally runs with 8 men per team

Kat 4 would be Ok.

Almost alle the Paves are 3* in this version, and last year we had only 2* ... what´s the best ?

[auxilium torino]

not all are 3. but natural is hard as Pave, i think!!!

[Robyklebt]

It's a a discussion that could easily have been avoided... "natural" but Buhmann doesn't really want it.

See other thread

[auxilium torino]

I also think it would be better to pave the way naturally divided from being something quite different!
also pave the same should be a value aside, the mixture of 2 other enon

[skull]

cant help me, looks nearly the same like last year^^
i miss the last sector (only 1km), but maybe the graphic/my eyes are bad
in our first monte paschi we have 3* but the designer sys (la bella italia) means that was not adequate and downgrade it to 2*
and where you find all these mountain classifications ?

cat 4 for Monte Paschi ? same level like Omloop and better than Kuurne ? must be a joke
i think cat 3, like in the pdf-preview, is ok
and why are Almeria and Sarda not cat 2 - european 1.1 races deserve at minimum cat 2