April

[olmania]

Tro Bro Leon: 3-6 or 2-6 (cat 2 like Primavera, but Amstel only 5, so allow one cat more, ok ok, cat 1 pavéstars like Olimpiu will be unhappy of course, but that's the price they pay for being in an elite team. You won't see Cancellara there either. )

Don't do that. I've put my forms on this fabulous and magic race !

[RohrheimRadler]

Tour de Finestre UCI 1.1 April 16th

[lesossies]

Klasika Primavera updated -> now for div3-6
Finistére online -> cat1 ... not the greatest Palmarés .... 1 point more for Bretagne ?
Too late to change Tro Bro Leon, a race so much riders have set their form for, like Xiaobo who want to win it twice.
If I get Denain for the 14th I´ll progam it
Trentino and Romandie are still missing but we have time.

[gaurain rx]

Don't know how you drawed L-B-L in March cause the official design is known since today! So I will check it closely!

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/cyclisme/detai ... id=5897903

[lesossies]

Don't know how you drawed L-B-L in March cause the official design is known since today! So I will check it closely!

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/cyclisme/detai ... id=5897903

I got the infos of the changes for the 2011. version and I implemented the changes like the Côte de la Haute Levée between Stockeu and Rosier.
Maybe they have now more detailled informations. If they are changes I´ll adapt it.

[RohrheimRadler]

The Profronde is actually on the 16th, and on the 15th, there is Dwars dor Drenthe, which I also drew.
I can do Denain tommorow, but not sure, if I get it right with the missing pave info in the itenerai, but I'll try.

Will Aux do Trentino? If it's not started after the Weekend, I could do it Sunday/Monday.

[Rockstar Inc]

Can i please get back my stolen classic-win from 2010?

Scheldeprijs was 2007,2008,2009,2011 Cat 4

in 2010 somebody deciced to rank it Cat 3 because the race isn't important enough to rank it Cat 4....but things changed in 1 year and now it is agian important enough?

[RohrheimRadler]

GP Denain, no idea how much pave it has, it usually ends in a mass sprint, so likely not too much, and not too difficult, if anyone has a better idea, please correct.

[Zentaron]

@Rohrheim Ich hab ja keine Ahnung vom Zeichnen, aber ist das Absicht, daß bei Sarthe heute die eine Runde des Rundkurses am Ende anders gezeichnet ist als die anderen? 3 Runden + die angefangene letzte gehen 4 3 -1 -2 -7 0 0 2 1, nur die vorletzte hat statt der -7 eine -6 und es fehlt eine 0.

[RohrheimRadler]

hmm, mit Rundkursen hab ich manchmal meine Probleme, der war am Ende glaub ich niedriger, oder nen km zu lang, deshalb hatte ich nochmal dran rumeditiert, ging wohl schief....

[RohrheimRadler]

Dwars door Drenthe 2011 UCi 1.1. April 15th

ossies, can we get that race into the calendar? The Profronde actually is a day later, than in the current april calendar.....

[Luna]

Dwars door Drenthe, Profronde van Drenthe? Are they both UCI 1.1 for men? I'm confused. The calendars I find say different things..

[Robyklebt]

Leso:

Paris Roubaix-Pavé evaluation on:

http://www.letour.fr/2011/PRX/COURSE/fr ... zone166885

Sector 4 starts 115,5 but for us at 112. A bit too early, but not a big problem.

The sector at km 137 doesn't exist, probably one of the cut ones. Cut it!

142,5 is one of the new ones: It's 5! Change to 5

146 new too, guessed right, I'm impressed

149 *** (now 2-2)
152 *** (now 2-3)
164 **** (now 2 2 3)
183 ** (now 3)
230 should be 231
233: *** (now 4)
250:** now 1 (at 249 for us, change that too)
Add a km, it's 258 not 257, where not sure, maybe before the 250 pavé thing a 0 or so.

Edith: The sector at 137: is not in that list, but it's in the itinéraire horaire.

Début de secteur pavé de Artres à Préseau (recouvert)

Not sure what the recouvert means... And not sure if it's in the race or not, since it doesn't appear in the pavé list.

[lesossies]

I was confused too.
Dwars Drenthe start at 15.04.
Profronde 16.04 cat2 maybe too much but not so important

[NoPikouze]

recouvert should mean they have put asphalt on it, but i'm not sure neither

[lesossies]

I have changed the km137 pavés to 1*
Length 258 km
Rest adapted

[RohrheimRadler]

I was confused too.
Dwars Drenthe start at 15.04.
Profronde 16.04 cat2 maybe too much but not so important

Yeah, looks like both are UCI 1.1. from official site, somehow cyclinglinks lists them as a tour.

Will design Tour of Turkey 24. April - 1. Mai UCI 2.HC(according to official site) next.

[RohrheimRadler]

[Rockstar Inc]

Trentino out now?

http://www.girodeltrentino.com/EN/1/2/Stages.htm

[RohrheimRadler]

Stage 4 done, will continue with Stage 5 Sunday evening, 8 Stages in total, hope do be finished by Monday

Is someone doing Romandie? don't remember,

Aux wrote me he'll do Trentino, so hope he does it in time

[Rockstar Inc]

Romandie no profiles till now

[auxilium torino]

Trentino 2011

[skull]

and cause the uci-status grows up and in general the race have great Albo D'oro i recommend an upgrade to cat 3 in rsf

[Robyklebt]

I have changed the km137 pavés to 1*
Length 258 km
Rest adapted

Thanks, but.. .really adapted? Lots seems the same?

149 2-2, according to the link its +++, 2500 Meters long. So make it ***, 2 Km ok
152 2-3, according to the link it's +++ 1600 meters long. Make it *** 2 Km long. So together the length is ok, so close to each other somehow better than the Skullzmethod I think, it's 3 according to the site, should be 3!

Will survive this, and stuff that comes later, but the next one IMO should be corrected. (Not saying the rest not, but this one more important)

164: Haveluy, ****, not 2 2 3. According to the english Wikipedia, probably from les amis de Paris Roubaix, last part harder, so 3-4-4 would be ok, but should have 2x 4 in it. or just 4 4 4, 2500 meters long, Arenberg a few km later is 2400, Arenberg is 2 Km at 5 for us, make Haveluy 3 Km at 4 and it's compensated too.

183 1100 meters, 2 not 3, see below
233 1100 meters 3 not 4, no reason to make it harder for the 100 meters...

250 1400 meters ++ according to the rating, used to be +, but they changed it to ++. And since it's 1400 meters long IMO ok to change it for us as well. Since it might turn out to help make the race more "realistic" too, ** at 8 Km from the end will maybe see less people in tempo in a chase group than * did, since at * you lose less time in an attack, and it's easier to follow an attack, with ** I will think twice about who to ride with if I'm in the back. Which I won't be of course. But it becomes more decisive, which is of course wrong, it isn't decisvie at all most of the time, but it will make the flat part between Carrefour de l'arbre and this sector harder to ride, you can't just put everything in since at * nothing will happen and if somebody gets away you get him again, it will make it more tactical. So making the earlier pavés more important again, which is good.

The 2 important things bolded... of course changing all would be nice, but, if no time or not convinced the bold ones IMO the important ones.

The changes are all "official"

Sur la base des reconnaissances du parcours effectuées le 4 avril par Christian Prudhomme et Jean-François Pescheux, les organisateurs ont attribué une note de difficulté à chacun des 27 secteurs pavés de la course, évaluée en fonction de leur longueur, de l’irrégularité des pavés, de l’état général du tronçon et de son emplacement.

The old rating comes from a older reconnaissance, JF Pescheux as well, here the old ratings and description

http://www.lesamisdeparisroubaix.com/do ... 20site.pdf

Same people rechecked, changed some things, let's change it too (Haveluy though is unchanged, should just be 4 not 2 2 3

Next: Please cut that Strasbourg-Stuttgart thing. Don't remember who designed it, but it's just too... shocking. To see a mountain top arrival in Stuttgart. Find another fantasy race, one that is a bit less fantastic.

[lesossies]

I am light confused but OK I change it the way.