Youth market REVOLUTION!!!

[NoPikouze]

I'm too lazy to read everything

But I want to talk about one point: the supply of new riders
Will it be the same random system as now ? Or perhaps a system with some standard good riders available at every period ?

[VC Aywaille]

- also cheap riders (salary) will be more expensive (I think) -> i don't think. When you take the market there come a lot of bids for the best riders. So not a lot in the same time for the cheapest. And with the idea to make down the values... -> supply and demand. if the demand is higher than the supply, prices will increase. as simple as that. and almost everybody need riders that are cheap but have some usefull skills though.-> not if we adapt the values fl. Maybe the leaders become more expensive, but if the helpers-value fall... Another positive effect: a team with a lot of good riders come more difficult to buy that a well balanced team

[team fl]

I don't know how many times Buhman emphasised in the past that RSF is not a game about economics. With the auctions-system it will be much more and much less calculable than now (uncertain expenses). Which is bad for me, I presume.

I agree. This is a cycling game and not a economics game. But it's also not a game for fast-clicking-always-being-online-people. Everyone should get the chance to buy good riders.

Like your post, except the quoted part: Because it's individual what you like more. There are some who have enough time to find their wanted riders, some not. I have gotten very well along with the "fast-clicking-always-being-online-people"-principle (I call it the "first-come-first-serve"-principle).

BUT you are right in one way, and that is the most important part about an auctions-system, as I understood it: Everybody should have the same chances to buy a rider on the youth marked. And as I see, this is more the case in an auction-system, although it may not be good for me myself.

I am sure I didn't understand the Roby-post fully, but after reading it, I feld much more comfortable (and if it's only because my thoughts were messed up and distracted).

1 strict D1-D4/D5-6 separation

Sounds logical... somehow

go under 100%.

definitly yes!

Only bid when you have money? For it.

Also very logical

MOre bid than one? Easy.

(Quotation is correctly! Big "O" mistake made by Roby...)

Like that one too

Withdrawing bids: HAS to be possible.

of course...



So, looks much better for me now, although still critical

[team fl]

- also cheap riders (salary) will be more expensive (I think) -> i don't think. When you take the market there come a lot of bids for the best riders. So not a lot in the same time for the cheapest. And with the idea to make down the values... -> supply and demand. if the demand is higher than the supply, prices will increase. as simple as that. and almost everybody need riders that are cheap but have some usefull skills though.-> not if we adapt the values fl. Maybe the leaders become more expensive, but if the helpers-value fall... Another positive effect: a team with a lot of good riders come more difficult to buy that a well balanced team

To much IF, give me a logical argument! And your last argument doesn't affect my team at all. So I don't care about that

[Zauberlehrling]

To stay easy: The leader will become more expensive... if it's a really rare leader like a 56-74-79 or a 50-59-82 sprinter. The Helper might become cheaper, the 47-74-55 will probably go for 95%.. and for sure the 50-71-57 will.
The goal should be, that an average team has to spend the same amount of money for his riders, a bit more for leaders, a bit less for helpers. If that's really not possible there is the possibility to decrease the tax a bit. Now it goes up to 70%, maybe 60% will fit better.
But that we will see when we have auctions for 2-3 months and everybody made his experience.

[VC Aywaille]

I don't have to defend something, i just give my opinion. If you are not for this revolution because you think that the riders can become more expensive, i answer that there are some solutions possible. What did you hope from me (of course, never hope something from a Belgian )?

[team fl]

countercheckquestion: with who are you talking? with the magical apprentice?