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by Robyklebt » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:43 pm
The price really is a question of balance.
1 strict D1-D4/D5-6 separation
D5-6 with the old system. Yep, riders will be cheaper, an advantage for D5 teams. Go down, get your riders to the normal price, that's it. Is it a huge problem? Don't think so. But the auction system can't really work well with one big market: Balance. Buh needs to find the right balance, how many riders per day. And with an always changing number of managers it's just too time intensive. Ok, a script that automatically checks how many managers were active in the last x days then automatically adjusts the nr of riders might work, but... then the second problem comes. New manager, doesn't know the game, ok, is in D5 now, but still new, wants the cool 73-47-48-46-43 for 35 reg, a cool mountain rider. He really wants him. Instead of 2,6 or so he offers 3 Mio. No good. Other new manager knows more he wants the 73-56-79-50-50 with 45 reg. And being new and succesful he has money (earned in group 2) and still no real understanding of the prices.. he will overpay for that one too. Have 2-3 of those and the market prices for good riders increase too much...
So IMO needs to be separated.
With a separation there is a fix number of manager in D1-4, according to our resident mathematician Zauberlehrlinge 140, non mathematicians but with a deep and real understanding of Pythagoras, triangles and Oloids (one l !) put the number at 180. Be it as it may, Buh will have to figure that out, the number is fix. And with that finding the right balance is easier. I'm sure it will need adjustement in the early phase. But that's the way it is.
Rides who will, really should, because if they don't that means there are too many riders on the market, more expensive are: Absolute Topriders. 56-74-79, 73-56-79m, 50-59 82 sprint with low reg. etc. Those really superb ones every x month riders (how often do they appear now? Shouldn't become more) will get more expensive. Maybe a fair bit more expensive. A bit more normal superriders, 56-74-70, 73-55-77, 48-58 with 82 sprint and 45 reg probably a bit higher too, but shouldn't really be too much. Plus changing from month to month obviously. The 54-73-70 on the other hand might stay the same. Fairly often there I think, some might cost more, some the same. The other type that will get more expensive is: cheap riders as FL said. Sometimes there are really good cheap riders, that are wanted exactly because they are cheap. Cheap to buy, cheap in salary. They will be a bit more expensive, which is good, after all they are very useful in keeping the salary down, will become more useful and valuable if the "less riders per race" test is succesful and gets introduced. Flat guy for 1,3 will increase, The one for 1,5 probably not.
But in the end how much really depends on the balance. What's the goal, then up to Buh to find the right amount of riders.
An idea that IMo should be discussed to is: go under 100%. Right now there are some riders that are "overpriced" high reg futre flat guys for exampe. a 48-60-63-50-48 64 reg. 1,5 Mio, really expensive for what he is actually able to do later. Can become something like 50-75+-80-65 etc. Then he is actually a very useful and nice rider. But... you can buy those ready for less grown up. 45-77-69-49-56 65 reg "name geben" on the market, for 1,48 Mio. Ok, less mountain, ok ok, but this type of rider, not popular I know. the Zugravescuhype never really worked, is just hopelessly overpriced when they are young. So going under 100% would let you correct that a bit... how much, Gaurain spoke of 85, IMO that's too much. But 95? Yes, I'm aware it's then only 75k for a 1,5 Mio rider, still something. But it's 200k for a 4 Mio rider too. This would probably make the regulation of the number of riders more difficult. The lower you go, 85 (but too low anyway) the more difficult it gets. If you stop at 100, you just have to keep an eye on the high prices, if you go lower you have to keep an eye on the low ones too... more difficult, still, kind of like going under 100%. 95%.
Only bid when you have money? For it. I often wait with selling until I see the guy I want too, but in a way, would prefer I had to sell. Then no guarantee to get him? My choice, have to decide case by case. See the 54-76-79 for 1,9 Mio, want him, want to bid 2,1 Mio, need to sell, bid, lose. Ok, my choice. Think I won't get him anyway, keep him, he goes for 2 Mio. Hihihi, my fault.
MOre bid than one? Easy. 2 Mio, I bid on 70 riders. No problem. I only get ONE! Which one. The one I get first. All the other bids than are dead. Of course we will have the jokers who put in the same amount of money on 2 riders, just to see if the system explodes, RSF crashes and the world ends. Then make a system for that, same amount of money, you get the "better one", the one with the higher value. Ok, 2 have the exact same value? then the system explodes, yep.. or then make it by luck. Or whatever, devise a system. For the 0,00001% chance that that ever happens.
Tie the salary with the price? Don't really know. SEe + and - on this one.
Oh, more new stuff since I started:
Withdrawing bids: HAS to be possible. The Klebt idiocy policy, Oh, cool rider, I bis 1'700'058. And put in a 0 to much or start with a 2... of course you can withdraw bids. The real question is: Withdraw and make a new one ok? Or should that be restricted? Withdraw and you can't rebid on the same one? Withdraw and you can rebid only a once/twice?
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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