Meteo

Discussion about technical stuff and suggestions for improvement.

Moderator: systemmods

Post Reply
Pirkio
Posts: 1056
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:40 pm
Contact:

Meteo

Post by Pirkio » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:07 pm

how the meteo can change a ride?

I read in a 3D something about this someone can help me?
----------------------------------------------
Motorizzati Corse

We're back!

Buhmann
Posts: 3215
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:28 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Buhmann » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:30 pm

What? :) I donßt understand the question. But this could be my fault ;)

User avatar
skull
Posts: 255
Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by skull » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:23 pm

something with the weather i guess
sounds like a translator - maybe tell aux in italian and he can tell us ;)
You know you love me.

User avatar
NoPikouze
Posts: 2964
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:57 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by NoPikouze » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:38 pm

He has a 3D version of the game, I want it too!


The main influence of the weather (meteo) is that riders lose more energy. And with rain you can do downhill siebs.
Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...

Luna
Posts: 1764
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Luna » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:14 pm

Hot weather or cold weather = big energy loss per km.

Rain = extra energy loss per km. The more rain, the higher the loss; per km

Backwind = good for escapees, headwind = bad for escapees (plus effecting the energy cost for making tempo)

Strong rain (= 3 rain drops under the cloud) = possibility of splitting the field on high(!) degrees of downhill (only when a strong downhiller makes tempo).


Have I forgotten something?

User avatar
NoPikouze
Posts: 2964
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:57 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by NoPikouze » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:31 pm

I don't think you need STRONG rain to make a split
Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...

Buhmann
Posts: 3215
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:28 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Buhmann » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:35 pm

Time-Trial: Risk has more influence, when it rains.

Robyklebt
Posts: 10196
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:50 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:43 pm

Maybe he asks about Buhmanns most fantastic innovation ever?

Animated rain? Can be changed under profile, and has no influence whatsoever on anything.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.

Luna
Posts: 1764
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Luna » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:39 pm

NoPikouze wrote:I don't think you need STRONG rain to make a split
You do, for sure. It works only with strooooong rain. And only at steeeep descents.

Pirkio
Posts: 1056
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:40 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Pirkio » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:02 pm

Thank you guys for the reply.. yes "Meteo" is the weather don't remember this :lol:

Didn't understand well the split whit downhill and rain the rest is ok ;)
----------------------------------------------
Motorizzati Corse

We're back!

Lizard
Posts: 1325
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:20 am
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Lizard » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:05 pm

Okay, then once again a little more in detail:

When the weather is "heavy rain" there is a chance to split the peloton at a downhill (which is not possible without heavy rain). When the descent is around 9%+ and a strong downhill rider (78+) is in tempo, the weak downhill riders can be dropped.
Last edited by Lizard on Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wizards Cycling: De toenemende Ster van Amsterdam

Hall of Fame:
Adam Wollfinger (73-82-80-47-57, 64 Reg)
Herbert Königsbauer (87-60-66-54-53, 57 Reg)
Manuel Clausen (76-83-63-46-64, 57 Reg)
Tom van Amstel (74-80-74-50-65, 35 Reg)

Luna
Posts: 1764
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Luna » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:09 pm

Pirkio wrote: Didn't understand well the split whit downhill and rain the rest is ok ;)
It's a bit like at a steep climb. If it rains heavily and a strong downhiller sets the pace, then the field falls into peaces. The better downhiller in the first groups and the weaker downhillers get dropped.
But that happens only once in a while .You will experience it sometime.

Cerro Torre RT
Posts: 578
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:44 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Cerro Torre RT » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:11 pm

the weak downhill riders you mean, climbing has nothing to do with that. And if you want to write exactly, the siebing rider does not only need a good downhill value, he too has to be fit.

and Luna, it happens very few. Since I returned last year I never saw any race with a downhill sieb.

User avatar
olmania
Posts: 2642
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by olmania » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:26 pm

and Luna, it happens very few. Since I returned last year I never saw any race with a downhill sieb.
You've to watch my races !
Everbody's os always siebing the OL's leaders in Downhill !
In the past that was for Lhotellerie, SantaCruz or Grandlac. And now, it's for Chellis :(
I hate this downhill rule :evil:

User avatar
NoPikouze
Posts: 2964
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:57 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by NoPikouze » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:28 pm

I like to do them :D
Ok much less since I've a classic rider with 53 downhill...

About the heavy rain, i'm convinced I saw someone say "wow I thought it worked only with heavy rain" after a sieb (with light rain)... Must be my imagination, since I would not question your experience.
Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...

Luna
Posts: 1764
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Luna » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:33 pm

Maybe the weather changed to 3 rain drops exactly the km of the selection after a long period of 2 rain drops.
Or maybe it was only a rider with 45 downhill and 50 energy who got lost. Might be that those guys would get dropped even under 2 rain drops.

User avatar
olmania
Posts: 2642
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by olmania » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:14 pm

olmania wrote:
and Luna, it happens very few. Since I returned last year I never saw any race with a downhill sieb.
You've to watch my races !
Everbody's os always siebing the OL's leaders in Downhill !
In the past that was for Lhotellerie, SantaCruz or Grandlac. And now, it's for Chellis :(
I hate this downhill rule :evil:
Today 19h JuraTour, -12% !
And sure, Chellis siebed :lol:

Zauberlehrling
Posts: 290
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Zauberlehrling » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:02 pm

Tour du Jura, 21h: Tazman twice siebed away downhill ;)

Elaska
Posts: 663
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:14 am
Contact:

Re: Meteo

Post by Elaska » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:37 pm

NoPikouze wrote:He has a 3D version of the game, I want it too!


The main influence of the weather (meteo) is that riders lose more energy. And with rain you can do downhill siebs.
RSF in 3D ?? :shock:
2024-01-30 Big Donkey Elaska 1 Good move, good reading of the race, just the sprint didn't work out. High quality racing.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 31 guests