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Re: November 2010

Post by lesossies » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:39 am

Luna wrote:East Midlands Classic is a repeat from 27.04.2009. Purposely?
Yes, but it is more than 1 year, no problem I think.

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Re: November 2010

Post by Elaska » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:00 pm

Bolivia and southlan not in the november calendar yet ?
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Re: November 2010

Post by Lizard » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:01 pm

Southland can be seen already in the calender, starting October 31st.
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Re: November 2010

Post by Elaska » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:12 pm

What about BOLIVIA ?
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Re: November 2010

Post by lesossies » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:25 pm

Elaska wrote:What about BOLIVIA ?
No Bolivia parallel to Anden !
Who want to ride in south America in October should ride Anden !
Bolivia maybe later.

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Re: November 2010

Post by Luna » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:01 pm

lesossies wrote:
Luna wrote:East Midlands Classic is a repeat from 27.04.2009. Purposely?
Yes, but it is more than 1 year, no problem I think.
It's a real race, by the way. UCI 1.2. But don't know if they ran it in 2010.

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Re: November 2010

Post by Zentaron » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:20 pm

lesossies wrote:
Elaska wrote:What about BOLIVIA ?
No Bolivia parallel to Anden !
Who want to ride in south America in October should ride Anden !
Bolivia maybe later.

Why? It's a completely other race. Why should i ride Anden with my team, when there is a real alternative like Bolivia? Why should i ride Anden with my team at all? Your "logic" makes no sense. A tour for mountaineous riders, yes, but for teams like mine, no?
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Re: November 2010

Post by auxilium torino » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:21 pm

why not bolivia and ande parallel?
Are very different race!
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Re: November 2010

Post by skull » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:55 pm

you have to read exacly
its not about the character of the bolivia-tour
leso dont like that it takes place in south-america too
keep that in mind for your next arguments ;)

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Luna wrote:East Midlands Classic is a repeat from 27.04.2009. Purposely?
Yes, but it is more than 1 year, no problem I think.
It's a real race, by the way. UCI 1.2. But don't know if they ran it in 2010.
they did
we didnt
maybe we should ride the 2010 version instead of 2009 again
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Re: November 2010

Post by Zentaron » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:59 pm

I see. But it's not logical. It's totally uninteresting, where the race takes part. It's a real race, so why not ride it, when it's ridden in real?
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Re: November 2010

Post by Elaska » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:36 pm

lesossies wrote:
Elaska wrote:What about BOLIVIA ?
No Bolivia parallel to Anden !
Who want to ride in south America in October should ride Anden !
Bolivia maybe later.
I agree with Zentaron and don't really understand you Leso !
so if you don't want to program it parallel to Anden when will you do it ? will be ine November or later ?
And in this case why Southland begin at 31.10 instead of 01.11 ??

This is a big adventage for the climbers teams ! don' like it
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Re: November 2010

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:02 pm

Why not ride Bolivia?

Because it sucks. As simple as that.
We have so many good fantasy tours, why not ride one of those? Bolivia is real and worthless, why ride a real, boring and worthless tour when we have good, fantasy ones?
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Re: November 2010

Post by auxilium torino » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:07 pm

Elaska wrote:
lesossies wrote:
Elaska wrote:What about BOLIVIA ?
No Bolivia parallel to Anden !
Who want to ride in south America in October should ride Anden !
Bolivia maybe later.
I agree with Zentaron and don't really understand you Leso !
so if you don't want to program it parallel to Anden when will you do it ? will be ine November or later ?
And in this case why Southland begin at 31.10 instead of 01.11 ??

This is a big adventage for the climbers teams ! don' like it
I agree too... In europe is winther, and now all important Tour ar race are in S.America or Africa...
And Real is important as Fantasy, for me...
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Re: November 2010

Post by NoPikouze » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:15 pm

Team Franconia wrote:grrrr stop riding real races at another dates... :?
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Re: November 2010

Post by Luna » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:42 pm

skull wrote:
Luna wrote:
lesossies wrote:
Luna wrote:East Midlands Classic is a repeat from 27.04.2009. Purposely?
Yes, but it is more than 1 year, no problem I think.
It's a real race, by the way. UCI 1.2. But don't know if they ran it in 2010.
they did
we didnt
maybe we should ride the 2010 version instead of 2009 again

That would be cool. Do we have the profile?

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Re: November 2010

Post by skull » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:12 pm

thats a good question
i have in mind that OL wanted but if he really did i dont know
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Re: November 2010

Post by Luna » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:38 pm

Took a look at the April thread. There was the speech about it, but it came to nothing.

I haven't found a profile on the race site. Only this route discription -> http://www.cicleclassic.co.uk/route2010.html

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Re: November 2010

Post by lesossies » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:41 pm

OK
Midland out, Cacun in, new real race designed by Aux.
A good race for the teams who want to ride Anden and want to adapt their riders to the SA climatic and time change ;)

To Anden and Bolivia:
I don´t like Bolivia for 2 reasons:
It is in South America like Anden.
It is a little bit too long parallel to Anden.
And Anden is the number one in October !

I´ll probably program 2 little tours parallel to Anden for players who don´t have the time for a 16 days tour. A little 3 days WE-Tour and a 5 days in-the-week-tour but not 100% sure.

I don´t know if I´ll reveal it before the month/Anden begins if I can take a decision before.

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Re: November 2010

Post by Elaska » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:10 am

Can we have the profil for this 2 tours before the end of the mounth for forms ?
And Bolivia for when please ?
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Re: November 2010

Post by Cerro Torre RT » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:33 am

After the Jura, the time bonifications have to be changed back to the old system. I really don't like those 20s for mountain stages and I don't want to have that for the Campeonato.

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Re: November 2010

Post by claw » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:30 am

lesossies wrote: I´ll probably program 2 little tours parallel to Anden for players who don´t have the time for a 16 days tour. A little 3 days WE-Tour and a 5 days in-the-week-tour but not 100% sure.
would be very nice
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Re: November 2010

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:43 pm

lesossies wrote:OK
Midland out, Cacun in, new real race designed by Aux.
A good race for the teams who want to ride Anden and want to adapt their riders to the SA climatic and time change ;)

To Anden and Bolivia:
I don´t like Bolivia for 2 reasons:
It is in South America like Anden.
It is a little bit too long parallel to Anden.
And Anden is the number one in October !

I´ll probably program 2 little tours parallel to Anden for players who don´t have the time for a 16 days tour. A little 3 days WE-Tour and a 5 days in-the-week-tour but not 100% sure.

I don´t know if I´ll reveal it before the month/Anden begins if I can take a decision before.
i don't understand...This is not 'correct,because, in practice, a team who has not suited for the Andes, where only run fantasy races, although there are alternatives, such as Bolivia, etc. ....
this is not good!
you must give at the other team a good alternative races or tour...

Ande is good, but is an extrem fantasy tour...
Bolivia is a real 6 days tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: November 2010

Post by Elaska » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:40 pm

Leso i don't think Bolivia with 6 days is a long parralel tour to Anden ! ;)
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Re: November 2010

Post by Lizard » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:54 pm

leso has a point here. Bolivia and Anden both south american, plus I think Bolivia is a little too long. I think two little tours might be just the right thing. I think a classic one day race week with 2, 3 good hilly races might also fit into the alternative to Anden.
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Re: November 2010

Post by lesossies » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:42 pm

Elaska wrote:Leso i don't think Bolivia with 6 days is a long parralel tour to Anden ! ;)
8 days from 7.11-15.11...... 10 stages

With 6 days, maybe I would have accepted it.
I have proposed to short it, If I correct remember, but it would not be accepted.

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