Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by olmania » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:43 pm

I have the right to do my vote too I Think, so ... :D

DAY1 : B
DAY2 : B
DAY3 : B
DAY4 : B
DAY5 : A
DAY6 : C
Riposo !
DAY7 : A
DAY8 : B
DAY9 : C
DAY10 : A
DAY11 : A
DAY12 : A

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by skull » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:05 pm

DAY1 : A
DAY2 : A
DAY3 : B
DAY4 : A
DAY5 : A
DAY6 : A
Riposo !
DAY7 : B
DAY8 : B
DAY9 : A
DAY10 : A
DAY11 : B
DAY12 : C
You know you love me.

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by gaurain rx » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:02 am

Here is Gaurain's voting.

Stage 1 : C
Stage 2 : A
Stage 3 : B

First explanation... This 3 stages choice to have a good fight for stage and then Gk between the hugelsprints team and the sprintteams... Think it can make the race really funny!

Stage 4 : A (A default choice).
Stage 5 : B (not sure at all, if for escapers, then it's good)
Stage 6 : C (one time trial is enough)
Stage 7 : B (I really like it's design)
Stage 8 : B (should be something for the escaper)
Stage 9 : A (three hard days then, maybe better to keep the teams fresh)
Stage 10 : B

Stage 11 : B
Stage 12 : C

Forced choice here. Choosing the TTT after the hill stage wouldn't be that good cause I think nobody will want to open the fire too much if there is a TTT the next day! So, better to have a TT. There the leaders with the best reg will have a real advantage. so stage B better than A for stage 11 cause harder one and maybe there the team can make the difference. If you put stage 12 before stage 11 I would have choose D for 12!

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Bear » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:05 am

olmania wrote:I have the right to do my vote too I Think, so ... :D

DAY1 : B
DAY2 : B
DAY3 : B
DAY4 : B
DAY5 : A
DAY6 : C
Riposo !
DAY7 : A
DAY8 : B
DAY9 : C
DAY10 : A
DAY11 : A
DAY12 : A
I prefer this combination. 100% Olmania :)

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Amor lux » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:05 pm

1: a
2: b
3:a
4:a
5:a
6:a

7:b
8:b
9:c
10:b
11:b
12:c

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by L RSV » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:27 pm

when is the end?

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by olmania » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:23 pm

L RSV wrote:when is the end?
Soon ... because only few votes here, and no new votes ...
I will put the link everywhere on RSF one time again and then ... finished

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by ByZickl » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:18 pm

1 D
2 A
3 B
4 B
5 A
6 A
7 B
8 B
9 C
10 B
11 B
12 A

Great work

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Falkenbier » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:06 pm

voilà les votes du faucon ;)

1 B
2 B
3 A
4 B
5 A
6 C
7 A
8 B
9 A
10 A
11 A
12 B

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by olmania » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:47 pm

I will close it this evening I think, last chance to vote !

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Aixteam » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:39 pm

1C
2B
3B
4A
5B
6C

Riposo

7B
8B
9B
10A
11B
12D

Aix's vote is there !
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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Team Australia » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:19 pm

Good idea, great work!

1b
2b
3b
4a
5b
6c
7a
8b
9a
10b
11b
12c

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Cerro Torre RT » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:41 pm

I am sorry i have to tell that, but i have to conclude: experiment failed. In my eyes the chosen tour is much to hard, and no time trail in it is not that good either. You should think of taking a look to determine another winner: The proposed tour that has the most stages in common with the voted one wins.

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by GengisKhan » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:43 pm

I agree, maybe it would have been better to modulate the result with the number of each kind of stages you wanted, and keep for example the 2 most rated TT, 2 or 3 most rated HC etc...

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by NoPikouze » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:53 pm

I like the result.
Not all the stage are as hard as they look, if they is only on 5% in the last hill for example...
Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by olmania » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:19 am

NoPikouze wrote:I like the result.
Not all the stage are as hard as they look, if they is only on 5% in the last hill for example...
He's right, this tour is not so hard. Sur 2 very hard stages, but looks Ok.
Then, no ITT or TTT, I'm a bit surprise about that, but it's because everybody voted for different ITT or TTT proposed, so all o them had some votes, but not enough to win their day.
And a tour, without ITT or TTT is not a problem I think, there are so many tours for TT guys, and sometimes the GT's are open for TT guys, so that's not a big problem. And if a lot of managers did their votes without ITT/TTT or with only one ITT/TTT, it means that they don't want it ...

And the final tour is interesting because there are 3-4stages Really Open ! Really !

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Zentaron » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:47 pm

I think Cerro is right. With only 2 full and two half sprint stages you will maybe have less sprinter teams in your tour.
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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by olmania » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:04 pm

Zentaron wrote:I think Cerro is right. With only 2 full and two half sprint stages you will maybe have less sprinter teams in your tour.
5stages are possible for massiv sprints if you have not a guy like callado with a strong team in your group ! ;)
5/12, not so bad.

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Zentaron » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:32 pm

1 and 5 for sure.
6 maybe, but should be hard if there is only one good hill sprinter team.
12 maybe, but i'm not convinced, because there is no flat after the 5.
Where is the fifth?
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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by el Galactico » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:53 pm

Callado!!!

If you dont like the tour then dont vote it. Mine is maybe not much better for sprinters? We will see if enough people like it or not?
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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by olmania » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:30 pm

Zentaron wrote:1 and 5 for sure.
6 maybe, but should be hard if there is only one good hill sprinter team.
12 maybe, but i'm not convinced, because there is no flat after the 5.
Where is the fifth?
Stage 2 (possible with a fresh and strong team)
Stage 3 ;)

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:33 pm

Pah, and then you want me to critizice your tour? Pff, I say everybody should just say what they think! Zentaron thinks not enough sprint, no problem with saying it.

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Re: Make your own DecemberTour with Olmania !

Post by Zentaron » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:41 pm

2? I think not.
3? Only with at least 3 good sprint teams which take a classic rider in their line-up and share the work at the long climb. And against only one good hill sprinter team they are chanceless.

But okay, i add another half stage. So i am at 3,5 sprint stages. Sounds better.^^
And yes, i don't have to vote the tour if i don't want. I would have only noted, that i think like Cerro, that the tour at whole became too hard at all.
And some sprinter teams never endamage a tour. I really would like to ride your tour, because i appreciate your work. And i like challenges, but with few help my goal (and every tour my goal is the same - achieving the points jersey :D) seems far far away.
Just my two pennies worth.
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