Defamatory comments Flandrien

[flockmastoR]

There were already some chat fights before but I will not allow Flandrien to state something like that unchallenged.

Flandrien(17:45): Im talking about WZRV, that from the train, I just repeated him from his message to me “I am now on the train, if I could, I would have pulled you under”
Tukhtahuaev(17:02): Just report it then. But what does Cost have to do with that?
Flandrien(17:00): Getting death threats and stalking from WZRV on discord is okay then? If something has to be reported..

It's mainly about Flandrien, but the reaction of Tukh is defamatory as well, not questioning the content and encourage him in his unfound accusation against me.

The whole chat is still available. Won't hightlight anything. There are ongoing provocations from both sides.

[Flandrien]

That was a reply to the private message you sent me on Discord telling me to jump under a train, wich you deleted now I see, smart move. Why not telling the whole story? You are lying once again, which, incidentally, no longer surprises me. You’re trying to get everyone involved again, Tuk has nothing to do with this. Maybe show your private messages to expose yourself if you got the balls.

[team fl]

Chat from the stage today for the protocol:

Team Bubendorf(17:50): i m always on the train, but i had to transfer in Mannheim. In the train i can play at my laptop, But at the Centrak station i only can look with the handy
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(17:46): “I am now on the train, if I could, I would have pulled you under” where did I message that, you are simply lying
Flandrien(17:46): Right after I blocked him.
Flandrien(17:45): Im talking about WZRV, that from the train, I just repeated him from his message to me “I am now on the train, if I could, I would have pulled you under”
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(17:43): tukh fuck yourself really for your comment
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(17:41): you also repeated it here
RC Cost(17:40): I guess you have your opinion of me from the dscord. Have no other explanation. So cant be that nice, talking about somebody who isnt there
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(17:39): death threats from me? now you crossing a line. you were the one that told me to kill myself there.
Flandrien(17:23): The discord group is quite nice, but the threats he is able to send in private there, even when the race was still busy
RC Cost(17:16): IMO discord is not good for this game. Toxic as hell, thats why I am not active there
Tukhtahuaev(17:02): Just report it then. But what does Cost have to do with that?
Flandrien(17:00): Getting death threats and stalking from WZRV on discord is okay then? If something has to be reported..
Flandrien(16:49): Go ahead.
RC Cost(16:45): Normally you should be reported for today. If you werent so irrelevant and if your aggression wouldnt be fun in some way, I would do it
Flandrien(16:42): You are not even better Donks, thats the thing
Big Donkey(16:41): That's the thing though, seems an interesting learning experience for many, including WZF. You say enough shit, at some point doesn't matter if you said it lately or not, you're getting shit back. Deal with it.
Flandrien(16:40): First
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:40): better stop saying things so
Flandrien(16:39): I was not the one talking bullshit today, didnt hardly even say a word the last 3 days
Big Donkey(16:39): Like an adult is very wide, from a 20 year old to a 97 year old with dementia, it's all different.
Tukhtahuaev(16:39): Poitrenaud just too weak to follow those guys
Big Donkey(16:39): But didn't think there would be much to block, hoped to follow Abdurashitov though...
RC Cost(16:38): What exactly have I done to you so bad Flandrien? You are able to answer like an adult?
Big Donkey(16:38): I was planning to block only the 10
Tukhtahuaev(16:38): But of course I can't just expect others to do it when I don't want to do it myself
Tukhtahuaev(16:38): I really hoped Iskanderov either goes himself or blocks this km
Big Donkey(16:37): But ok, if somebody like Super Iskanderov, who then probably had Poitrenaud and Meeus on the wheel follows it's no good either.
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:37): Flandrien is a philosopher
Team Bubendorf(16:36): thx
Big Donkey(16:36): Hm, for stage maybe just Bondarew attacking better for SWP?
Team FL(16:36): GW Richard again! Have a nice Saturday night everybody! See you tomorrow for the week 2 showdown
Flandrien(16:36): You should not even exist, taking the Freak too literally
Big Donkey(16:35): At least Arjen is behind... Anyway, GW, Donks running closer to the TV!
Tukhtahuaev(16:35): What a great sprint for an totally irrelevant P4 from Poitrenaud
Big Donkey(16:35): This Poitrenaud,, grrr, always beate me too
Big Donkey(16:34): It's just "not being pathetic over a game"
Big Donkey(16:34): Why?
RC Cost(16:34): True I am so confused about his words that I lost my language:D „jump under a train“ such person should be banned straight and forever
Team FL(16:33): manni a baddie too
Team FL(16:33): ah, now I missed to sprint at 150m
Team FL(16:32): all baddies
Big Donkey(16:32): The correct word is "worse" not badder.
Flandrien(16:31): I laugh with how pathetic you guys are over a game tbh
RC Cost(16:31): Wow you are a even bader person than I thought
Big Donkey(16:31): Who are you even lol. Did you laugh out loud because you realized how ridiculous the question was?
Big Donkey(16:30): FL is FL, it's a really strange question.
Big Donkey(16:30): Cost is Cost
Big Donkey(16:30): Who?
Flandrien(16:30): Who are you even lol
Team FL(16:30): ah, that's the level I was looking for.
RC Cost(16:29): I dont really care anymore about this uninteresting guy. Just wanted to tell donks its senseless to comunicate with him
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:29): thats how adults talk, sure
Flandrien(16:29): Just jump under a train fr
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:29): You are the guy having fleas
Team FL(16:29): Also well done by SWP, again.... booooooring!!! start to make mistakes
Team FL(16:28): Well done
Team FL(16:28): GW Richard btw!
Flandrien(16:28): Cost and WZR why do you two not sleep in the same bed? If you girls alreade arent ofc
RC Cost(16:27): Gw
Team FL(16:27): Anyway, not my fight. you "guys" are adult enough to do it yourself. I watch and enjoy the entertainment.
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:27): If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas
Tukhtahuaev(16:27): Gw
Flandrien(16:27): Gw Bub!
Team Bubendorf(16:27): thx
Team FL(16:27):
Team FL(16:27): no no, but now not
Team FL(16:26): no guys.
Big Donkey(16:26): GW Anders
Flandrien(16:26): Well thats your opinion Donks
Quickstep(16:26): gw
RC Cost(16:26): Guys? Guy please:D
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:26): gw
Big Donkey(16:26): Here you're just sabotaging yourself by not riding
Team FL(16:25): ah come on, why you guys so thin skinned.
Flandrien(16:25): Says the one who is already a long lost case haha
RC Cost(16:24): Give up with Flandrien donkey. No hope for him anymore
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:24): I take the train
Team FL(16:24):
Team FL(16:24): not not, but now
Team FL(16:23): now
Team FL(16:23): Guido and Johann may rest not. Manni Tlaloc and Hugo take over
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:22): Its the team spirit
Big Donkey(16:22): Meeus of course is sucking for no reason at all...
SouthWest Packers(16:22): Tomorrow Its your Turn again
Team FL(16:21): well then here we go
Quickstep(16:21): okay wiener
Team FL(16:21): :d
Team FL(16:21): or not...
Team FL(16:21): Steingrimur saved the gruppetto from autotempo.
Big Donkey(16:21): Ok, let's not ride at all then
RC Cost(16:21): Fight hard I join in 2 km
SouthWest Packers(16:20): Early Form helps Here
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:20): wont sprint in that group Quick, but will save my energy
Big Donkey(16:20): Now Dong Thong and Meeus can join.
SouthWest Packers(16:20): Gw Bubi
Team FL(16:20): thanks
Team FL(16:19): Manni will ride from km 150 anyway.
Team FL(16:19): with Hugo
Team FL(16:19): ECS please don't sieb Felikss
Tukhtahuaev(16:18): Just should have attacked yourself
Big Donkey(16:18): Should have stayed on Bondareeew
Quickstep(16:17): thank you from you too, nice work
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:17): nice try Quick!
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:15): maybe normal tempo now?
Team FL(16:10): good cooperation again
Tukhtahuaev(16:09): Gruppetto looking quite safe from significant auto tempo even
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:08): try red
Quickstep(16:08): you mean blue or read shared?
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:08): then try just together and shared
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:07): shared will work for +7 I guess, +9, +10 maybe some serious fighting
Quickstep(16:07): buchwald has more energy at moment
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:07): you decide, you know his and guidos energy
Quickstep(16:07): or he rides the uphill blue first?
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(16:06): dont know about the energy of Baudoin, but maybe add him too later to not sieb us on the steep climb?
Big Donkey(16:06): Chance was SWP stopping .....
Tukhtahuaev(16:06): Teixeira and Grala still fit
Tukhtahuaev(16:05): I don't really see that chance here
SouthWest Packers(16:05): Did the start now He does for Stage
Quickstep(16:04): there is a chance to beat SWP and then comes Bubendorf
Team FL(16:01): gruppetto tempo again from km 126?
Quickstep(16:00): yes
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:59): flat together with buchwald and hölzel?
Team FL(15:59): Raimo now too
Big Donkey(15:58): Wüthrich back out since there's a climb coming.
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:57): haha
Flandrien(15:57): WZRV, now you send me in private that I am a sucker and cheater? Pls behave a bit
Flandrien(15:53): I am, trying at least
Big Donkey(15:52): Flandrien is going for the team polka dot jersey it seems...
Flandrien(15:50): Hahahaha
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:50): you are
Flandrien(15:50): We start complaining again? You gonna tell V.Paret-Peintre he is sucking as well?
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:49): Crazy Vikings style
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:48): Just try some attack some day in the future with me
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:48): I mean I could understand the Skoglund tempo there but sorensen was just a sucker move
Team FL(15:45): yep
Big Donkey(15:44): If we restart at 95 should still be all ok
Big Donkey(15:44): Now that he's there he can stop tempo as well
Team FL(15:44): in the gruppetto
Team FL(15:43): uphill red. green is like no tempo at that energy level
Quickstep(15:43): what happened ?
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:43): Arre to join?
ECS Cycling(15:43): okay
Team FL(15:42): Veloso keeps riding uphill? Then out at km 95, rest then takes over
RC Cost(15:39): Sorry sorry, Not really focused today
Big Donkey(15:39): Back in at 95
Team FL(15:39): Tukhtahuaev
Team FL(15:38): RC Cost and Tukhtahauev
Big Donkey(15:38): Ok, now he's riding, and red, cool
Team FL(15:38): Veloso on, please wait in the Gruppetto then
Team FL(15:37): Hiroshi seems to have a gudge against Thomas
Big Donkey(15:37): Ok, I'm back out
Big Donkey(15:37): Then I', back in
Gipfelstuermer(15:37): not too long though probably
Gipfelstuermer(15:37): we can wait a little bit
Gipfelstuermer(15:37): oh
Team FL(15:36): ECS off... ufff
Team FL(15:36): ride with him, we wait
Big Donkey(15:36): Oh, I wait for Veloso then
Team FL(15:36): ECS Cycling, Veloso is dropped
Big Donkey(15:35): You can delay it quite far I think, saving the first group over this, hoping others help too, to then go up here faster would have made sense, meet the early group now...
Tukhtahuaev(15:35): Veloso dropped
SouthWest Packers(15:35): Wrong Riders WZF sry
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:34): looks like an early catch
Team FL(15:32):
Big Donkey(15:32): The japanase of Paret Peintre is .....weird. Balentan Palepantra
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:31): think you are faster alone uphill, lets see who of my riders stay
Big Donkey(15:30): It's the uncontrollable anger that made me mis-type.
Big Donkey(15:30): PELOTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Team FL(15:30):
Team FL(15:30): Pelotin is new
Big Donkey(15:30): PELOTON
Big Donkey(15:30): Ups
Team FL(15:30): ice coffee, good idea
Big Donkey(15:30): IT'S PELOTIN
Quickstep(15:30): maybe i use Fichtner or arre i dont know how fast the pelOton will ride behind
Big Donkey(15:30): Just that Wüthrich being an aution rider was bought for 95%!
Big Donkey(15:29): (But hadn't seen that he's 21 too, they really are almost the same)
Big Donkey(15:28): Martin is almost insulted that a guy like Hung Cung wants to ride with him... a puller thinking he's the equal of a leader, pff
Gipfelstuermer(15:28): And Quickstep should change name back to Milram. There are to many quicks in this game.
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:28): quick you have the better mountain skills here, how should we continue?
Gipfelstuermer(15:28): Instead of Iced Coffee
Big Donkey(15:27): But correctly a purple martin
Gipfelstuermer(15:27): Blue Martini
Big Donkey(15:27): Ah, a swallow
Big Donkey(15:27): Is "Blue Martin" something?
Gipfelstuermer(15:26): Should really change team name
Gipfelstuermer(15:24): no GT stage winner in my whole team = cannon fodder
Team FL(15:24): we love us a blue martin
Big Donkey(15:23): stage
Big Donkey(15:23): He's a TdF stag winner after all.
Big Donkey(15:23): Wüthrich being simply better than most of you weaklings goes blue
Team FL(15:21): the more the merrier, the less energy we need
Team FL(15:21): Raimo is in
Team FL(15:21): green at the moment looks good too
Big Donkey(15:21): Why use Schwarz there... if anything you should have ridden in front to bring Arre over the next mountain, go up that mountain faster in the back then.
Team FL(15:21): Gruppetto: I'd say downhill red, uphill red with weak or no tempo
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:20): mate would be help quick
Tukhtahuaev(15:20): Probably true for all but Hölzel and Buchwald
Big Donkey(15:20): Quickstep is pissing me off.
Team FL(15:20): if all wait for Hölzel and Buchwald...
Team FL(15:20): looks like it
Gipfelstuermer(15:20): cannon fodder
Team FL(15:19): Ricardo only there to be annyoing himself
Team FL(15:19): that's too annoying for me
Team FL(15:19): i am out in front
Big Donkey(15:18): But going green there not clever
Big Donkey(15:18): I was waiting for Veloso...
Team FL(15:18): really nice
Team FL(15:18): nice
Team FL(15:17): nobody interested?
Team FL(15:16): we need to go red in group one.
Team FL(15:16): Thomas Veloso, ECS Cycling
Team FL(15:15): gruppetto
Big Donkey(15:15): Was tempted to hang Iskanderov there...
Team FL(15:13): .)
Team FL(15:13): bunch sprint today?
Team Bubendorf(15:13): i m on the train, very difficult
Big Donkey(15:12): Hm, thought would be Bubendorf show from the start, should have joined the escape
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:11): flandrien you plan to ride with one of your 3 riders?
Team FL(15:08): dammit, why is Rocha riding
Team FL(15:07): around 30, yes.
Big Donkey(15:06): I kicked Healy, and right behind is too far behind for me, 30 something seconds, right?
Team FL(15:06): griasdi
SouthWest Packers(15:05): Servus
Team FL(15:05): and they're just right behind the front grup
Team FL(15:05): Healy is there
Big Donkey(15:04): I feel insulted by Castrillo and Rubio managing to not be there.... grrr. My teamtoto...
Team FL(15:03): it looks like it's family day at the TdF today. Johannessen and Paret-Peintre
Big Donkey(15:03): I thought it was 12, so was sure there was nothing happening until then. Turns out it's 13, so ok, was less sure!
Team FL(15:02): sure, it's kind of inviting at km 13.
Big Donkey(15:02): Well, it's really something we could have guessed...
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:01): cannot fight sec tricks on my mobile
Gipfelstuermer(15:01): Sorry @Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV and @enzano veloclub
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(15:01): I want a stage win. where can I get it?
Team FL(15:00): you could just write that you want the IS. would save everybody time and energy
Gipfelstuermer(14:59): Bonjour
Flandrien(14:59): Hi
Big Donkey(14:58): Hi
ECS Cycling(14:58): hi
Team FL(14:56): and: the contrast of a long song for a relatively short stage
Team FL(14:56): I think it captures (!) this moment perfectly.
Team FL(14:55): Something more meditative for today, starting the mountainous weekend: https://youtu.be/Vo73AyUfVz0?si=jdB2t6DGdFP-EOad
Tukhtahuaev(14:55): Hello
Team Bubendorf(14:48): hi
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(14:46): hello
Quickstep(14:44): hi
Team FL(14:42): Hi everybody

[flockmastoR]

That was a reply to the private message you sent me on Discord telling me to jump under a train, wich you deleted now I see, smart move. Why not telling the whole story? You are lying once again, which, incidentally, no longer surprises me. You’re trying to get everyone involved again, Tuk has nothing to do with this. Maybe show your private messages to expose yourself if you got the balls.

There was no such message and you are simply making up stuff. I have our full conversation screenshoted. You are the one telling me to "just kys" then you blocked me. And in the chat you tell me "Just jump under a train fr". Also the conversation was started by you with "So you want a real fight piece of scum? I hope you enjoy the 15 coming days, i will have a lot of fun at last, enjoy".

You have some serious problems but I am not your punching ball. And tuk can defend himself. He doesn't need you to do it.

I can share the PM conversation with the fpc but I think when you accuse me of such a thing, you should be the one to prove it.

[Flandrien]

Full conversation? Also all the messages you deleted? You are so pathetic.. Definition of a loser who needs attention all the time. Perhaps others whom you humiliated might have something to say as well. Before you ruined the experience, I had with no one even a small problem. You, on the other hand, with more than half of RSF. I blocked you because of the continue stalking and threats on Discord. Since when is KYS (Keep Yourself Safe) even a threat? Anyway I have problems yes, with you. For all the lying, threatening and stalking.

[Berlin Marks]

Full conversation? Also all the messages you deleted? You are so pathetic.. Definition of a loser who needs attention all the time. Perhaps others whom you humiliated might have something to say as well. Before you ruined the experience, I had with no one even a small problem. You, on the other hand, with more than half of RSF. I blocked you because of the continue stalking and threats on Discord. Since when is KYS (Keep Yourself Safe) even a threat? Anyway I have problems yes, with you. For all the lying, threatening and stalking.

Since you are pretty much in love with taking screenshots, you have evidence for your big accusations I think? (:

[Radunion]

Keep in mind the FPC can only rule on the evidenced given. Hinting there is more without evidence will not strengthen your case.

[flockmastoR]

Flandrien(18:05): Enough is enough. I started this game just for fun. Receiving death threats during the race from WZRV on Discord, simply because I’m not driving the way he wants me to, has been the last straw. I hope something is done about this in future, to deal with people like this. For my own peace of mind, I’m going to stop playing the game because of these threats and for my own safety

He also repeated his false defamatory accusations in the main chat.

[Flandrien]

Full conversation? Also all the messages you deleted? You are so pathetic.. Definition of a loser who needs attention all the time. Perhaps others whom you humiliated might have something to say as well. Before you ruined the experience, I had with no one even a small problem. You, on the other hand, with more than half of RSF. I blocked you because of the continue stalking and threats on Discord. Since when is KYS (Keep Yourself Safe) even a threat? Anyway I have problems yes, with you. For all the lying, threatening and stalking.

Since you are pretty much in love with taking screenshots, you have evidence for your big accusations I think? (:

Shall I share the evidence with everyone, about your multi-account? And your little plans to obstruct NBeullens’ Tour de France participation using your multi-account, if he were meant to get him relegated back to Division 6?

[schappy]

We all will love to see the evidence you have.

[Flandrien]

We all will love to see the evidence you have.

The evidence that needs to be shared, has been shared with the Admins.

[schappy]

We all will love to see the evidence you have.

The evidence that needs to be shared, has been shared with the Admins.

Okay, maybe you should ssay this two posts before insted of ask if you should share the evidence.

[Flandrien]

Flandrien(18:05): Enough is enough. I started this game just for fun. Receiving death threats during the race from WZRV on Discord, simply because I’m not driving the way he wants me to, has been the last straw. I hope something is done about this in future, to deal with people like this. For my own peace of mind, I’m going to stop playing the game because of these threats and for my own safety

He also repeated his false defamatory accusations in the main chat.

I’ll respond to this one more time and then leave it at that, and let the FPC decide what they want to do. We’d already had a heated discussion, but we’d sorted it out three days earlier. I said I’d keep quiet and hardly say anything in the chat. It was all good between us. Till the race yesterday when you send me the message on discord "Sucker and cheater, great combination" When I pointed out to you that you’d sent that in the race chat, your response was HAHA. After which, a short while later, you messaged on Discord again with the threats. I wanted to take a screenshot of this, but you’d quickly deleted it again. So it’s one person’s word against another’s. And since you’re an Admin and I’ve only been playing the game for three months, with some difficulty, I suppose you’ll have the final say, what I don’t think is fair. I’ve struggled with being bullied in the past and have received threats, so naturally I take it to heart. That’s why I overreacted and was rude right after. But that’s no excuse for your actions. I said earlier that I wanted to quit, but I enjoy the game too much to let someone else make me stop, which is why I’m still playing. I hope the FPC won’t let your actions go unpunished either, because this is more than just saying something rude.

Best regards, Flandrien

[NBeullens]

About them wanting to obstruct my plans if i went to Div6

The Beullenscycling guys have showed up in a pretty competitive Group 1 Tour and showed that they more than belong. After 15 stages and 2 restdays they still scored the most points of all teams which shows the incredible consistency to get results by our guys. The future of the team is still being built on the back of Kalip and Junior so i would have never sold them to go down to DIV6 and who doesn't love Dwaekki?

[flockmastoR]

Flandrien(18:05): Enough is enough. I started this game just for fun. Receiving death threats during the race from WZRV on Discord, simply because I’m not driving the way he wants me to, has been the last straw. I hope something is done about this in future, to deal with people like this. For my own peace of mind, I’m going to stop playing the game because of these threats and for my own safety

He also repeated his false defamatory accusations in the main chat.

I’ll respond to this one more time and then leave it at that, and let the FPC decide what they want to do. We’d already had a heated discussion, but we’d sorted it out three days earlier. I said I’d keep quiet and hardly say anything in the chat. It was all good between us. Till the race yesterday when you send me the message on discord "Sucker and cheater, great combination" When I pointed out to you that you’d sent that in the race chat, your response was HAHA. After which, a short while later, you messaged on Discord again with the threats. I wanted to take a screenshot of this, but you’d quickly deleted it again. So it’s one person’s word against another’s. And since you’re an Admin and I’ve only been playing the game for three months, with some difficulty, I suppose you’ll have the final say, what I don’t think is fair. I’ve struggled with being bullied in the past and have received threats, so naturally I take it to heart. That’s why I overreacted and was rude right after. But that’s no excuse for your actions. I said earlier that I wanted to quit, but I enjoy the game too much to let someone else make me stop, which is why I’m still playing. I hope the FPC won’t let your actions go unpunished either, because this is more than just saying something rude.

Best regards, Flandrien

You are simply making stuff up in your defamation campaign against me. I never deleted any message between us but you throw dirt and hope that something sticks to me. You spread lies and then tell you need to quit because of my "death threats" that just exist in your immagination. I don't say that I didn't use the chat or the Discord to provoke you but even here you are not fully reflecting the truth.

I was the one who took a step toward you right after you called me a “piece of scum.” and yes after some discussion we agreed on peace but that doesn't mean that I will not call a sucker move as it is. Live with it or do whatever you want with it, insult me, fair enough, but spreading lies that I threaten you is simply another level. You just went crazy that you revealed that you are a cheater yourself in the chat. You blocked me already at 16:05 right after you wrote "Just kys" (I expect it should mean just kill yourself after I was making fun of you there that you are so stupid to reveal that you are a cheater) then in the race chat the provocations continue from your side as well.

Flandrien(16:36): You should not even exist, taking the Freak too literally
Flandrien(16:31): I laugh with how pathetic you guys are over a game tbh
Flandrien(16:30): Who are you even lol
Flandrien(16:29): Just jump under a train fr
Flandrien(16:28): Cost and WZR why do you two not sleep in the same bed? If you girls alreade arent ofc

So you were still in rage mode until 16:36 at least then suddenly things changed and you were frightened by my "death threats"

Flandrien(17:00): Getting death threats and stalking from WZRV on discord is okay then? If something has to be reported..

and hour after you blocked me there and when you continued still with your rage? Who should believe a word you say? This simply doesn't make sense.

The more logical chain of events would be the following:

You continue the provocations in the FP comments after the race (16:30)

2026-07-18 Flandrien Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV -3 Parasite!

I answer with a provocation including your hero Falcor

2026-07-18 Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV Flandrien -3 Falcor's baby troll

and then you totally go nuts and invent the "victim of a death threat" story. And you already prepare the victim of the Admin power fairytale.

All the details I write here I have evidence for. Just the last paragraph contains interpretation of WHY you actually started your fairytales, but I think it is a credible interpretation.

If it was not clear enough, I ask the FPC to take action and stop you from spreading lies about being a victim of death threats. Its a hard accusation and people were being banned temporary here for doing such things.

[Falcor CC]

I answer with a provocation including your hero Falcor

Big man you are

[Flandrien]

Flandrien(18:05): Enough is enough. I started this game just for fun. Receiving death threats during the race from WZRV on Discord, simply because I’m not driving the way he wants me to, has been the last straw. I hope something is done about this in future, to deal with people like this. For my own peace of mind, I’m going to stop playing the game because of these threats and for my own safety

He also repeated his false defamatory accusations in the main chat.

I’ll respond to this one more time and then leave it at that, and let the FPC decide what they want to do. We’d already had a heated discussion, but we’d sorted it out three days earlier. I said I’d keep quiet and hardly say anything in the chat. It was all good between us. Till the race yesterday when you send me the message on discord "Sucker and cheater, great combination" When I pointed out to you that you’d sent that in the race chat, your response was HAHA. After which, a short while later, you messaged on Discord again with the threats. I wanted to take a screenshot of this, but you’d quickly deleted it again. So it’s one person’s word against another’s. And since you’re an Admin and I’ve only been playing the game for three months, with some difficulty, I suppose you’ll have the final say, what I don’t think is fair. I’ve struggled with being bullied in the past and have received threats, so naturally I take it to heart. That’s why I overreacted and was rude right after. But that’s no excuse for your actions. I said earlier that I wanted to quit, but I enjoy the game too much to let someone else make me stop, which is why I’m still playing. I hope the FPC won’t let your actions go unpunished either, because this is more than just saying something rude.

Best regards, Flandrien

You are simply making stuff up in your defamation campaign against me. I never deleted any message between us but you throw dirt and hope that something sticks to me. You spread lies and then tell you need to quit because of my "death threats" that just exist in your immagination. I don't say that I didn't use the chat or the Discord to provoke you but even here you are not fully reflecting the truth.

I was the one who took a step toward you right after you called me a “piece of scum.” and yes after some discussion we agreed on peace but that doesn't mean that I will not call a sucker move as it is. Live with it or do whatever you want with it, insult me, fair enough, but spreading lies that I threaten you is simply another level. You just went crazy that you revealed that you are a cheater yourself in the chat. You blocked me already at 16:05 right after you wrote "Just kys" (I expect it should mean just kill yourself after I was making fun of you there that you are so stupid to reveal that you are a cheater) then in the race chat the provocations continue from your side as well.

Flandrien(16:36): You should not even exist, taking the Freak too literally
Flandrien(16:31): I laugh with how pathetic you guys are over a game tbh
Flandrien(16:30): Who are you even lol
Flandrien(16:29): Just jump under a train fr
Flandrien(16:28): Cost and WZR why do you two not sleep in the same bed? If you girls alreade arent ofc

So you were still in rage mode until 16:36 at least then suddenly things changed and you were frightened by my "death threats"

Flandrien(17:00): Getting death threats and stalking from WZRV on discord is okay then? If something has to be reported..

and hour after you blocked me there and when you continued still with your rage? Who should believe a word you say? This simply doesn't make sense.

The more logical chain of events would be the following:

You continue the provocations in the FP comments after the race (16:30)

2026-07-18 Flandrien Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV -3 Parasite!

I answer with a provocation including your hero Falcor

2026-07-18 Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV Flandrien -3 Falcor's baby troll

and then you totally go nuts and invent the "victim of a death threat" story. And you already prepare the victim of the Admin power fairytale.

All the details I write here I have evidence for. Just the last paragraph contains interpretation of WHY you actually started your fairytales, but I think it is a credible interpretation.

If it was not clear enough, I ask the FPC to take action and stop you from spreading lies about being a victim of death threats. Its a hard accusation and people were being banned temporary here for doing such things.

You're really not right in the head. Why would I even lie about things like that? Just be honest and admit that you did this. You want to put yourself in the right light to completely turn the victim role on its head, even though most people know exactly what sort of person you really are. This is just awful and it makes me want to throw up. It’s true that I said some harsh things three days ago, and those things, that’s the truth , and you’re making that clear once again.

Flandrien(16:29): Just jump under a train fr. This is what you sent me, and I wrote it in the chat to confront you about it, don’t turn the tables just to set yourself right again. You’re even dragging other members into it, how pathetic are you?

You really are a terrible person who isn’t of sound mind and sick in the head. Seek help or let someone help you. But don’t go around threatening to make someone feel bad. I can’t understand how this can go unpunished. And ask FPC to do something about this.

[Tukhtahuaev]

I just want to say that my comment was in no way meant as defamation towards Wiener Zentralfriedhof or as support to Flandrien. I simply meant that Flandrien should go through the official channels for such a claim instead of just writing an accusation like that in the chat without any further proof.

[flockmastoR]

I just want to say that my comment was in no way meant as defamation towards Wiener Zentralfriedhof or as support to Flandrien. I simply meant that Flandrien should go through the official channels for such a claim instead of just writing an accusation like that in the chat without any further proof.

Thanks for your response and sorry for my thin-skinned reaction in the chat and bad language.

[Quick]

Guys, help me catch up real quick. I'm still in comeback-mode and haven't quite got the overview I used to.

So WZV is talking shit. Flandrien is talking shit. One started, nobody cares who but obviously we're all a bit aggravated by now and things escalate. There are deaththreats or maybe not. We don't know cause it's word against word BUT there are screenshots. Submitted to the admins supposedly. Anyway. you guys continue to shittalk each other here. Someone is obviously lying but you both seem fine by it because you could just post the screenshots and have undisputable proof..

So at this point I can only guess you do this publically for our entertainment and wanted to check in to let you know, I am.

[NBeullens]

Guys, help me catch up real quick. I'm still in comeback-mode and haven't quite got the overview I used to.

So WZV is talking shit. Flandrien is talking shit. One started, nobody cares who but obviously we're all a bit aggravated by now and things escalate. There are deaththreats or maybe not. We don't know cause it's word against word BUT there are screenshots. Submitted to the admins supposedly. Anyway. you guys continue to shittalk each other here. Someone is obviously lying but you both seem fine by it because you could just post the screenshots and have undisputable proof..

the screenshots are from the multi's, which as far as i can understand here are already send to the admins/fpc. There are no screenshots of the death threats

[flockmastoR]

Guys, help me catch up real quick. I'm still in comeback-mode and haven't quite got the overview I used to.

So WZV is talking shit. Flandrien is talking shit. One started, nobody cares who but obviously we're all a bit aggravated by now and things escalate. There are deaththreats or maybe not. We don't know cause it's word against word BUT there are screenshots. Submitted to the admins supposedly. Anyway. you guys continue to shittalk each other here. Someone is obviously lying but you both seem fine by it because you could just post the screenshots and have undisputable proof..

So at this point I can only guess you do this publically for our entertainment and wanted to check in to let you know, I am.

Quick you might find this entertaining, I am not. I am not fine with flandrien lying and making stuff up (why you imply I am?), but until the FPC decides if they want to investigate or not, there is not much to do. That people like you and others come here and talk about other stuff is not in my interest but I guess I have to live with it. Maybe FPC is busy with discussing multi cases. I guess you heard about that too. I can totally understand that it takes some time and I will provide them my evidence if they decide to investigate on the case. But I won't quench your voyeuristic thirst.

[Flandrien]

Guys, help me catch up real quick. I'm still in comeback-mode and haven't quite got the overview I used to.

So WZV is talking shit. Flandrien is talking shit. One started, nobody cares who but obviously we're all a bit aggravated by now and things escalate. There are deaththreats or maybe not. We don't know cause it's word against word BUT there are screenshots. Submitted to the admins supposedly. Anyway. you guys continue to shittalk each other here. Someone is obviously lying but you both seem fine by it because you could just post the screenshots and have undisputable proof..

So at this point I can only guess you do this publically for our entertainment and wanted to check in to let you know, I am.

Quick you might find this entertaining, I am not. I am not fine with flandrien lying and making stuff up (why you imply I am?), but until the FPC decides if they want to investigate or not, there is not much to do. That people like you and others come here and talk about other stuff is not in my interest but I guess I have to live with it. Maybe FPC is busy with discussing multi cases. I guess you heard about that too. I can totally understand that it takes some time and I will provide them my evidence if they decide to investigate on the case. But I won't quench your voyeuristic thirst.

Since you’re such a good-boy, and you reckon you’re not doing anything wrong, here’s an example from the chat showing how you were behaving towards Tuk, for instance.

Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV(17:43): tukh fuck yourself really for your comment

If you want to be a real good boy, just quit with the games you are playing. You’re not acting like an actor, but like a ridiculous clown. As I said earlier, seek help for your mental health issues, things are getting out of hand.

[Quick]

I am not fine with flandrien lying and making stuff up (why you imply I am?)

Someone is lying. I'm not implying it's you and neither would I want to say it's Flandrien. I don't know.

the screenshots are from the multi's, which as far as i can understand here are already send to the admins/fpc. There are no screenshots of the death threats

Oh that is kinda anticlimatic. Thanks for clearing that up beulle(idk how to correctly double quote here)

[Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team]

FPC is investigating the case