Next Gen Stats – Discussion & Feedback Thread

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What team will be among the Division 1 champions in 2026?

Poll ended at Wed Jan 21, 2026 6:57 pm

SouthWest Packers
8
10%
Bugatti
12
16%
Hansa
12
16%
r FSCL
5
6%
Schappy
0
No votes
Alkworld
9
12%
Black-Star
4
5%
Tukhtahuaev
6
8%
RideforMoney
3
4%
ATB - Racing
0
No votes
Elaska
1
1%
OLcycle
4
5%
Big Donkey
1
1%
SV Furpach
0
No votes
FSG Sattelpuper
0
No votes
Dreizehn
4
5%
Radunion
5
6%
Ansach
0
No votes
Wiener Zentralfriedhof RV
2
3%
Pokemonogatari
1
1%
 
Total votes: 77

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Post by flockmastoR » Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:11 pm

Servicio Médico wrote:
Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:13 pm
so its not just me good :D but the thing is i usually took care of not going over 60 because i thought its exactly like the spreadsheet shows too.. i just was wondering about the high % of kramberger and then realized its coz of all slots.. and you wrote it too with the 24 over 60 .. i thought something is not right here shouldnt there be already some downtraining.. checked your spreadsheet and yeah thats how i remember it.. hm weird
And thanks for the general comment on the spreadsheet.

Looks like that 24 years downtraining is not possible at all (Zelinka 78 downhill). So there might be missing a if condition somewhere. Others are invited to check their percentages. Good community validation here :lol:
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Post by Tukhtahuaev » Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:43 pm

Also no downtraining possible for my 24 year old

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Post by flockmastoR » Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:49 pm

Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:43 pm
Also no downtraining possible for my 24 year old
The calculation says it should, at least from the buhmann code I know :D

So there are 3 possibilities:
I use an outdated code version (Which I believe has not changed in decades)
I miss any other spot where this downtraining of 24 year olds is ignored
We all risk losing skills for our 24 year olds and are just lucky all the time

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Post by Berlin Marks » Tue Jan 27, 2026 6:09 pm

Or the whole rsf training calculation is a lie and there are black lists where I’m at

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Post by flockmastoR » Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:17 pm

flockmastoR wrote:
Mon Jan 26, 2026 6:19 pm
NGS - S02 - Debunking Training Myths
I have updated the training_percentages Excel file, I deleted the downtraining chances for 24 year olds.

When looking at the code, I still cannot figure out why this is the case but maybe Alkworld can help here :lol:

By implementing the buhman code, I get those negative percentages, and it is also seen from the code that it is intendent to have downtraining there, but either the code is outdated and other stuff is redesigned (somewhere else) or it is somehow impossible to reach that line of code (which from my point of view shouldn't be).
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Post by Radunion » Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:21 pm

If I got it right, there is downtraining at 24 for skills above 60. Maybe somebody can test it. I do not have a 24-year-old and could only test it for 50 and 66 tomorrow.

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Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:30 pm

Lafuente and Kotibaruly, both train only their main skill with no down-training possible.

I sort of remember that a while back I was surprised when I saw that 24 year olds didn't downtrain, but the memory is hazy, maybe only imagining a memory now.... Anyway, thought, oh, 24 is still safe too, remembered wrong, and forgot it again.

Should be 65 for sprint though, limit is +10, no?
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Post by flockmastoR » Sat Jan 31, 2026 5:29 pm

Radunion wrote:
Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:21 pm
If I got it right, there is downtraining at 24 for skills above 60. Maybe somebody can test it. I do not have a 24-year-old and could only test it for 50 and 66 tomorrow.
Zelinka 24 gets no minus and has high sprint and downhill and mountain> 60
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Post by flockmastoR » Sat Jan 31, 2026 5:30 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:30 pm
Lafuente and Kotibaruly, both train only their main skill with no down-training possible.

I sort of remember that a while back I was surprised when I saw that 24 year olds didn't downtrain, but the memory is hazy, maybe only imagining a memory now.... Anyway, thought, oh, 24 is still safe too, remembered wrong, and forgot it again.

Should be 65 for sprint though, limit is +10, no?
The skill shift is +5 for sprint.
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Post by Berlin Marks » Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:46 pm

Radunion wrote:
Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:21 pm
If I got it right, there is downtraining at 24 for skills above 60. Maybe somebody can test it. I do not have a 24-year-old and could only test it for 50 and 66 tomorrow.
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Post by Hansa » Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:10 pm

Berlin Marks wrote:
Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:46 pm
Radunion wrote:
Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:21 pm
If I got it right, there is downtraining at 24 for skills above 60. Maybe somebody can test it. I do not have a 24-year-old and could only test it for 50 and 66 tomorrow.
Bozic 85 flat. No spots on flat is 0%. No downtraining
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Re: Next Gen Stats – Discussion & Feedback Thread

Post by Radunion » Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:45 pm

Thanks everybody, got this wrong. Realistically only downhill and 66 sprint guys are affected, so I missed my error.

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