Test for Server Change

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When could you join the test world championship?

Poll ended at Wed May 21, 2025 6:10 pm

Sun, May 25 - 20h
6
15%
Mon, May 26 - 9h
12
30%
Tue, May 27 - 20h
13
33%
Wed, May 28 - 9h
9
23%
 
Total votes: 40

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Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Sun May 18, 2025 6:10 pm

Hi all!

for our beloved C4F to stay as it is, it needs to change again. This time it's the server infrastructure at Strato, which is still owned by Luques currently. However, the current server is quite expensive, and Luques indicated that he thinks someone else should take it over. The alternative we're currently exploring is a virtual server from IONOS (formerly 1&1 in Germany). What are the differences?
- a virtual server is cheaper than a dedicated server, but for our purposes it should be sufficient
- the new server is not a managed server, which means some more responsibility for the admin, but also higher flexibility
- the main difference is that it's significantly cheaper

We've already setup an account, prepared the server to run C4F, copied game data from a few days ago, copied profiles and jerseys and it already seems to be running fine.
We're now inviting the community to help us to verify, if everything is working fine and to see, if the server can also handle a few more users and if the hardware is already sufficient or we'll need a bigger server package from IONOS.
To do so, we'll prepare a world championship (so it's two tests in one) on the test environment, the race itself is yet to be designed. As it's a world championship, there'll be a national team selection process based on the results of the last season. All riders will have form settings as in the real game currently. For date and time of that test you can vote in a poll here or suggest another time.
The (temporary) address of the new server is https://exciting-archimedes.217-154-242-133.plesk.page/

Greetings from the developers!

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Radunion » Mon May 19, 2025 5:03 pm

Virtual Server is surely the better option now. Unfortunately I have no experience with any commercial services sind no idea about the resources the game needs.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Mon May 19, 2025 9:55 pm

Radunion wrote:
Mon May 19, 2025 5:03 pm
Virtual Server is surely the better option now. Unfortunately I have no experience with any commercial services sind no idea about the resources the game needs.
I also don't really know, but the new test server has some nice monitoring features. So a test will show, if it's enough. An upgrade will be easily possible, if it's not enough.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Tue May 20, 2025 7:23 pm

We're planning to do both an ITT and a road race as test world championships. Anybody here wants to design those races? The idea is to have medium length races, e.g. 180km road race (8 riders / team) and 30 or 40km ITT (2 riders / team), so it won't take as long as a real world championship. As an incentive for winning, we're planning to take over the jerseys and palmares entry to the real C4F.
The race should be designed in the test version (that would be another test).

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by ECS Cycling » Tue May 20, 2025 8:49 pm

I could design, what nation do you want the races in?

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Tue May 20, 2025 9:47 pm

ECS Cycling wrote:
Tue May 20, 2025 8:49 pm
I could design, what nation do you want the races in?
designer's choice :)

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by bergwerk cycling » Tue May 20, 2025 9:58 pm

if its the only this year maybe Ruanda like the orignial?

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Tue May 20, 2025 10:00 pm

bergwerk cycling wrote:
Tue May 20, 2025 9:58 pm
if its the only this year maybe Ruanda like the orignial?
We're planning to have the real one on the real date. This is the test for it, so we ideally ride a different race.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by bergwerk cycling » Tue May 20, 2025 10:03 pm

Alkworld wrote:
Tue May 20, 2025 10:00 pm
bergwerk cycling wrote:
Tue May 20, 2025 9:58 pm
if its the only this year maybe Ruanda like the orignial?
We're planning to have the real one on the real date. This is the test for it, so we ideally ride a different race.
upps ... yes of course!!!

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Drunkenbolds » Wed May 21, 2025 12:28 am

looking forward to this!!
How is determined which nation is managed by whom?

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Wed May 21, 2025 8:11 am

Drunkenbolds wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 12:28 am
looking forward to this!!
How is determined which nation is managed by whom?
Team selection starts today at noon (CEST). You can see the order of selection in Statistics -> Users -> Selection From. Countries can be selected in Statistics -> Countries. The order is determined by last month's rankings, so Poke can go first.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Falcor CC » Wed May 21, 2025 12:54 pm

When I go to statistics --> users, I don't get a 'selection' tab. Is this because I'm not eligible, or is something wrong here?

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Hansa » Wed May 21, 2025 2:58 pm

Falcor CC wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 12:54 pm
When I go to statistics --> users, I don't get a 'selection' tab. Is this because I'm not eligible, or is something wrong here?
You go on statistic -> countries -> click on a country you want -> there is a button to select that country (currently logged tillyou can select)
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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Falcor CC » Wed May 21, 2025 3:17 pm

Hansa wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 2:58 pm
Falcor CC wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 12:54 pm
When I go to statistics --> users, I don't get a 'selection' tab. Is this because I'm not eligible, or is something wrong here?
You go on statistic -> countries -> click on a country you want -> there is a button to select that country (currently logged tillyou can select)
Thanks! Not seeing a button yet but will wait until it's my turn.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by ECS Cycling » Wed May 21, 2025 4:21 pm

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Here are the profiles for my fantasy WC. They are a work in progress, a 191km Willunga Hill circuit, and a 43km Adelaide ITT. I will still need to work on percents in the test editor, but these give the general idea.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Bugatti » Wed May 21, 2025 8:57 pm

Where can I see the Profil?
What are the % of the final kms?

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by cataracs » Wed May 21, 2025 11:34 pm

ECS Cycling wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 4:21 pm
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Here are the profiles for my fantasy WC. They are a work in progress, a 191km Willunga Hill circuit, and a 43km Adelaide ITT. I will still need to work on percents in the test editor, but these give the general idea.
No need to make the ITT very hilly, it's a race for pure TT specialists not climbers.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Hansa » Thu May 22, 2025 11:36 am

When and how do i nominate the riders for the WC?
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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Schartner Bombe » Thu May 22, 2025 3:00 pm

"All riders will have form settings as in the real game currently." - really?
Do I understand that correctly - you can then see the current form of the Giro opponents?

when does it take place now, only tue 20.00?
THE MONUMENTS MEN
La Doyenne 2025----Chaim Topol(ISR)
Il Lombardia 2024---Terry Sawchuk(CAN)
Paris-Roubaix 2024--Ariel Shapiro(ISR)
La Doyenne 2019----Lucien Patachon(FRA)

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by ECS Cycling » Thu May 22, 2025 4:07 pm

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here's the final version of the road race.
Bugatti wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 8:57 pm
Where can I see the Profil?
What are the % of the final kms?
I just put the race in the race editor, so you can view it there, the final kms are 2% and 3%
cataracs wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 11:34 pm
ECS Cycling wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 4:21 pm
Image
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Here are the profiles for my fantasy WC. They are a work in progress, a 191km Willunga Hill circuit, and a 43km Adelaide ITT. I will still need to work on percents in the test editor, but these give the general idea.
No need to make the ITT very hilly, it's a race for pure TT specialists not climbers.
Okay, I can redesign then.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Alkworld » Thu May 22, 2025 5:29 pm

Let me know when you're done, as I still need to do a manual change in the DB to mark the race as world championship.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Falcor CC » Thu May 22, 2025 6:13 pm

From my 3-person experiment: test server is not available in Belgium...

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by ECS Cycling » Thu May 22, 2025 6:31 pm

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ITT done, 30km flat ITT

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Falcor CC » Thu May 22, 2025 7:04 pm

@Alk, in Belgium we all get the same notification:

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When I press details it tells pretty much the same. Tried clearing cache among other things but did nothing... Other Belgians running into the same issue.

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Re: Test for Server Change

Post by Falcor CC » Thu May 22, 2025 8:31 pm

It works on a VPN. So it's definitely a country issue, website is not available in Belgium...

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