Early Evening Giro (18h)
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Early Evening Giro (18h)
Hansa Probably will start here. 18h Not ideal will need sitters for some stage beginnings. But after checking them it should be fine as we miss no very important stage beginnings.
Kyshawn George 26 $104,305 87 60 79 53 53 56.1 51
David Constantin 22 $63,358 81 60 71 48 52 55.8 47
Stefan Bellmont 24 $55,171 70 79 54 53 52 69.7 49
Andy Bless 23 $58,193 66 81 76 47 62 73.8 63
Marcel Walpen 23 $48,403 66 77 78 51 50 68.6 52
Raphael Schlattinger 26 $49,550 52 69 77 55 83 63.9 36
Hans Wahli 31 $48,669 50 87 76 50 50 82.8 40
We will bring these 7 + 2 of these 3 young flat Riders
Pascal Meinherz 25 $39,544 54 85 76 52 47 75.7 37
Nicolas Raggenbass 23 $34,458 51 84 72 53 46 76.2 36
Oliver Höner 22 $34,006 53 79 79 51 44 72.1 48
Currently not sure if we give Oliver Höner the advantage over one of the other guys due to his higher regeneration.
Salary will be around 535K.
Goal is winning the Tour. David Constantin has winning the youth Classement as side Goal. But the Team will fully Focus on Kyshawn.
We have no clue how we do that this year. Team is still pretty young but they will do the best to support him.
Kyshawn George 26 $104,305 87 60 79 53 53 56.1 51
David Constantin 22 $63,358 81 60 71 48 52 55.8 47
Stefan Bellmont 24 $55,171 70 79 54 53 52 69.7 49
Andy Bless 23 $58,193 66 81 76 47 62 73.8 63
Marcel Walpen 23 $48,403 66 77 78 51 50 68.6 52
Raphael Schlattinger 26 $49,550 52 69 77 55 83 63.9 36
Hans Wahli 31 $48,669 50 87 76 50 50 82.8 40
We will bring these 7 + 2 of these 3 young flat Riders
Pascal Meinherz 25 $39,544 54 85 76 52 47 75.7 37
Nicolas Raggenbass 23 $34,458 51 84 72 53 46 76.2 36
Oliver Höner 22 $34,006 53 79 79 51 44 72.1 48
Currently not sure if we give Oliver Höner the advantage over one of the other guys due to his higher regeneration.
Salary will be around 535K.
Goal is winning the Tour. David Constantin has winning the youth Classement as side Goal. But the Team will fully Focus on Kyshawn.
We have no clue how we do that this year. Team is still pretty young but they will do the best to support him.
Hansa
est. 03.08.2009
est. 03.08.2009
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
I will start here, but i dont know, why the Night Giro called herself the evening Giro.
1*1 Kamila Zuk, Hill Leader, very young but possible for Youth Jersey
1*2 Estere Volfa, Mountain helper
1*3 Karolina Piton, future Hill Captain, here to learn
1*4 Julija Kapusta, good in DH, light hilly rider, possible for some escapes
1*5 Kamila Cichon, young classic, here to learn
1*6 Natalia Sidorowicz, good helper for the Gravel stage
1*7 Jana Belomoima, helper in the flat parts
1*8 Anna Maka, Flat
1*9 Miroslav Karhan, only helper
Very easy for us here. Get some good places in the stages and maybe to get a Top 10 Place in the GC, more isnt possible at the moment.
1*1 Kamila Zuk, Hill Leader, very young but possible for Youth Jersey
1*2 Estere Volfa, Mountain helper
1*3 Karolina Piton, future Hill Captain, here to learn
1*4 Julija Kapusta, good in DH, light hilly rider, possible for some escapes
1*5 Kamila Cichon, young classic, here to learn
1*6 Natalia Sidorowicz, good helper for the Gravel stage
1*7 Jana Belomoima, helper in the flat parts
1*8 Anna Maka, Flat
1*9 Miroslav Karhan, only helper
Very easy for us here. Get some good places in the stages and maybe to get a Top 10 Place in the GC, more isnt possible at the moment.
I´ve got the magic in me
Favorites check
Participating teams:
Hansa - defending champion
Schappy
ECS Cycling
Team Trojer Vellau
Team Bavaria
Hoefs Cycling Team
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JapanNeutron
Alpacas
Favorites:
Maglia rosa
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Maglia ciclamino
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*
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Maglia azzurra
***
**
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*
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Maglia bianca
***
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*
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Teams
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This list will be completed if we know all competitors (hopefully someone in the race do it
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Hansa - defending champion
Schappy
ECS Cycling
Team Trojer Vellau
Team Bavaria
Hoefs Cycling Team
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JapanNeutron
Alpacas
Favorites:
Maglia rosa
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**
,
*
,,
Maglia ciclamino
***
**
,
*
,,
Maglia azzurra
***
**
,
*
,,
Maglia bianca
***
**
,
*
,,
Teams
***
**
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*
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This list will be completed if we know all competitors (hopefully someone in the race do it

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Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
ECS Cycling will be joining with this lineup:
#1 Alex Harwood
#2 Phil Martin
#3 Mike Grant
#4 Carson Stephens
#5 George Roberts
#6 Graham Baker
#7 Tobias Sagan
#8 Enrique Gonzalez
#9 Hiroshi Yamaguchi
There may be some changes but this is most likely.
Goals
KOM with Grant, top 3 white with Harwood, Top 15 with Harwood, get in the breakaway a lot.
#1 Alex Harwood
#2 Phil Martin
#3 Mike Grant
#4 Carson Stephens
#5 George Roberts
#6 Graham Baker
#7 Tobias Sagan
#8 Enrique Gonzalez
#9 Hiroshi Yamaguchi
There may be some changes but this is most likely.
Goals
KOM with Grant, top 3 white with Harwood, Top 15 with Harwood, get in the breakaway a lot.
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Even if 18h is not perfect the Trojers start here:
Sure starters are:
#1 Roland Symonette - 75-81 53sp - Our Nr1 for stages
#2 Andres Caceres - 71-81-78 58reg - The one for long attacks
#3 Hamid Awate - 73-81 53reg - The allroundclassic without any own ambitions
#4 Bran Leihmann - 74-73 57reg - The lung for holding the speed high on hilly stages
#? Thomas Sankars - 50-81 58reg - Our nr1 for tempo in flat stages
#? Wu Yize - 53-83-73 - The strongest flatrider but without reg his riding has to be well planned
Contenders:
1) Edgar Tekere - nearly sure as cheap 5th classic for some special stages
2) Olena Horodna - our classic with sprint but maybe the giro is too early for her
3) A young rider
4) YiSunSin / Rauno Kostabi - Most likely one of those will fill the flat team
5) Howard Trumpelton - Nearly 0% chances
Sure starters are:
#1 Roland Symonette - 75-81 53sp - Our Nr1 for stages
#2 Andres Caceres - 71-81-78 58reg - The one for long attacks
#3 Hamid Awate - 73-81 53reg - The allroundclassic without any own ambitions
#4 Bran Leihmann - 74-73 57reg - The lung for holding the speed high on hilly stages
#? Thomas Sankars - 50-81 58reg - Our nr1 for tempo in flat stages
#? Wu Yize - 53-83-73 - The strongest flatrider but without reg his riding has to be well planned
Contenders:
1) Edgar Tekere - nearly sure as cheap 5th classic for some special stages
2) Olena Horodna - our classic with sprint but maybe the giro is too early for her
3) A young rider
4) YiSunSin / Rauno Kostabi - Most likely one of those will fill the flat team
5) Howard Trumpelton - Nearly 0% chances
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
After many years team Waer join early evening edition of Italy Giro
The team will be fully concentrated to achieve :
Bahamontes Fifgt for GC
Chunyu Help Bahamontes and one stage
Kiaboc one stage
Rot Help Bahamontes /Escape
Chiappucci Mountain /Escape
Rotko Mountain /Escape
Mbembe Escape
Poonia/Kukucha Help
The team will be fully concentrated to achieve :
Bahamontes Fifgt for GC
Chunyu Help Bahamontes and one stage
Kiaboc one stage
Rot Help Bahamontes /Escape
Chiappucci Mountain /Escape
Rotko Mountain /Escape
Mbembe Escape
Poonia/Kukucha Help
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Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Giro team presentation: Hoefs Cycling Team
As a small team with ambition, we are very happy that we can ride our first big tour. In order to obtain this wildcard we purchased the very popular Ravanelli.
141 Ravanelli, popular home rider, has the goal of winning the 2 time trials. In other stages he acts as road captain.
142 Szoboszlai, young talented TTer, with a great sprint, has as goal: the ciclamino and perhaps with some luck winning a stage.
143 De Knegt, nice helper, has the goal: 2 times top 10 in TT.
144 Elizondo, nice helper, has the goal: 2 times top 10s in TT.
145 Hajsafi, a small but talented sprinter, has the goal: to stalk Kozomara (Falcor CC) and perhaps win a bunch sprint from his wheel?
146 Aantjes, an experienced sprint starter, has the goal of beating Kozomara (Falcor CC) in a bunch sprint when he is having a bad day. Aantjes is allowed to sprint for his own chance in a grand tour.
147 Cobarrubia, young helper, aims to gain experience and help the team where possible.
148 Matola, great helper, can represent Zimbabwe on behalf of my team. The aim is to regularly be in the lead as puller.
149 Kohler, our experienced pacer. The aim is to win a stage, hoping for a late escape.
Goals in summary: 3 stage victories and the ciclamino.
Our main objective remains: "keep the sponsors happy".
Finally, we would like to thank the Choto brothers for their efforts over the past few weeks. They would certainly have been valuable this Giro, but their time will come.
As a small team with ambition, we are very happy that we can ride our first big tour. In order to obtain this wildcard we purchased the very popular Ravanelli.
141 Ravanelli, popular home rider, has the goal of winning the 2 time trials. In other stages he acts as road captain.
142 Szoboszlai, young talented TTer, with a great sprint, has as goal: the ciclamino and perhaps with some luck winning a stage.
143 De Knegt, nice helper, has the goal: 2 times top 10 in TT.
144 Elizondo, nice helper, has the goal: 2 times top 10s in TT.
145 Hajsafi, a small but talented sprinter, has the goal: to stalk Kozomara (Falcor CC) and perhaps win a bunch sprint from his wheel?
146 Aantjes, an experienced sprint starter, has the goal of beating Kozomara (Falcor CC) in a bunch sprint when he is having a bad day. Aantjes is allowed to sprint for his own chance in a grand tour.
147 Cobarrubia, young helper, aims to gain experience and help the team where possible.
148 Matola, great helper, can represent Zimbabwe on behalf of my team. The aim is to regularly be in the lead as puller.
149 Kohler, our experienced pacer. The aim is to win a stage, hoping for a late escape.
Goals in summary: 3 stage victories and the ciclamino.
Our main objective remains: "keep the sponsors happy".
Finally, we would like to thank the Choto brothers for their efforts over the past few weeks. They would certainly have been valuable this Giro, but their time will come.
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
On the second rest day, after 9 stages, here's what's happened so far in the crazy 18h Giro:
Opening weekend will go down in history as the Kiaboc show. Walter Kiaboc (Waerl) won both non-TT stages and set the tone for days to come. A tactical battle between Waerl and TTV, with Team Bavaria always lurking. The TT was dominated by rookie team Hoefs Cycling Team, taking the 1-2 with 22yo Szoboszlai taking his first stage win. As for the GC guys, top favorite Luna (Alpacas) did everything right in the opening weekend and took a small lead. A surprising Tim Curran (TDMLuxembourg) and Enno Oper (Falcor CC) came out of the TT as absolute winners, while Kyshawn George (Hansa) and Rafael Bahamontes (Waerl) followed not far behind.
Stage winners before rest day 1:
2 - Walter Kiaboc (Waerl)
1 - Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
Onto the first full week then. Mass sprints in stages 4 and 6 see Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team) and Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC) both walk away with 1 win. On Wednesday, another protagonist for this Giro emerges: Andres Caceres (TTV) wins the stage, and everyone is surprised it's only the first TTV win, as he had been dominant throughout the whole Giro so far. Stage 7 was circled in all GC guys' calendars: the first mountain stage! However, only 3 steep kms in the end is not enough to see big differences between the favorites. Kiaboc loses 1 minute and his dreams of wearing pink on the second rest day are over. Kyshawn George with the expected win. The first of many in this Giro, probably. Stage 8 sees the first breakaway make it to the line. JapanNeutron pokered the best and wins his first ever win with Curtis Duncan, who dominates in the sprint!
Stage 9 was a movie. It deserves its own paragraph, even 2. A breakaway including previous stage winners Duncan and Szoboslai (who also wears the ciclamino jersey), 5 Radomiaks, Tim Kohler and Adolphe Mercator hopes to go all the way. No attacks on the cat3, it seems everyone is hesitant considering what's still coming. The break has a 6 minute lead to start the white streets, but that lead would melt away like snow before the sun. Sosa (Alpacas) leads the pack heading onto the gravel and drops a couple helpers. Then Goris (Falcor CC) takes over and thins out the pack until there's about 70 riders left. Then it's Leihmann's (TTV) turn, who goes so hard even the last 70 riders get scattered all over the place. After they turn onto normal roads again, we can spot Großmann (Ansach), Caceres (TTV), Aguilar (Alpacas), Kiaboc (Waerl), Redrocks (Falcor CC), Mahutschich (Team Bavaria) and Noé Joachim (JapanNeutron) in the favorites group. Caradhras (Alpacas), Constantin (Hansa), Santiogo (White Red), Oper (Falcor CC) and Chunyu (Waerl) are on the wrong side of things, and will see their GC dreams end today. Favorites G3 catches up to favorites G2, Hansa & Alpacas can chase together after the GC group ahead of them.
45km left and here come the next hard gravel sections. A group with Bahamontes (Waerl) and Volfa (Schappy) loses touch with favorites G1, while Beullens (Beullenscycling), Curran (TDMLuxembourg), Göppel (Beullenscycling) and Harwood (ECS Cycling) can't follow the George/Luna/Zuk group anymore and would also see their GC dreams come to an end. Joachim (JapanNeutron) and Aguilar (Alpacas) get dropped from the favorites G1, leaving only Großmann, Mahutschich and Redrocks there among the classics. However, the most crucial moment is happening behind, as George drops Luna & co! Bahamontes manages to catch up with George, as they reach the Aguilar & Joachim group. Meanwhile, some chaotic kilometers in front see the stronger classics get away while a small group with Großmann, Redrocks and Mahutschich is a little behind. We get off the longest gravel section and now onto the much missed normal roads again, while all escapers have been caught again. Zollner drops back to favorites G1 to make tempo, but the George/Bahamontes group catches up regardless. The Luna/Zuk group gets as close as 1 second, but never completely makes it back, under impulse of strong Hansa and Ansach teams. The first GC group catches up with the classics group again and is now leading the race. G2 with Luna and Zuk starts the penultimate gravel section with a 10 second deficit. A new classics group including Caceres gets away after his teammate Symonette splits the front group. G2 now consists of almost exclusively GC riders and the gap to the Luna group, which dropped Zuk, has grown to 17 seconds. Caceres goes solo on the last downhill km while the other classics get caught by G2 again. In the streets of Sienna, Caceres takes the win, with George sprinting to 2 before Bahamontes, Großmann, Joachim and Redrocks. Luna loses 22 seconds to George (28 with bonis), but can be happy overall with the limited time loss to the other favorites.
GC/white outsiders who fell victim on stage 9 (with GC times):
-Estere Volfa (Schappy) 3:29
-Felix Göppel (Beullenscycling) 4:42
-Alex Harwood (ECS Cycling) 4:52
-Tim Curran (TDMLuxembourg) 9:29
-Illary Santiogo (White Red) 9:51
-Enno Oper (Falcor CC) 9:54
-Noah Beullens (Beullenscycling) 10:34
-Wang Chunyu (Waerl) 15:46
-Caden Caradhras (Alpacas) 25:10
-David Constantin (Hansa) 25:28
Maglia Rosa
01. 00:00:00 Andres Caceres (Team Trojer Vellau)
02. 00:00:27 Alessandra Luna (Alpacas)
03. 00:00:43 Kyshawn George (Hansa)
04. 00:00:52 Walter Kiaboc (waerl)
05. 00:00:59 Rafael Bahamontes (waerl)
06. 00:01:11 Dennis Asters (Beullenscycling)
07. 00:01:11 Gregor Großmann (Ansach)
08. 00:01:13 Jaroslawa Mahutschich (Team Bavaria)
09. 00:01:20 Noé Joachim (JapanNeutron)
10. 00:01:30 Michael Redrocks (Falcor CC)
11. 00:01:38 Hamid Awate (Team Trojer Vellau)
12. 00:02:00 Spiros Galatis (Alpacas)
13. 00:02:00 Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
14. 00:02:06 Aurora Aguilar (Alpacas)
15. 00:02:09 Mattia Lavrati (Team Bavaria)
Maglia Ciclamino
01. 134 - Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
02. 109 - Andres Caceres (Team Trojer Vellau)
03. 090 - Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC)
04. 085 - Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
05. 061 - Walter Kiaboc (Waerl)
Maglia Azzurra
01. 075 - César Velez (JapanNeutron)
02. 070 - Kyshawn George (Hansa)
03. 041 - Hagen Haderer (Ansach)
04. 029 - Thibault Kerken (Falcor CC)
05. 026 - Rafael Bahamontes (Waerl)
Maglia Bianca
01. 00:00:00 Gregor Großmann* (Ansach)
02. 00:00:19 Michael Redrocks (Falcor CC)
03. 00:00:49 Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
04. 00:02:16 Estere Volfa (Schappy
05. 00:03:31 Felix Göppel (Beullenscycling)
* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca
Team classement
01. 00:00:00 Waerl
02. 00:01:25 Hansa
03. 00:03:28 Team Trojer Vellau
Stages winners on rest day 2:
2 - Walter Kiaboc (Waerl)
2 - Andres Caceres (TTV)
1 - Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
1 - Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
1 - Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC)
1 - Kyshawn George (Hansa)
1 - Curtis Duncan (JapanNeutron)
Opening weekend will go down in history as the Kiaboc show. Walter Kiaboc (Waerl) won both non-TT stages and set the tone for days to come. A tactical battle between Waerl and TTV, with Team Bavaria always lurking. The TT was dominated by rookie team Hoefs Cycling Team, taking the 1-2 with 22yo Szoboszlai taking his first stage win. As for the GC guys, top favorite Luna (Alpacas) did everything right in the opening weekend and took a small lead. A surprising Tim Curran (TDMLuxembourg) and Enno Oper (Falcor CC) came out of the TT as absolute winners, while Kyshawn George (Hansa) and Rafael Bahamontes (Waerl) followed not far behind.
Stage winners before rest day 1:
2 - Walter Kiaboc (Waerl)
1 - Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
Onto the first full week then. Mass sprints in stages 4 and 6 see Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team) and Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC) both walk away with 1 win. On Wednesday, another protagonist for this Giro emerges: Andres Caceres (TTV) wins the stage, and everyone is surprised it's only the first TTV win, as he had been dominant throughout the whole Giro so far. Stage 7 was circled in all GC guys' calendars: the first mountain stage! However, only 3 steep kms in the end is not enough to see big differences between the favorites. Kiaboc loses 1 minute and his dreams of wearing pink on the second rest day are over. Kyshawn George with the expected win. The first of many in this Giro, probably. Stage 8 sees the first breakaway make it to the line. JapanNeutron pokered the best and wins his first ever win with Curtis Duncan, who dominates in the sprint!
Stage 9 was a movie. It deserves its own paragraph, even 2. A breakaway including previous stage winners Duncan and Szoboslai (who also wears the ciclamino jersey), 5 Radomiaks, Tim Kohler and Adolphe Mercator hopes to go all the way. No attacks on the cat3, it seems everyone is hesitant considering what's still coming. The break has a 6 minute lead to start the white streets, but that lead would melt away like snow before the sun. Sosa (Alpacas) leads the pack heading onto the gravel and drops a couple helpers. Then Goris (Falcor CC) takes over and thins out the pack until there's about 70 riders left. Then it's Leihmann's (TTV) turn, who goes so hard even the last 70 riders get scattered all over the place. After they turn onto normal roads again, we can spot Großmann (Ansach), Caceres (TTV), Aguilar (Alpacas), Kiaboc (Waerl), Redrocks (Falcor CC), Mahutschich (Team Bavaria) and Noé Joachim (JapanNeutron) in the favorites group. Caradhras (Alpacas), Constantin (Hansa), Santiogo (White Red), Oper (Falcor CC) and Chunyu (Waerl) are on the wrong side of things, and will see their GC dreams end today. Favorites G3 catches up to favorites G2, Hansa & Alpacas can chase together after the GC group ahead of them.
45km left and here come the next hard gravel sections. A group with Bahamontes (Waerl) and Volfa (Schappy) loses touch with favorites G1, while Beullens (Beullenscycling), Curran (TDMLuxembourg), Göppel (Beullenscycling) and Harwood (ECS Cycling) can't follow the George/Luna/Zuk group anymore and would also see their GC dreams come to an end. Joachim (JapanNeutron) and Aguilar (Alpacas) get dropped from the favorites G1, leaving only Großmann, Mahutschich and Redrocks there among the classics. However, the most crucial moment is happening behind, as George drops Luna & co! Bahamontes manages to catch up with George, as they reach the Aguilar & Joachim group. Meanwhile, some chaotic kilometers in front see the stronger classics get away while a small group with Großmann, Redrocks and Mahutschich is a little behind. We get off the longest gravel section and now onto the much missed normal roads again, while all escapers have been caught again. Zollner drops back to favorites G1 to make tempo, but the George/Bahamontes group catches up regardless. The Luna/Zuk group gets as close as 1 second, but never completely makes it back, under impulse of strong Hansa and Ansach teams. The first GC group catches up with the classics group again and is now leading the race. G2 with Luna and Zuk starts the penultimate gravel section with a 10 second deficit. A new classics group including Caceres gets away after his teammate Symonette splits the front group. G2 now consists of almost exclusively GC riders and the gap to the Luna group, which dropped Zuk, has grown to 17 seconds. Caceres goes solo on the last downhill km while the other classics get caught by G2 again. In the streets of Sienna, Caceres takes the win, with George sprinting to 2 before Bahamontes, Großmann, Joachim and Redrocks. Luna loses 22 seconds to George (28 with bonis), but can be happy overall with the limited time loss to the other favorites.
GC/white outsiders who fell victim on stage 9 (with GC times):
-Estere Volfa (Schappy) 3:29
-Felix Göppel (Beullenscycling) 4:42
-Alex Harwood (ECS Cycling) 4:52
-Tim Curran (TDMLuxembourg) 9:29
-Illary Santiogo (White Red) 9:51
-Enno Oper (Falcor CC) 9:54
-Noah Beullens (Beullenscycling) 10:34
-Wang Chunyu (Waerl) 15:46
-Caden Caradhras (Alpacas) 25:10
-David Constantin (Hansa) 25:28
Maglia Rosa
01. 00:00:00 Andres Caceres (Team Trojer Vellau)
02. 00:00:27 Alessandra Luna (Alpacas)
03. 00:00:43 Kyshawn George (Hansa)
04. 00:00:52 Walter Kiaboc (waerl)
05. 00:00:59 Rafael Bahamontes (waerl)
06. 00:01:11 Dennis Asters (Beullenscycling)
07. 00:01:11 Gregor Großmann (Ansach)
08. 00:01:13 Jaroslawa Mahutschich (Team Bavaria)
09. 00:01:20 Noé Joachim (JapanNeutron)
10. 00:01:30 Michael Redrocks (Falcor CC)
11. 00:01:38 Hamid Awate (Team Trojer Vellau)
12. 00:02:00 Spiros Galatis (Alpacas)
13. 00:02:00 Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
14. 00:02:06 Aurora Aguilar (Alpacas)
15. 00:02:09 Mattia Lavrati (Team Bavaria)
Maglia Ciclamino
01. 134 - Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
02. 109 - Andres Caceres (Team Trojer Vellau)
03. 090 - Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC)
04. 085 - Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
05. 061 - Walter Kiaboc (Waerl)
Maglia Azzurra
01. 075 - César Velez (JapanNeutron)
02. 070 - Kyshawn George (Hansa)
03. 041 - Hagen Haderer (Ansach)
04. 029 - Thibault Kerken (Falcor CC)
05. 026 - Rafael Bahamontes (Waerl)
Maglia Bianca
01. 00:00:00 Gregor Großmann* (Ansach)
02. 00:00:19 Michael Redrocks (Falcor CC)
03. 00:00:49 Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
04. 00:02:16 Estere Volfa (Schappy
05. 00:03:31 Felix Göppel (Beullenscycling)
* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca
Team classement
01. 00:00:00 Waerl
02. 00:01:25 Hansa
03. 00:03:28 Team Trojer Vellau
Stages winners on rest day 2:
2 - Walter Kiaboc (Waerl)
2 - Andres Caceres (TTV)
1 - Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
1 - Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
1 - Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC)
1 - Kyshawn George (Hansa)
1 - Curtis Duncan (JapanNeutron)
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
So lets do a little Restday Favo check. We start with the least prestige and work toward the most prestige:
Teamclassement:
Noone cares, to lazy to check.
Favo should probably be Alpacas with 3 80+ climbers but he probably lets some groups leave as his clear goal is the GC with Luna sp we will see.
Bianca:
Contention is basically down to 3 riders:
***** Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
**** Michael Redrocks (Falcor CC)
* Estere Volfa (Schappy)
Very likely none of them will wear the white jersey on any of the stages as Gregor Großmann (Ansach) will probably were that jersey till Rome, but on the Final posiumhe wont be Illegable.
For the Contenders Redrocks 30 seconds ahead slightly better in the TT but weaker in the mountains but got a strong helper in Enno so could be a pretty close fight.
Azzurra:
***** César Velez (JapanNeutron)
** Kyshawn George (Hansa)
Till now only César rides for it. Kyshawn some chances as the best climber and only 5 points behind too, but as the team is probably focused on other goals César with good chances.
Ciclamino:
*****Andres Caceres (Team Trojer Vellau)
**** Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
* Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC)
If TTV focuses on this should be good for Andres. But its really possible ttv doesnt focus on this then it could be interesting.
Hoefs the only one really riding for this being constamtlx in escapes getting the points. If noone fights him he will get i.
Nikola still with some chances if we get a couple more MS and maybe he gains some points on the IS too there is still a small chance.
Rosa:
***** Alessandra "Ceviche" Luna (Alpacas)
**** Kyhawn George (Hansa)
*** Rafael Bahamontes (waerl)
** Gregor Großmann (Ansach)
* Jaroslawa Mahutschich (Team Bavaria)
Luna still clearly up. Still ahead in GC by far the strongest in the TT and an extremely strong team.
But with losing time on the Cobble stage instead of winning time while being clearly stronger in the pave the GC got a lot closer.
Bahamontes close behind George waiting to profit from GC action maybe Bahamontes and George can do some damage together.
Behind that Gregor hoping for training to content even more in the GC and Jaroslaw waiting for any random opportunity to gain the bunch of needed time.
Everyone else will need a miracle to content for the GC.
Teamclassement:
Noone cares, to lazy to check.
Favo should probably be Alpacas with 3 80+ climbers but he probably lets some groups leave as his clear goal is the GC with Luna sp we will see.
Bianca:
Contention is basically down to 3 riders:
***** Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
**** Michael Redrocks (Falcor CC)
* Estere Volfa (Schappy)
Very likely none of them will wear the white jersey on any of the stages as Gregor Großmann (Ansach) will probably were that jersey till Rome, but on the Final posiumhe wont be Illegable.
For the Contenders Redrocks 30 seconds ahead slightly better in the TT but weaker in the mountains but got a strong helper in Enno so could be a pretty close fight.
Azzurra:
***** César Velez (JapanNeutron)
** Kyshawn George (Hansa)
Till now only César rides for it. Kyshawn some chances as the best climber and only 5 points behind too, but as the team is probably focused on other goals César with good chances.
Ciclamino:
*****Andres Caceres (Team Trojer Vellau)
**** Laszlo Szoboszlai (Hoefs Cycling Team)
* Nikola Kozomara (Falcor CC)
If TTV focuses on this should be good for Andres. But its really possible ttv doesnt focus on this then it could be interesting.
Hoefs the only one really riding for this being constamtlx in escapes getting the points. If noone fights him he will get i.
Nikola still with some chances if we get a couple more MS and maybe he gains some points on the IS too there is still a small chance.
Rosa:
***** Alessandra "Ceviche" Luna (Alpacas)
**** Kyhawn George (Hansa)
*** Rafael Bahamontes (waerl)
** Gregor Großmann (Ansach)
* Jaroslawa Mahutschich (Team Bavaria)
Luna still clearly up. Still ahead in GC by far the strongest in the TT and an extremely strong team.
But with losing time on the Cobble stage instead of winning time while being clearly stronger in the pave the GC got a lot closer.
Bahamontes close behind George waiting to profit from GC action maybe Bahamontes and George can do some damage together.
Behind that Gregor hoping for training to content even more in the GC and Jaroslaw waiting for any random opportunity to gain the bunch of needed time.
Everyone else will need a miracle to content for the GC.
Hansa
est. 03.08.2009
est. 03.08.2009
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Michael and Nikola feel disrespected!
I guess white might actually be decided by tonights training. If it becomes 82-83 Redrocks is in the driver seat, with probably a 45s bonus and just the 1 climb difference. If it becomes 81-84 tonight the stars are definitely right, though it will still be close especially with Oper probably around all the time + the lack of tough uphill finishes. Based on previous stages I also think their form is several days apart... Volfa seems like a non contender for me. He was clearly helping yesterday.
Nikola wants more stars, with at least 3 potential mass sprints still on the calendar. Though I do doubt they will all be mass sprints of course.
Anyways, GC is spot on. Would like to add that Gregor and Jaroslawa are quietly riding a perfect Giro so far. They'll definitely be there if George and Bahamontes start looking at each other! Caceres and/or Kiaboc are outsiders for top 5, but I think they had early form and even though we lack uphill finishes, they'll be dropped way before that with some hard stages coming up!
I guess white might actually be decided by tonights training. If it becomes 82-83 Redrocks is in the driver seat, with probably a 45s bonus and just the 1 climb difference. If it becomes 81-84 tonight the stars are definitely right, though it will still be close especially with Oper probably around all the time + the lack of tough uphill finishes. Based on previous stages I also think their form is several days apart... Volfa seems like a non contender for me. He was clearly helping yesterday.
Nikola wants more stars, with at least 3 potential mass sprints still on the calendar. Though I do doubt they will all be mass sprints of course.
Anyways, GC is spot on. Would like to add that Gregor and Jaroslawa are quietly riding a perfect Giro so far. They'll definitely be there if George and Bahamontes start looking at each other! Caceres and/or Kiaboc are outsiders for top 5, but I think they had early form and even though we lack uphill finishes, they'll be dropped way before that with some hard stages coming up!
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Very nice to see Zuk here, in my opinion Zuk will have 50-60 seconds after the TT. You forgot the Reg thing, its important for the TT and its important for the two last mountain stages. And Zuk will never gain 50 seconds without a mistake from Falcor. He had a much stronger helper, against this helper i need to gain time and in the end he can gain with Redrocks for his own, when he is fresher then Zuk. So, i would change the stars for these both. When Redrocks dont have Oper on his side, i would be right.
So good luck all, i am very happe to have a chance for the top 10 gc. My rider trained very well and i will have much more fun, when my team is better soon.
I like these Version of the Giro, its a special one, but not chaotic and its very interesting.
I´ve got the magic in me
Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Great,
Falcor writes entire paragraphs of text and the only way my team gets mentioned is getting dropped

Falcor writes entire paragraphs of text and the only way my team gets mentioned is getting dropped


Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Maybe I can mention a Noah win in week 3 when he goes in the break with Oper, Curran & co :p
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Re: Early Evening Giro (18h)
Yes he would have mentioned that you where till now the Wout van Aert, from the spring classics (just close, but nothing) 

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