Auctions just down to 95%

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Auctions just down to 95%

Post by zizou » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:19 pm

Riders that were sold by a team and appear on the Division 1-5 market are also sold in auctions. For these riders the minimum bid is 85%.
At the moment you can‘t offer a bid lower than 95%.

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Re: Auctions just down to 95%

Post by Alkworld » Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:02 am

I'm getting mixed signals here. In another thread it was mentioned auctions are only going down to 95%, then it's only direct buy. Or did I misunderstand that?

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Re: Auctions just down to 95%

Post by Hansa » Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:30 pm

Alkworld wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:02 am
I'm getting mixed signals here. In another thread it was mentioned auctions are only going down to 95%, then it's only direct buy. Or did I misunderstand that?
thats the same thing zizou mentioned here. auction for named riders should go down to 85 and then go to direct buy.

not named riders should go to 95% and then dissapear
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Re: Auctions just down to 95%

Post by Alkworld » Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:29 pm

So what's right here, I need an overview to understand it:
- youth riders: auctions down to 95%, then disappearing
- unnamed older riders: auctions down to 95%, then disappearing
- named older riders: auctions down to 95% or 85%? Then direct, prices further going down

Would it even make a big difference at which % the auction stops for named riders? Afterwards (and before as well) they would anyway be available for direct buy. I'm also asking as I never really knew how named riders behave there, I rarely ever bought one.
One bug that named riders were deleted on month change I think I fixed.

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Re: Auctions just down to 95%

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:22 am

Alkworld wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:29 pm
- youth riders: auctions down to 95%, then disappearing
Correct
Alkworld wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:29 pm
- unnamed older riders: auctions down to 95%, then disappearing
Correct. Also was until 27, no older riders created.
Alkworld wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:29 pm
- named older riders: auctions down to 95% or 85%? Then direct, prices further going down
Down to 85%. After that down to 50%.
From the "Anleitung"
Riders that were sold by a team and appear on the Division 1-5 market are also sold in auctions. For these riders the minimum bid is 85%. When the rider's price has reached this limit, the rider stays on the market. The price then continues to decrease with different speed, depending on their age, down until 50%. Riders under 85% can be bought by "buy-now".
The difference in speed I don't know. Hansa might. If not you might figure it out from old code.
Alkworld wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:29 pm
Would it even make a big difference at which % the auction stops for named riders? Afterwards (and before as well) they would anyway be available for direct buy. I'm also asking as I never really knew how named riders behave there, I rarely ever bought one.
I say yes, makes a difference.
For different reasons:
-speed of price decrease not the same (at least that's what I assume)
-named riders bought for 85% (or more) in auctions don't count as cheapened riders.
Riders bought for under 85% are cheapened riders. By having them separated it's clear to everybody what kind of rider they buy. No need to calculate if that guy now is at 84 or 86%. Separted it's easier for the user, can be important, after all there a limit, max 3 per team.
You didn't mention it but:
Then in the old system (which indeed exists, is the code that might not be useful) cheapened riders max value from which the sales price is calculated, is the price they were bought at. So not by percentage. As it sort of is now, but completely weird.
Example:
You have a tax of 50%, you buy a rider worth 2mio for 1 mio.
a) Rider trained well, now worth 3 millions:
Old system:
Price is calculated from 1 mio. so you get 500'000
"System" in place now, something that just somehow came into existence:
Price is calculated from 3 mio, you paid 50%, so you get 50% of 3, 1,5 millions, sales tax, you get 750'000
b) rider now is old and fragile, tired and useless, worth only 800'000
Old system:
Price is calculated from 800'000. So you get 400'000
"New" System:
Calculated from 50%, so 400'000, you get 200'00

Anyway, that's how it was, things can be changed, but if they are users should be informed about it. Should be informed if the old system, situation is working again as well actually.
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Re: Auctions just down to 95%

Post by Hansa » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:03 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:22 am

The difference in speed I don't know. Hansa might. If not you might figure it out from old code.
i dont
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Re: Auctions just down to 95%

Post by Alkworld » Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:41 pm

- auctions of named riders now go down to 85% again
- reduced rider calculation is also corrected
- display on transfermarket should be fixed

Please have an eye on the transfermarket the next days. I can never be sure, if I missed anything.

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