January 2025

[ECS Cycling]

The circuits need to be manually adjusted again I think (stage 2 & 5 I think ?).

Can you explain what is wrong with the circuits?

in stage 2, it's visible that the circuit goes "down" everylap, probably more downhill % than uphill % in the circuit.

stage 5, it seems that the % are different in the 2 climbs (if that's a final circuit), but that might only be a display thing there.

St 2: fixed, climb was too shallow
St 5: Must have been a display Issue, climbs are the same

[olmania]

The circuits need to be manually adjusted again I think (stage 2 & 5 I think ?).

Can you explain what is wrong with the circuits?

in stage 2, it's visible that the circuit goes "down" everylap, probably more downhill % than uphill % in the circuit.

stage 5, it seems that the % are different in the 2 climbs (if that's a final circuit), but that might only be a display thing there.

St 2: fixed, climb was too shallow
St 5: Must have been a display Issue, climbs are the same

Good then !

I guess it could be added in the calendar asap because it starts quite soon

[olmania]

A little check up on Alula design, made me think small adjustements can be made especially regarding the last km incline which can have big impact for sprints (see yesterday -2% in TDU when it was probably not a real -2 there irl).

stage 1 : should be around 143kms and last km a 0%.
stage 2 : the finish line seems to be at the top of the climb, not mid climb. maybe add the last km ? I found info saying it's 1.6kms >12%; with a steeper part; but the last 500m are less steep. 14/10 seems a bit too much there imo; but probably not a big deal. I'd be keen to keep 2 steep kms ofc (13/9 or 9/13 f.e) but it would mean to adapt the whole circuit.
stage 3 : should be around 180kms, last km a 0%.
stage 4 : last km as a -1% is ok, -2% is a little more accurate, but no big deal. main question is 8 or 9km after the top of the climb ? you went for 8, that's ok. 9 would have been ok too. about the steep climb itself, I think there should be 3 sieb kms there, something like : 9-16-9 (or even 17% for the km in the middle), source I found : https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/467536
stage 5 : stage should be a little longer and final circuit changed. last km is a -1% (or a -2% max) not a -3%. actually how I see the final kms (and part of the circuit) Something like : 2/4/-1/-2/-1 climb could also be seen at 1/5 as there is a steeper part, but it's super short, so 4% looks better there imo.

Another question is about the categorisation of the stages. Official website says flat for 5 stages, which is not a great idea imo. You decided to go for medium for stage2 and mountain stage4; could possible be the opposite. or both be mountain stages.

I hope this feedback can help you improving your designing techniques ECS in the future. and I hope this can help to adapt Alula ! All I said is ofc not pure truth as designing means to adapt and make choices sometimes.

[Hansa]

Another question is about the categorisation of the stages. Official website says flat for 5 stages, which is not a great idea imo. You decided to go for medium for stage2 and mountain stage4; could possible be the opposite. or both be mountain stages.

i think the check now is to late for that:

also

if the official site has them all as flat, we should have them all as the same too, the categorization in RSF is mostly important for the Sprint jersey and if its categorized like this we should keep it.

as the points according to last years roadbook are 15 – 12 – 9 – 7 – 6 – 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 and 1 point(s) i think have them all as Mountain stage would fit the best.

https://www.xoo-cycling.ch/download/roa ... a_2024.pdf

and according to this roadbook (i know its from last year but points should be similar) we could think about changing all the IS to a cat 4 gpm, as they seemingly dont count toward the Sprintjersey (i compared with last years stage results and they really dont count), but they count for a different jersey with 3-2-1 points, the most combatitive jersey, i think thats best shown with a mountain jersey in rsf

and not all of them have bonusseconds only the Bonussprint ones so we have now to many bonusseconds there.

next time these things should be checked earlier

[Robyklebt]

the categorization in RSF is mostly important for the Sprint jersey

Points jersey please. Just because it's wrong in the game doesn't mean we have to insist on calling it the wrong name.