October 2024

[Gipfelstuermer]

Anybody already planning to design the tour de paves this year?

I fear noone so far?

If there are no other options, we can re-surrect my failed TdP application Giro des Paves from 2018, when TdP was still a contest.

Just posting this as a threat so that someone starts designing a proper TdP

[Hansa]

Anybody already planning to design the tour de paves this year?

I fear noone so far?

If there are no other options, we can re-surrect my failed TdP application Giro des Paves from 2018, when TdP was still a contest.

Just posting this as a threat so that someone starts designing a proper TdP

What are the rules for tdp? If i remember right we just use pave on normal roads wherever the Designer feels like it? Whatare the other rules? Mostly flat? Or hilly is fine? I would have sometime to draw sth but i have no clue about a pave tour also dont really plan to ride it.

[Gipfelstuermer]

What are the rules for tdp? If i remember right we just use pave on normal roads wherever the Designer feels like it? Whatare the other rules? Mostly flat? Or hilly is fine? I would have sometime to draw sth but i have no clue about a pave tour also dont really plan to ride it.

Don't think there are any rules, but generally the characteristics are

- 5 Days
- Some Pave every day
- Strong Pave Riders should be candidates or even favorites for GC
- Each day is a 'Souvenir' for one heroic pave rider of the season (riders who performed great at the cobbled monuments/classics)
- It can be real-fantasy (fantasy race on real roads) or fantasy-fantasy (fantasy race on fantasy roads)
- It can be in any country in the world

[Tukhtahuaev]

I could also try to create something on real roads, but not sure, if I would be able to finish it in time

[olmania]

I could also try to create something on real roads, but not sure, if I would be able to finish it in time

Maybe Hansa or someone else interested can design it with you ?
I think it's ok to have 2-3 designers as long as you communicate a little to make it coherent !
I won't have time to help on that unfortunately.


But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

[Gipfelstuermer]

But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

PCS has the start, end and length of each stage, even though I have no clue how they know it, because I could not find it on Twitter or Facebook and their Website does not function

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-du-faso/2024

But it could be a start for designing something, if we don't get more info.

[Hansa]

I could also try to create something on real roads, but not sure, if I would be able to finish it in time

Maybe Hansa or someone else interested can design it with you ?
I think it's ok to have 2-3 designers as long as you communicate a little to make it coherent !
I won't have time to help on that unfortunately.


But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

Last years profiles, and profiles of the years before can be found on la flamme rouge, this years profile still missing

https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/races/view/2023/832

But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

PCS has the start, end and length of each stage, even though I have no clue how they know it, because I could not find it on Twitter or Facebook and their Website does not function

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-du-faso/2024

But it could be a start for designing something, if we don't get more info.

I guess they got there infos from here:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/hE3pQWixfABBdm7w/

[Tukhtahuaev]

I will be able to finish a Tour de Paves design before the weekend. Routes are ready, only need to put them into the editor now

[flockmastoR]

I will be able to finish a Tour de Paves design before the weekend. Routes are ready, only need to put them into the editor now

Great! Thanks Tukh

[olmania]

I could also try to create something on real roads, but not sure, if I would be able to finish it in time

Maybe Hansa or someone else interested can design it with you ?
I think it's ok to have 2-3 designers as long as you communicate a little to make it coherent !
I won't have time to help on that unfortunately.


But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

Last years profiles, and profiles of the years before can be found on la flamme rouge, this years profile still missing

https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/races/view/2023/832

But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

PCS has the start, end and length of each stage, even though I have no clue how they know it, because I could not find it on Twitter or Facebook and their Website does not function

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-du-faso/2024

But it could be a start for designing something, if we don't get more info.

I guess they got there infos from here:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/hE3pQWixfABBdm7w/

If there is still no info about it, and no one started anything, I could design something when I will have time from Sunday to Tuesday.
Either fantasy, fantasy based on start/arrival towns, or real profiles of last year; any preference ?

[lennylenny]

I could also try to create something on real roads, but not sure, if I would be able to finish it in time

Maybe Hansa or someone else interested can design it with you ?
I think it's ok to have 2-3 designers as long as you communicate a little to make it coherent !
I won't have time to help on that unfortunately.


But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

Last years profiles, and profiles of the years before can be found on la flamme rouge, this years profile still missing

https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/races/view/2023/832

But I'm still checking almost everyday tour du faso.

If there's no released info about the routes, what do we do ? someone design a fantasy tour du faso ? Do we have any info about what it looked like in the past years (lenght of stages, profiles, all on onroad or some dirt roads, etc ?) ?

PCS has the start, end and length of each stage, even though I have no clue how they know it, because I could not find it on Twitter or Facebook and their Website does not function

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-du-faso/2024

But it could be a start for designing something, if we don't get more info.

I guess they got there infos from here:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/hE3pQWixfABBdm7w/

If there is still no info about it, and no one started anything, I could design something when I will have time from Sunday to Tuesday.
Either fantasy, fantasy based on start/arrival towns, or real profiles of last year; any preference ?

probably won't ride it, but 2023 route sounds as the best of those options to me

[Hansa]

I am for cutting it if no profiles are avaible

[Gipfelstuermer]

I am for using the published start/finish cities and design something around it. I can imagine it is possible because there aren't too many roads in developing countries and it will be mostly all flat anyway! Or wait a few more days and hope they publish something on Facebook/Twitter (Website seems dead but they are active there).

[lennylenny]

i am against a kinda fantasy design, normal fantasy off-season tours aren't that many days and also not that extreme in favorism towards one type of rider

then this is a race so low cat, it wouldn't even get considerations during the normal season

also it is only proposed for a single time slot, fully designing this as a fantasy tour with fixed start/finish would still quite some effort which i believe is better spent on creating a Dec Tour which we have 0 of as of now

so imo we either use the gpx profiles from last year or cut it, probably best to cut

[Tukhtahuaev]

Hopefully you are happy with this version. Transfers of course a little bit unrealistic


Mintact: Km 106


Mintact: Km 124


Mintact: Km 100


Mintact: Km 142


Mintact: Km 134

[Gipfelstuermer]

Klaas Kemp doesn't approve this Tour des Paves, but I overrule him - at least Medaglia is there - and will publish it soon if there are no other complaints

So then I can turn my attention to Tour du Faso. They hold a press conference today. Can someone please travel there and take notes?

[Hansa]

Klaas Kemp doesn't approve this Tour des Paves, but I overrule him - at least Medaglia is there - and will publish it soon if there are no other complaints

So then I can turn my attention to Tour du Faso. They hold a press conference today. Can someone please travel there and take notes?

I wrote them a message on Facebook to ask for the roadbook ^^

[olmania]

Klaas Kemp doesn't approve this Tour des Paves, but I overrule him - at least Medaglia is there - and will publish it soon if there are no other complaints

So then I can turn my attention to Tour du Faso. They hold a press conference today. Can someone please travel there and take notes?

I wrote them a message on Facebook to ask for the roadbook ^^

Already did it 10 days ago fb + email => no answer

[Hansa]

Klaas Kemp doesn't approve this Tour des Paves, but I overrule him - at least Medaglia is there - and will publish it soon if there are no other complaints

So then I can turn my attention to Tour du Faso. They hold a press conference today. Can someone please travel there and take notes?

I wrote them a message on Facebook to ask for the roadbook ^^

Already did it 10 days ago fb + email => no answer

i got an answer but its not super helpful maybe you can get some kinds of profiles out of this:

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[Gipfelstuermer]

Haha Hansa, I got the same via PM just now. I asked for more details but then no reply but the Map isn't too bad?

Edit: Checked last year. 2-3 IS per stage. No KOMs. So I think it can be designed like that.

Edit 2: They replied that more details will be published 23rd/24th October, so 1 day before the race

[flockmastoR]

Haha Hansa, I got the same via PM just now. I asked for more details but then no reply but the Map isn't too bad?

Edit: Checked last year. 2-3 IS per stage. No KOMs. So I think it can be designed like that.

Edit 2: They replied that more details will be published 23rd/24th October, so 1 day before the race

It has a stamp and a signature, must be important and accurate

[flockmastoR]

Haha Hansa, I got the same via PM just now. I asked for more details but then no reply but the Map isn't too bad?

Edit: Checked last year. 2-3 IS per stage. No KOMs. So I think it can be designed like that.

Edit 2: They replied that more details will be published 23rd/24th October, so 1 day before the race

It has a stamp and a signature, must be important and accurate

In fact, the map + distance can be used to draw a good enough edition IMO

[flockmastoR]

Profiles very boring indeed. all flat, pretty short stages in genereal. All circuits are done by guessing. But there are not many big streets in those cities/towns. If we don't get better profiles from somewhere, I think we can live with those

[Gipfelstuermer]

Nice job, AAD.

Wanna add 2-3 IS per stage? That's what they had last year.

[flockmastoR]

Nice job, AAD.

Wanna add 2-3 IS per stage? That's what they had last year.

Ok. Maybe just wait some more time, if we get info about IS. Otherwise I just add them randomly.