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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Enigma1 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:59 pm

Bonjour,

L'un de mes coureurs n'a plus la nationalité NZ alors que j'ai mis une consonance anglophone

Pourrais changer le nom en Timber Lack?

En vous remerciant

Cordialement

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:48 am

My youth rider Younès Banane (Morocco) already had a green light and is now again yellow.

I have used this page to verify the name:

https://forebears.io/x/de/forenames/youn%C3%A8s
https://forebears.io/x/de/surnames/banane

Please give him back his green light, thanks!
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:10 pm

flockmastoR wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:48 am
My youth rider Younès Banane (Morocco) already had a green light and is now again yellow.

I have used this page to verify the name:

https://forebears.io/x/de/forenames/youn%C3%A8s
https://forebears.io/x/de/surnames/banane

Please give him back his green light, thanks!
I want to add the contact information of this website for desert travels in Marrakesch. Maybe it helps you to consider the name as realistic, if not real.
https://sahara-feeling.com/kontakt/?lang=de
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by cataracs » Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:02 pm

Your links are not convincing enough. Banane is not a real surname and it doesn't sound like one either...

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Post by flockmastoR » Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:22 pm

cataracs wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:02 pm
Your links are not convincing enough. Banane is not a real surname and it doesn't sound like one either...
Some suspicous things happening here.

1) The name got accepted first, Younes was already shown with a green circle. So who did accept it in the first place?
2) Who did change the status back to questionable (I guess r Taka)? Thought this is not possible, or is this just the case for too old cases (see my waerl riders post earlier)?
3) Who did execute the decision now (I guess r Taka)?
4) Why where there no discussions in the NC for a case that already was treated differently?
5) Why didn't you use 4 eyes principle as I guess it is supposed to work normally?
6) Why didn't Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team handle the (newly opened) case although it was assigned to him?
7) Why was the decision taken in such a hurry. I didn't even receive an in-game message from the NC or a request to clarify anything.

For me it looks like it was not handled with care. If the decision of the NC is, that the name doesn't exist, I am fine with it. But I want at least another member of the NC to be involved in the case.

To the case: I have provided contact info from a person at a travel agency website from Marrakesh. Further from the main chat:
Elaska(13:09): He asked if I know someone named like that. But the last name Banane must exist for sure. Or Baanane 100% it does
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team » Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:27 pm

Case wasn't decided. I did it now and accepted.

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by cataracs » Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:52 pm

The NC was built to work like that...

The NC members take the blame though for never really asking for updates.

As for this case AAD, I'm north African myself so I'm more used to those nations names and Banane sounds unrealistic. In the second link you provided it's probably just a nickname not the surname.

For Elaska I just asked him to make sure my decision is right, and he just confirmed by saying 100% for Banane and "must exist" for Banane

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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:26 pm

cataracs wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:52 pm
The NC was built to work like that...

The NC members take the blame though for never really asking for updates.
Work like? What? Everbody free to do anything he wants? From what I know there is some kind of 4 eyes principle. You decided on that case alone with others already accepting on the nation.
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Case wasn't decided. I did it now and accepted.
So update on the Odyssey. Today during our race, Chemnitz agreed on the Nation. Banane got the green circle again. Now r Taka alone took it away again and confirmed it. So once again, why are you on such a hurry on that case concerning a 20 year old guy? No answers to my questions. No second NC member agrees with you on that case.
cataracs wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:52 pm
As for this case AAD, I'm north African myself so I'm more used to those nations names and Banane sounds unrealistic. In the second link you provided it's probably just a nickname not the surname.
I know you are, thats why I try to convince you. But I really fear that you are not willing to decide on the case objectively, when it is concerning my rider. I know I provoked you about your NC in the past and now, but as someone that uses offensive language all the time, you should be able to handle it and stay objective on that case. So why should it be a nichname then? It is a professional website contact information. As mentioned in the chat already, there might be different ways how to transcription. Sounds realistic that Baanane, Banani and Banane are just different transcription of the same original arabic name.
cataracs wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:52 pm
For Elaska I just asked him to make sure my decision is right, and he just confirmed by saying 100% for Banane and "must exist" for Banane
You asked him to 100% ignore what he says? He said "He asked if I know someone named like that. But the last name Banane must exist for sure. Or Baanane 100% it does"

So some more links

Young athlet from Marocco, BANANE FILALI Mustapha El Habib
https://fie.org/athletes/55498

Social media (yes I know not too trustworthy but there are many Instagram, Youtube-channels and others with the surname)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/youssef-ban ... bdomain=ma
https://www.instagram.com/ayoub.banane/
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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Post by Laugenspitze » Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:11 am

flockmastoR wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:26 pm

So some more links

Young athlet from Marocco, BANANE FILALI Mustapha El Habib
https://fie.org/athletes/55498

Social media (yes I know not too trustworthy but there are many Instagram, Youtube-channels and others with the surname)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/youssef-ban ... bdomain=ma
https://www.instagram.com/ayoub.banane/

https://nachnamen.net/nachname-banane

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