Calendar March
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Re: Calendar March
Mhhh the race of the 12 March is not good. This race is old, from the old kms version. And what's more in March, these roads are sometimes with a lot of snow in France in the North of the Alps. And, that's not a HCBerg race, middle moutain maximum.
Re: Calendar March
its a funny thing
races with the same route like last year always look different when Aux make it^^
cipressa 4-5-4-9-1-1 ?
races with the same route like last year always look different when Aux make it^^
cipressa 4-5-4-9-1-1 ?
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Re: Calendar March
I know where that 9 came from.
http://www.gazzetta.it/grandeciclismo/m ... _ukm.shtml
max 9% there, but they also have 8% there for the Poggio. Koppenberg has max 23%, but we don't make it a 23.
Nevertheless, Cipressa and Poggio are difficult to judge, I've been through it myself last year. Getting it done perfectly right is impossible, it's always a bit subjective. Still, 9% is too much.
http://www.gazzetta.it/grandeciclismo/m ... _ukm.shtml
max 9% there, but they also have 8% there for the Poggio. Koppenberg has max 23%, but we don't make it a 23.
Nevertheless, Cipressa and Poggio are difficult to judge, I've been through it myself last year. Getting it done perfectly right is impossible, it's always a bit subjective. Still, 9% is too much.
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Re: Calendar March
Leso, please take the last years version of iBan...nearly the same route, nearly the same difficulties...
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Re: Calendar March
Turchino:
-Different from last year. Sure it has that many downhills in the early part of the "climb"? For example the 4 4 0-3 between Rossiglione and Campi Ligure??? How did you get these numbers'
- End of Turchino. 7% seems very steep for the Turchino. Probable mistake: Turchino has a tunnel on top...
- Downhill. Simply wrong. there is no -10 and -9 up there. Mistakes comes from the cronotabella, where they claim that after 3 Km we are at 267. I'm a big fan of using the cronotabella, but I'm a bigger fan of double and triple checking, and here it becomes obvious that they are wrong soon.
iBans version was closer to reality.
Capo Berta:
- Good I think, there probably is a 6 in there somewhere, at least that's what I got too when I designed something... Laigueglia? Not sure.
An improvement I think (but not 100% sure, will check further...)
Between Capo Berta and Cipressa:
-Not sure about those 2 hills, checking I can't find the reason for the plus 3 either. It goes up and down but +3? Up to at least 50 meters (you go down 50 meters after that. ) Where exactly? Not plan to go check further on that one, simply didn't find a place at 50+ meters there.
Cipressa:
- As iBan said, there are different possiblities, you can't do it 100% right. But this +9 there is 100% wrong.
Between Cipressa and Poggio:
- Ok, think iBans version 09 there is closer to reality, but here is ok, since in reality -1 or +1 has a much smaller influence than with us.
Poggio:
- Up ok, the 5 4 2 3 of iBan wasn't wrong either, simulates the effect better, since a 4 at RSF doesn't hurt anybody, the 5 makes it possible for riders to be dropped (doesn't happen anyway, but ok)
- downhill, 10 downhill meters missing. That's the reason for the technically wront -6 iBans, but it makes the overall correct, here we are missing 10 km down.
Want my downhill for the Poggio otherwise both version ok, one 100% follows the reality, 4 4 3 3, one tries to simulate it better.
-Different from last year. Sure it has that many downhills in the early part of the "climb"? For example the 4 4 0-3 between Rossiglione and Campi Ligure??? How did you get these numbers'
- End of Turchino. 7% seems very steep for the Turchino. Probable mistake: Turchino has a tunnel on top...
- Downhill. Simply wrong. there is no -10 and -9 up there. Mistakes comes from the cronotabella, where they claim that after 3 Km we are at 267. I'm a big fan of using the cronotabella, but I'm a bigger fan of double and triple checking, and here it becomes obvious that they are wrong soon.
iBans version was closer to reality.
Capo Berta:
- Good I think, there probably is a 6 in there somewhere, at least that's what I got too when I designed something... Laigueglia? Not sure.
An improvement I think (but not 100% sure, will check further...)
Between Capo Berta and Cipressa:
-Not sure about those 2 hills, checking I can't find the reason for the plus 3 either. It goes up and down but +3? Up to at least 50 meters (you go down 50 meters after that. ) Where exactly? Not plan to go check further on that one, simply didn't find a place at 50+ meters there.
Cipressa:
- As iBan said, there are different possiblities, you can't do it 100% right. But this +9 there is 100% wrong.
Between Cipressa and Poggio:
- Ok, think iBans version 09 there is closer to reality, but here is ok, since in reality -1 or +1 has a much smaller influence than with us.
Poggio:
- Up ok, the 5 4 2 3 of iBan wasn't wrong either, simulates the effect better, since a 4 at RSF doesn't hurt anybody, the 5 makes it possible for riders to be dropped (doesn't happen anyway, but ok)
- downhill, 10 downhill meters missing. That's the reason for the technically wront -6 iBans, but it makes the overall correct, here we are missing 10 km down.
Want my downhill for the Poggio otherwise both version ok, one 100% follows the reality, 4 4 3 3, one tries to simulate it better.
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Re: Calendar March
The Nokere Koerse is ok lesossie. I just make small changes on the iban profile of 2009. Just to be coherant with the previous races this year and with the informations i find or receive.
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Re: Calendar March
Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
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Re: Calendar March
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
Roubaix in Flandres ? Is my geografy so bad ?
The 2009 edition is maybe OK, must be on the server, like Vlaanderens Mooiste...
Roubaix in Flandres ? Is my geografy so bad ?
The 2009 edition is maybe OK, must be on the server, like Vlaanderens Mooiste...
Re: Calendar March
I'm drawing the Critérium International, maybe finished saturday.
But the Cat of the hills are not online, i must complete that later.
But the Cat of the hills are not online, i must complete that later.
Re: Calendar March
Ok, two problems :
- GPM are wonrg (not a big deal)
- i draw 165kms, I did that 2 times : 165 and 167kms, but no 176 like they said. What's wrong ?
So, a try :
- GPM are wonrg (not a big deal)
- i draw 165kms, I did that 2 times : 165 and 167kms, but no 176 like they said. What's wrong ?
So, a try :
Re: Calendar March
Don't know... longer Km?
Just tested with tracks4bikers and came to 178, so too long...
Pianotolli I have at 48, you 46
Coralli 60 vs 58
Sartène 80/81 vs 74 /but think yours in in the wrong place anyway.
Viggianello 96 vs 91
Torre de Sari 118 vs 112
Orone 135 vs 129
Porto Vecchio 160/161/vs 148
So you with your longer french km lose a bit until Orono,then between Orone and Porto Vecchio is the big difference.
Other thing, Catalunya online.... nobody wanted... so I'll start with it, bah..
Just tested with tracks4bikers and came to 178, so too long...
Pianotolli I have at 48, you 46
Coralli 60 vs 58
Sartène 80/81 vs 74 /but think yours in in the wrong place anyway.
Viggianello 96 vs 91
Torre de Sari 118 vs 112
Orone 135 vs 129
Porto Vecchio 160/161/vs 148
So you with your longer french km lose a bit until Orono,then between Orone and Porto Vecchio is the big difference.
Other thing, Catalunya online.... nobody wanted... so I'll start with it, bah..
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Re: Calendar March
Ok, now the good one :
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Re: Calendar March
Ok Paris-Roubaix is not in Flandres, but it's a "flandrian race"... A pave race if you prefer. But okay, let's keep the 2009 version.
I begin the other races tomorrow.
I begin the other races tomorrow.
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Re: Calendar March
little hint for leso
catalunya is ready
thanks to Mr. Klebt
catalunya is ready
thanks to Mr. Klebt
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Re: Calendar March
It's okay for the E3 update leso!
Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
VC Aywaille
The team to beat
Il ne faut jamais juger les gens sur leurs fréquentations : Judas, par exemple, avait des amis irréprochables! (Verlaine)
The team to beat
Il ne faut jamais juger les gens sur leurs fréquentations : Judas, par exemple, avait des amis irréprochables! (Verlaine)
Re: Calendar March
Catalunya should be cat 4!
Plus the designer, whoever that idiot was, made a mess in stage 4. 1' tact should begin at Km 180, not 18.
Plus the designer, whoever that idiot was, made a mess in stage 4. 1' tact should begin at Km 180, not 18.
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Re: Calendar March
Now it's okay for the Gent - Wevelgem update too leso!
Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> ok
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> ok
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
VC Aywaille
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Il ne faut jamais juger les gens sur leurs fréquentations : Judas, par exemple, avait des amis irréprochables! (Verlaine)
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Il ne faut jamais juger les gens sur leurs fréquentations : Judas, par exemple, avait des amis irréprochables! (Verlaine)
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Re: Calendar March
Now the second stage:VC Aywaille wrote:Here is the first stage of "De Panne 2010":
The first part of the last day (stage 3a):
And the final stage (stage 3b):
Leso, je n'ai pas trouvé pour mettre les demi-étapes, ça a été enlevé? Parce que depanne03 et depanne04 se courent le même jour. Si tu savais les mettre en semi-étape ce serait top.
Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:
05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> ok
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> ok
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
VC Aywaille
The team to beat
Il ne faut jamais juger les gens sur leurs fréquentations : Judas, par exemple, avait des amis irréprochables! (Verlaine)
The team to beat
Il ne faut jamais juger les gens sur leurs fréquentations : Judas, par exemple, avait des amis irréprochables! (Verlaine)
Re: Calendar March
Kemmelberg no pavé in De Panne? Probably the old problem that pavé followed by a GPM or intermediate sprint.
Could be a problem in other less known hills too, new work for Aywaille! Check
Could be a problem in other less known hills too, new work for Aywaille! Check
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
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