Pokemonogatari(12:50): We already spent nearly 2h before the bug
Pokemonogatari(12:50): If we were at the start or mid race it is a thing
Pokemonogatari(12:49): The day before yesterday peloton comeback at 6 sec at 10 km of the end
Pokemonogatari(12:47): It is how things was made that is the problem
Pokemonogatari(12:47): That have nothing to do with who is favo or not
Pokemonogatari(12:46): The problem isn't what could happened but what happened
r QUICK(09:44): Poke and viro as GC favos more offline than online. It was bound to happen and should have happened the day before already. I don't understand why we would cancel a race. We're not in a hurry, are we?
Czech lions(08:55): That's what I just wrote about. The "use" of the information obtained.
RSV Gera(08:31): @poke: If I hadn't chased the escapees in the peloton the day before yesterday, we would have had the same gaps as now in the repeat stage.
Czech lions(08:01): Yes, everyone saw how the unfinished stage was going and acted accordingly.
Pokemonogatari(07:08): But at the end it was Alk final decision, and for a stage race it is just not fair to race again the stage when it was almost finished
Pokemonogatari(06:59): Some seems clearly aware they can win gk thanks to the bug so
Czech lions(03:19): Pity about the broken race
Czech lions(03:15): I was in favor of cancelling the stage, but others were more vocal that it would disrupt the GC. So now it's definitely okay

Czech lions(03:15): Byl jsem pro zrušení etapy, ale jiní byly hlasitější, že by to narušilo GC. Tak teď je to určitě v pořádku

Pokemonogatari(01:51): Btw next time if you restart a stage cancel all following can be nice too
Pokemonogatari(01:18): Otherwise I could just ride Suisse
Pokemonogatari(01:18): It is not fair
Pokemonogatari(01:18): And finally the bug influence gk a lot like that
Pokemonogatari(01:14): Where people could program some stuff outside c4f because they could just put their setting whenever they want before race normally
Pokemonogatari(01:13): Now we had a complete stage again on a day a TT was originally schedule
Pokemonogatari(01:12): The stage was almost finished there was just a sprint to do
Pokemonogatari(01:11): I missed some of the race yesterday but ride to lose a few second
L RSV(00:25): thx
Rhodan Underdogs(00:23): fun!
Rhodan Underdogs(00:23): Camoranesi wird jetzt Edelhelfer
Cultural Salamanca(00:22): Gw
olafscelts(00:22): gw
Rhodan Underdogs(00:21): p3 didnt expect that
waerl(00:21): gw
Rhodan Underdogs(00:20): gw
Rhodan Underdogs(00:20): too
Rhodan Underdogs(00:20): im to fair these days
Rhodan Underdogs(00:18): dont wonder if i stop now
Team Scotland(00:13): congrats
RSV Gera(00:13): gw l
r QUICK(00:12): Gw L
Rhodan Underdogs(00:10): die erste Bergetappe ist ja echt harmlos
Rhodan Underdogs(00:09): kann jetzt aber nicht einschätzen wie stark er unter Reg ist
r QUICK(00:09): Geplant wars nicht
Rhodan Underdogs(00:09): denk schon, dass sich Herregodts noch erholen kann
Rhodan Underdogs(00:08): war Donatien gestern das Vorbild?
r QUICK(00:08): Meinst nicht? Na ok. Du attackierst mehr

Rhodan Underdogs(00:07): wieviel km ist er denn gefahren?
Rhodan Underdogs(00:06): deutlich unter Reg?
r QUICK(00:06): Woodson hat 76 ZF
r QUICK(00:06): Rune jetzt ja wohl deutlich unter reg morgen und evtl übermorgen. Der wohl raus
Rhodan Underdogs(00:06): die anderen wird er nicht viel verlieren
Rhodan Underdogs(00:05): richtig schwierig ist aber im Grunde nur die letzte Etappe
r QUICK(00:05): Denke aber nicht, daß Albert das sicher hat
r QUICK(00:05): Vor allem bei 18 min hätte man auch nicht mehr starten müssen. Und wenn dann richtig und nicht grün und blau
Rhodan Underdogs(00:04): merkwürdig, dass sich das peloton so geschont hat heute, vor dem Ruhetag
------------- 2023-06-08 -------------
Rhodan Underdogs(23:56): lohnt ein Sprint nicht
Rhodan Underdogs(23:56): Platz 28 gibt noch 4000 CR
Rhodan Underdogs(23:45): too late now
Rhodan Underdogs(23:45): but i would have helped you waerl if you would have attacked
Rhodan Underdogs(23:44): time trial i mean
r QUICK(23:44): I rode pro gjord yesterday
Rhodan Underdogs(23:44): there are other riders in the peloton with high IT who got more to lose
waerl(23:43): you have weak riders in the escape
Rhodan Underdogs(23:43): in the future
Rhodan Underdogs(23:43): perhaps Quick then stops to ride Anti-Gjord
Rhodan Underdogs(23:43): im fine with Cancellara winning the tour
Rhodan Underdogs(23:42): for MS?
Rhodan Underdogs(23:42): for whom?
Rhodan Underdogs(23:42): me?
waerl(23:42): rhodan you?
Rhodan Underdogs(23:41): and he has already done a lot of work today.
Rhodan Underdogs(23:41): FSG said he prefers to play passively and in his opinion he has mostly done well with it so far.
waerl(23:40): sattel
waerl(23:37): olaf sattelpupper togheter
Rhodan Underdogs(23:34): guess they have no reason to chase
Rhodan Underdogs(23:34): some mountain teams got strong classics in front
FSG Sattelpuper(23:33): 143 i am out
Rhodan Underdogs(23:33):

Rhodan Underdogs(23:33): the gruppeto perhaps
FSG Sattelpuper(23:32): someone else do the work for his mountianriders?
Rhodan Underdogs(23:32): viereinhalb Minuten laut Formel
Rhodan Underdogs(23:20): lol
Rhodan Underdogs(23:20): vielleicht schaffe ich es ja das Uhlig vor Aumüller im GK landet
Rhodan Underdogs(23:11): ich mag ja diese offliner nicht
Rhodan Underdogs(23:11): bleibt nur zu hoffen , dass die Etappe diesesmal durchgeht
Rhodan Underdogs(23:04): mal schauen ob Aumüller 18 min im Zeitfahren herausfährt
waerl(23:04): now you stop?
FSG Sattelpuper(23:02): I ride till km 81, if anyone else will do the work
Rhodan Underdogs(22:50): I would do it so that the others have to chase you waerl
Rhodan Underdogs(22:49): otherwise they would be dead
waerl(22:49): i hope for some help
Rhodan Underdogs(22:49): Fortunately, tomorrow is itt and not a mountain stage.
r QUICK(22:48): But good to sieb and ride
Rhodan Underdogs(22:47): ideal for chasing
Rhodan Underdogs(22:47): waerl has incredible flat power
r QUICK(22:44): Gera will you join for woodson?
Rhodan Underdogs(22:44): ?
Rhodan Underdogs(22:44): Waerl do you remember what i was writing about vice captain
r QUICK(22:37): Well, thx for waiting
Rhodan Underdogs(22:36): für mich zwar nicht ideal, von mir aus kann die Gruppe durchaus 30 min bekommen
Rhodan Underdogs(22:33): und Motor ist auch gut dabei vorne
RSV Gera(22:32): eben
Rhodan Underdogs(22:32): diesesmal bist auch stärker vertreten vorne
RSV Gera(22:32): nein, nochmal fahre ich nicht für poke
Rhodan Underdogs(22:31): heute fähst du hinten nicht Gera i guess
RSV Gera(22:28): jup
Alkworld(22:28): so everything fine here now?
RSV Gera(22:26): bei uns nicht
Alkworld(22:25): public holiday tomorrow

Alkworld(22:24): maybe not a bug, but the way you rode?
Alkworld(22:24): attacks were intentional?
RSV Gera(22:22): ich hoffe du hast vorgeschlafen ... darfst uns heute zuschauen bis wir im ziel sind ;-P
Alkworld(22:21): double replay

Alkworld(22:21): different issue, one moment
RSV Gera(22:20): ah okay
Alkworld(22:20): postponing to 23h was my trick to stop it
Alkworld(22:20): now
RSV Gera(22:19): oben steht 23 Uhr
Alkworld(22:19): will start in a minute again
waerl(22:18): wunderbar
Rhodan Underdogs(22:18): tell us when it starts
Alkworld(22:18): Alkworld(21:33): unless you get the same bug again. Then you'll ride the same stage for the rest of your lives

Alkworld(22:17): energy should be refilled, back to square 1
Alkworld(22:17): so, let me check one thing ...
Alkworld(22:16): something went wrong with the fix of yesterday's race
olafscelts(22:15): whats going on ?
Alkworld(22:14): when the group is together again, I'll do the restart
Alkworld(22:14): mintact was actually 30s km change only, yesterday's race was still active technically
r QUICK(22:14): Thx alk
waerl(22:13): i think
Alkworld(22:12): ah, that's mintact from ITT maybe
Alkworld(22:12): I can put mintact very late
waerl(22:10): widhout mintakt please
Alkworld(22:10): but catch up first, I don't want to mess up GC
r QUICK(22:10): Ok
waerl(22:09): ok
FSG Sattelpuper(22:09): ok
Alkworld(22:09): I can try a fresh start
Alkworld(22:08): oh, something still went wrong?
FSG Sattelpuper(22:07): yes, when all riders in the peloton
Czech lions(22:06): Restart¨
FSG Sattelpuper(22:03): ok
RSV Gera(22:03): bin dafür das die hintere gruppe erstmal ranfährt
r QUICK(22:02): Auffahren und in 20km starten?
FSG Sattelpuper(22:02): Restart, all together?
Rhodan Underdogs(22:01): hmmm
r QUICK(22:01): Ist alk da?
FSG Sattelpuper(22:01): was ist denn das für ein Scheiss
RSV Gera(22:01): mhmm ... jetzt ist das feld so wie gestern bei schluss
Team ABC-Polsat(22:01): lmao
Team ABC-Polsat(22:01): the group is back
r QUICK(22:00): Lol
Rhodan Underdogs(22:00): lol
Team ABC-Polsat(22:00):

Rhodan Underdogs(21:59): wäre dann auch eher was leichtes
Rhodan Underdogs(21:59): ja, die letzte Mahlzeit war um 13 Uhr
waerl(21:59): hi all
FSG Sattelpuper(21:58): Moin
RSV Gera(21:57): kochen? um diese uhrzeit?
Rhodan Underdogs(21:55): das ITT wäre da passender gewesen

Rhodan Underdogs(21:55): jetzt
Rhodan Underdogs(21:55): müsste eigentlich was kochen
Rhodan Underdogs(21:55): hola
Motor Trachenberge(21:54): hi
RSV Gera(21:45): lol Alk
r QUICK(21:37): Poke, you missed the first 150km or so yesterday. Be happy you get the chance to ride it

Alkworld(21:33): unless you get the same bug again. Then you'll ride the same stage for the rest of your lives

Alkworld(21:32): ITT is tomorrow, everything one day shifted
RSV Gera(21:20): itt findet also nicht statt?
Pokemonogatari(20:57): We seriously ride again the stage?
Motor Trachenberge(20:28): thx Alk
r QUICK(20:23): Thanks. I wonder if the power stays at 1000 this time but we'll manage I guess...
Alkworld(20:03): ... and back to the start of the race
Alkworld(20:00): removed sprint and mountain points from yesterday
r QUICK(19:05): Oh, then he got the points and they counted
Alkworld(18:15): cat2 is 10 points
r QUICK(16:47): Thx alk
r QUICK(16:47): Mountain points too. Idk but I think the leader would have more than 19 with the cat 2 there
r QUICK(16:47): Gc looks right
FSG Sattelpuper(16:38): Zwischenwertung hat es die Punkte gegeben, zur Bergwertung kann ich nichts sagen, da ich da nicht für fahre.
Alkworld(16:29): similar question for mountain points
Alkworld(16:27): climbers that far back?
Alkworld(16:27): is GC correct like that or just what it was when the race stopped?
Alkworld(16:19): OK, resetting now everybody to 1000 and setting race to km1 again
waerl(15:45): The final solution is today repeat the stage and itt tomorow ?
r QUICK(14:50): ITT then tomorrow. Everything a day back
Rhodan Underdogs(14:35): give everyone 1000 and restart or skip the stage
RSV Gera(14:27): so the ITT is dropped?
Cultural Salamanca(14:12): Opción 1
r QUICK(13:30): Give everyone 1000. Scalleone started with 1000 yesterday, now 800. Quite a difference for how to ride the stage
Alkworld(13:27): especially all on 1000 is easy
Alkworld(13:26): Anybody significant below 1000 before the race yesterday? Restoring power is definitely possible
r QUICK(13:22): Probably best, I agree. Cab you give us 1000 power though? Not really fair to some teams who used 3 or 4 riders yesterday
Alkworld(13:22): skipping the stage is somehow realistic (see Giro's shortened stages), but bad for the balance of the tour
Alkworld(13:21): my opinion: best choice is to extend the tour by one day, ride yesterday's stage today
r QUICK(13:19): If we cancel yesterday, we should also cancel a mountain stage
r QUICK(13:18): Paz hatte auch 880 und wäre zu 100% bei dir mitgekommen Sattel

Alkworld(13:07): not continue at 185 but from 0 again
Alkworld(13:07): option 2 would be to restart yesterday's stage
Alkworld(13:06): manually updating 135 riders without even knowing the correct energy is unrealistic
Alkworld(13:05): ok, race situation from yesterday is gone, thought it's the same as here, so original option 3 is out, but you could just continue with the current situation
waerl(12:52): Sorry 1 than 3
waerl(12:52): Option than 3
Czech lions(12:17): Option 1 than 3
RSV Gera(12:17): But ... i'm in favor of the simplest option. You can't expect the admins to stay up late because of us.
RSV Gera(12:14): Option 3
FSG Sattelpuper(11:29): Kurz eine Erklärung auf Deutsch, da reicht mein englisch nicht. ohne die orginale reg, sind die Sprinter in ersten Gruppe klar bevorteilt, ich hätte mit Erik z.B. noch eine Attacke gefahren bei 880+ energie und der hätte kaum einer folgen können oder sie blocken, eventuell noch Henri und ein Fahrer von Polsat, der Rest dürfte nicht mehr ganz so viel Energie bessen haben. die 6 Sekunden Vorsprung sind eingearbeitet. Verdient hat dann zwar keiner was, aber da viele ehr teuer unterwegs sind, dürfte das nicht das große Problem sein.
FSG Sattelpuper(11:21): Option 3 with orginal reg, without Option 1
r QUICK(10:57): Option 3 best. Than 2. Than 1 imo
r QUICK(10:56): Yesterday was a group of around 15men in front and basically through. I made a screenshot if you wsnt
Alkworld(10:54): Option 3: finish stage (original time or earlier), regular reg for the race, continue ITT today - high effort
Alkworld(10:53): Option 2: finish stage at original time, postpone whole tour by one day - easy
Alkworld(10:52): Option 1: skip stage, start ITT as planned - easy
Alkworld(10:52): Try to find an agreement here and I can see what I can do
RSV Gera(08:49): Die stehen ja immer noch an der Bahnschranke^^ ... moin
------------- 2023-06-07 -------------