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time limit and money (the Andes thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:31 pm
by Radunion
There are a few issues with how the game handles riders who exceed the time limit and how they earn money.
- When fewer than 5 teams finish with at least 3 riders, there is still money for the minor places in this classification. Who gets it looks random.
- Riders missing the time limit still get the money for the stage, and the stage's place is shown in the race history. They are disqualified and treated this way.
- For the rider's total races, the missed stages still count. In the race history, the stages are, correctly, missing.
Of course, this is mostly an Andes problem, and I am not sure you want to fix something retrospectively. Still, it would be nice if this were fixed in the future.
Re: time limit and money (the Andes thread)
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:15 am
by IDF
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Re: time limit and money (the Andes thread)
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 10:32 am
by flockmastoR
Radunion wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:31 pm
There are a few issues with how the game handles riders who exceed the time limit and how they earn money.
- When fewer than 5 teams finish with at least 3 riders, there is still money for the minor places in this classification. Who gets it looks random.
I dont see what the issue is here, you sign up for a race as a team, you pay the salary for those stages you get a place in the team ranking. One could argue that the random placement is bad and the tie-breaker should be introduced in this case but imo not necessary for just some crazy Andes groups. Arguable to not get it when you lose all your riders, but as you said, it's more a Lex Andes (in small groups).
Radunion wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:31 pm
[*] Riders missing the time limit still get the money for the stage, and the stage's place is shown in the race history. They are disqualified and treated this way.
What you mean by that? The already won prize money stays, yes, don't see a problem with this. Price money on stages they didn't participate? Shouldn't be the case and the prize money table doesn't show that the disqualified riders got money there, or am I wrong? Or you mean the final place within the stage were they miss the Karenzzeit? In my view they are not disqualified, they just didn't meet the criteria to participate in the next stage, so for me this is also not a problem (and also just a Lex Andes as a rider at 45:00 usually is not getting stage money for the final result).
Radunion wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:31 pm
[*] For the rider's total races, the missed stages still count. In the race history, the stages are, correctly, missing.
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Of course, this is mostly an Andes problem, and I am not sure you want to fix something retrospectively. Still, it would be nice if this were fixed in the future.
Maybe a minor statistical inaccuracy, but you pay them the money for the race, so they officially rode those stages. They were just not allowed to participate but are also not allowed to participate in other races.
PS: All in all, just eliminating the Andes (of course not without replacement) would solve all this issues
Re: time limit and money (the Andes thread)
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:05 pm
by Radunion
I agree this is all minor, if you have better things to do, just tell us so. For the first point. Using the same logic, the GC money should be distributed as well. Not that I want the money or think it would be fair to get it, but the same argument should be true for team classification. Keep it as it is, but be careful with your arguments.
Re: time limit and money (the Andes thread)
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:27 am
by flockmastoR
Radunion wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:05 pm
I agree this is all minor, if you have better things to do, just tell us so. For the first point. Using the same logic, the GC money should be distributed as well. Not that I want the money or think it would be fair to get it, but the same argument should be true for team classification. Keep it as it is, but be careful with your arguments.
Why compare 2 different things. The team still competes in the competition it just gets a high penalty when less than 3 riders are in the classification.