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Game stuck
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:13 pm
by Radunion
PN 20 h stuck with 50m to go and TN only changes on :30.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:05 am
by Berlin Marks
We also need a solution for the 10 p.m. T-A. We had agreed within the peloton not to race, as we already assumed the game would be stuck.
Our idea was to postpone each stage by one day and cancel yesterday's stage and the results (points for mountain- and sprint jersey).
@Alkworld, is that possible?
Since there's no race on Monday (at least nothing on the calendar yet), that would work for everyone.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:57 pm
by cataracs
the one day fantasy at 22 was also stuck in mintact km
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:23 pm
by Alkworld
At PN 20h, does this look correct (always name, gap in seconds, sprint position within that group (higher is better))? I could get that standing, then simulate the race calculation, then reset for the next stage.
Amadeu Capitãodoporto
0
14303
Rafael Bahamontes
1
23686
Kyshawn George
1
23523
Casimir Havel
1
23486
Artturi Paavolainen
1
23286
Lassi Kinnunen
16
6590
Jarno Widar
22
30851
Flopp Omalley
22
0
Matias Toykkola
23
4741
Ricky Ortega
43
4690
David Constantin
44
19780
Hans Zimmermann
44
0
Philipp Weber
48
18305
Unto Järnefelt
48
18105
Austin Lucas
49
21262
Afonso Pinheiro
49
21062
Vladimir Dimitrov
49
0
Markus Rot
49
0
Stefan Bellmont
49
0
Friedrich Mahler
49
0
Bill Reid
63
21493
Marton Spree
63
19432
Walter Kiaboc
71
21079
Mika Hentunen
71
0
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:18 pm
by Pokemon Club
Berlin Marks wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:05 am
We also need a solution for the 10 p.m. T-A. We had agreed within the peloton not to race, as we already assumed the game would be stuck.
Our idea was to postpone each stage by one day and cancel yesterday's stage and the results (points for mountain- and sprint jersey).
@Alkworld, is that possible?
Since there's no race on Monday (at least nothing on the calendar yet), that would work for everyone.
The race just restart where that stopped yesterday, no one expected that, is it what you program Alk ?
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:21 am
by Radunion
I start here the discussion about possible compensation for the TA 22h issues. We will all lose the ability to ride the one-day race on Monday, and some teams missed the very short stage 4. I think a small bonus for all teams that got no, or very little, price money for this stage is in order. Something like
max (0, x - earned price money).
No idea what x I should suggest? 20000 could be reasonable, 50000 as well. It would be nice if some teams that want compensation would join the discussion and suggest something here (just complaining in the race chat will not help).
The actual price money, including jersey money, is:
Carrera Blue Jeans 95370
enzano veloclub 3410
FCPorto1988 22000
Fraegg 115500
Medical Service 89100
OMG Berlin 31350
Pokemonogatari 87230
Radunion 220000
Team Viromet 11000
zizou 105600
Bahrain-Merida 0
stevens 0
FSG Sattelpuper 0
Bearclaw Cycling 0
Vikings Berlin 0
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:32 am
by Alkworld
Radunion wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:21 am
I start here the discussion about possible compensation for the TA 22h issues. We will all lose the ability to ride the one-day race on Monday, and some teams missed the very short stage 4. I think a small bonus for all teams that got no, or very little, price money for this stage is in order. Something like
max (0, x - earned price money).
No idea what x I should suggest? 20000 could be reasonable, 50000 as well. It would be nice if some teams that want compensation would join the discussion and suggest something here (just complaining in the race chat will not help).
The actual price money, including jersey money, is:
Carrera Blue Jeans 95370
enzano veloclub 3410
FCPorto1988 22000
Fraegg 115500
Medical Service 89100
OMG Berlin 31350
Pokemonogatari 87230
Radunion 220000
Team Viromet 11000
zizou 105600
Bahrain-Merida 0
stevens 0
FSG Sattelpuper 0
Bearclaw Cycling 0
Vikings Berlin 0
Is that something for the FPC members to decide? Or should I just do something?
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:20 am
by Berlin Marks
I think it would be fair, what radunion said. I just came 15 minutes late to the race and it was already over. I could have made a top 3-5 place with my sprinter and two other riders in top 20 at least.
Don’t know who should decide this
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:29 pm
by Hansa
Alkworld wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:32 am
Is that something for the FPC members to decide? Or should I just do something?
Not really a fairplay issue so admin decision most likely
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:16 pm
by zizou
Finanzieller Ausgleich ist mir relativ egal, da passe ich mich der Mehrheit an.
Für mich ist die Reg eher interessant. Montag war eine Pause eingeplant, um die Fahrer für die Kat3 & Kat4 Klassiker am Dienstag und Mittwoch zu haben.
Gibt es da die Möglichkeit einer doppelten Reg zum Dienstag hin?
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:48 am
by Alkworld
zizou wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:16 pm
Finanzieller Ausgleich ist mir relativ egal, da passe ich mich der Mehrheit an.
Für mich ist die Reg eher interessant. Montag war eine Pause eingeplant, um die Fahrer für die Kat3 & Kat4 Klassiker am Dienstag und Mittwoch zu haben.
Gibt es da die Möglichkeit einer doppelten Reg zum Dienstag hin?
giving additional reg for riders in your race is possible for sure
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:14 pm
by Pokemon Club
Alkworld wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:48 am
zizou wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:16 pm
Finanzieller Ausgleich ist mir relativ egal, da passe ich mich der Mehrheit an.
Für mich ist die Reg eher interessant. Montag war eine Pause eingeplant, um die Fahrer für die Kat3 & Kat4 Klassiker am Dienstag und Mittwoch zu haben.
Gibt es da die Möglichkeit einer doppelten Reg zum Dienstag hin?
giving additional reg for riders in your race is possible for sure
We can sign on the one day race this Monday while we are in TA for the last stage.
That means you have to improve the game to let our riders give up a tour if we want and let us ride 2 races per day too
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:56 pm
by Radunion
Pokemon Club wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:14 pm
We can sign on the one day race this Monday while we are in TA for the last stage.
That means you have to improve the game to let our riders give up a tour if we want and let us ride 2 races per day too
I think it would be possible to ride 2 races with the same riders in parallel as the rider energy looks race specific now. Of course I will not do it as I would consider it bug using and as there is a chance weird things happen if you do something the game was not designed for.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:51 pm
by zizou
Alkworld wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:48 am
zizou wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:16 pm
Finanzieller Ausgleich ist mir relativ egal, da passe ich mich der Mehrheit an.
Für mich ist die Reg eher interessant. Montag war eine Pause eingeplant, um die Fahrer für die Kat3 & Kat4 Klassiker am Dienstag und Mittwoch zu haben.
Gibt es da die Möglichkeit einer doppelten Reg zum Dienstag hin?
giving additional reg for riders in your race is possible for sure
Awesome. I‘ll take it
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:00 am
by Elaska
Radunion wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:56 pm
Pokemon Club wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:14 pm
We can sign on the one day race this Monday while we are in TA for the last stage.
That means you have to improve the game to let our riders give up a tour if we want and let us ride 2 races per day too
I think it would be possible to ride 2 races with the same riders in parallel as the rider energy looks race specific now. Of course I will not do it as I would consider it bug using and as there is a chance weird things happen if you do something the game was not designed for.
Bug using is not available for a 9km stage?
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:12 pm
by Alkworld
Radunion wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:56 pm
Pokemon Club wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:14 pm
We can sign on the one day race this Monday while we are in TA for the last stage.
That means you have to improve the game to let our riders give up a tour if we want and let us ride 2 races per day too
I think it would be possible to ride 2 races with the same riders in parallel as the rider energy looks race specific now. Of course I will not do it as I would consider it bug using and as there is a chance weird things happen if you do something the game was not designed for.
Two parallel races should have worked. Behaviour for energy would be weird: Energy is copied when race is starting and updated when a race finishes. So the last race ending would have determined the energy in the end.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:58 pm
by Alkworld
Hansa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:29 pm
Alkworld wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:32 am
Is that something for the FPC members to decide? Or should I just do something?
Not really a fairplay issue so admin decision most likely
My suggestion would be that everyone gets +100k for this stage (and the missed race), i.e. I'd correct the current income for that stage to 100k, e.g. Radunion loses a bit (he earned 170k), the rest gets something. Does this sound alright? Or too harsh on Radunion? Would it have been a clear win for Lie?
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:19 pm
by Radunion
It feels a bit harsh compared with the teams that would have little chances in this stage and in Monday's stage. Suppose I keep the win and the points I can life with it. If it would be a clear win on the full stage you have to ask the other teams. It would have needed a hard effort from multiple teams to keep Sophus away.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:47 pm
by Berlin Marks
Alkworld wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:58 pm
Hansa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:29 pm
Alkworld wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:32 am
Is that something for the FPC members to decide? Or should I just do something?
Not really a fairplay issue so admin decision most likely
My suggestion would be that everyone gets +100k for this stage (and the missed race), i.e. I'd correct the current income for that stage to 100k, e.g. Radunion loses a bit (he earned 170k), the rest gets something. Does this sound alright? Or too harsh on Radunion? Would it have been a clear win for Lie?
Sounds good to me. Thank you alk.
In my opnion Lie got good chances to win the stage. I mean Radunion just came to the tour for those 3 stages
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:35 pm
by Alkworld
Compensation is paid out:
- earnings for stage 4 corrected to 100k for everyone (everybody got money here expect Radunion due to his 170k profits)
- 50k additionally for Radunion as favourite and actual winner (Radunion actually still lost 20k+ this way)
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:05 pm
by Berlin Marks
Alkworld wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:35 pm
Compensation is paid out:
- earnings for stage 4 corrected to 100k for everyone (everybody got money here expect Radunion due to his 170k profits)
- 50k additionally for Radunion as favourite and actual winner (Radunion actually still lost 20k+ this way)
Danke alk!!
Kurz auf deutsch noch: die Summe taucht in der Auflistung der Finanzenseite auf, allerdings nicht auf dem Konto.
Hab mal einen Screenshot gemacht
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:30 pm
by Alkworld
It should be a display issue only. Check the record below the correction, "after" of the last one is usually "before" of the next one. This is not the case here as I first updated the team balance, so the "before" and "after" of the latest entry are already based on the higher balance.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:21 pm
by Berlin Marks
Alkworld wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:30 pm
It should be a display issue only. Check the record below the correction, "after" of the last one is usually "before" of the next one. This is not the case here as I first updated the team balance, so the "before" and "after" of the latest entry are already based on the higher balance.
Hey Alk,
Not sure if it’s only a visible bug. Take a look to the new screenshot
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Re: Game stuck
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:53 pm
by Alkworld
Berlin Marks wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:21 pm
Alkworld wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:30 pm
It should be a display issue only. Check the record below the correction, "after" of the last one is usually "before" of the next one. This is not the case here as I first updated the team balance, so the "before" and "after" of the latest entry are already based on the higher balance.
Hey Alk,
Not sure if it’s only a visible bug. Take a look to the new screenshot
Your balance was already correct, now I fixed the display as well.
Re: Game stuck
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:04 pm
by Berlin Marks
Alkworld wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:53 pm
Berlin Marks wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:21 pm
Alkworld wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:30 pm
It should be a display issue only. Check the record below the correction, "after" of the last one is usually "before" of the next one. This is not the case here as I first updated the team balance, so the "before" and "after" of the latest entry are already based on the higher balance.
Hey Alk,
Not sure if it’s only a visible bug. Take a look to the new screenshot
Your balance was already correct, now I fixed the display as well.
Stupid me.. now I got what you meant. Thank you
and sorry!
and sorry!