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Riders not sprinting

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:51 pm

A maybe new sprint bug, or one that I hadn't seen until the last 2 days?

LOTS of riders in the peloton not appearing in the sprint.
But in fact they seem to sprint, just in their own little group at the end of the peloton...
In todays race, 31.08.,Harzer Roller, 18h

place 1-29 sprint as planned.
30-63 are the non sprinters
64-76 are the sprinters that sprint in the back of the peloton.

Yesterday at 15h the same, probably with more "back of peloton sprinters".

Who doesn't sprint seems to be pretty random to be. Some top sprinter, some semi dead helpers, a bit of everything to be found there.
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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by ATB - Racing » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:59 pm

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3824

buh said something like: "maximum riders"

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by luques » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:53 pm

ATB - Racing wrote:viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3824

buh said something like: "maximum riders"
I sprinted only with two, Costa and Sini.

Sini was ok.

Costa didn-t sprint, he was making tempo at last km, maybe it is that old bug.

Anyway strange

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:13 pm

No no, ATB, you said maximum riders :)
Mmh, another multi? Buh and ATB, maybe they are even PTT! I'll keep an eye on you!

But seems to be the same problem... never really noticed it before.
All riders should sprint. Was it a sprint with many riders? If there were many much better riders it could be possible that your weakest riders don´t sprint.
is what Buh said...
Not the weakest are the ones that don't sprint, but pretty random it seems. Today only 42 guys wanted to sprint too, had sprints with much more, still 13 didn't it seems. Those behind Costa.
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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by ATB - Racing » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:19 pm

Robyklebt wrote:No no, ATB, you said maximum riders :)
Mmh, another multi? Buh and ATB, maybe they are even PTT! I'll keep an eye on you!
You got me.

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by luques » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:01 am

Robyklebt wrote:Those behind Costa.
Mmmm... so Costa won the not visible sprint!!!

I want money and a prize for this! :)

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Buhmann » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:48 pm

Not the weakest are the ones that don't sprint, but pretty random it seems.
This is of course bad...does it happen sometimes that good sprinters (in flat) don´t sprint?

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:22 am

Buhmann wrote:
Not the weakest are the ones that don't sprint, but pretty random it seems.
This is of course bad...does it happen sometimes that good sprinters (in flat) don´t sprint?
What is good sprinters in flat?
NOrmal sprinters or sprinters with flat??
Normal good sprinters yes. 2 days in a row some 90+ sprinters didn't participate. Don't remember what the last km was though.
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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Buhmann » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:54 pm

With "in flat" i mean only normal sprint races. If there is a 12% at the end it is hard to see if this is a bug. But if there a 90+ sprinters in a flat finish, which don´t participate the, that´s a problem.

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:03 am

But if you prefer we can maybe call it feature?
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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Vuvuzela » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:03 pm

yo, 20h britain. some riders missing in the sprint.
my sherif zidan was following andrea russo (team hunsrueck), who was also not in the sprint.

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Hunsrueck » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:05 pm

Vuvuzela wrote:yo, 20h britain. some riders missing in the sprint.
my sherif zidan was following andrea russo (team hunsrueck), who was also not in the sprint.
Russo`s sprint war eingestellt, dreimal kontrolliert. Mitgehen bei und helfen für Dillon. Hat einfach nicht gesprintet!

Russo's sprint was set checked three times. Go along and help with Dillon. Just did not sprinting!

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Buhmann » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:38 pm

Mitgehen bei wem? Niemanden? Frage nur, um dem Problem auf den Grund gehen zu können.

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Re: Riders not sprinting

Post by Buhmann » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:54 pm

Okay, i found the raison: These riders would be so far away from the first rider, that they are removed from the sprint complely. This could happen if there is such a long line as you see in this race. I change it, that these riders would be in the sprint next time anyway. But of course, they won´t have a big chance to win...
Could this be a raison for many other bugs where riders have not sprinted?

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