Youth rider auction, rejected and deleted bid

[Robyklebt]

Bought a rider today, remembered he was due around 16:40, checked around 16h to see if he was still available, need to sell Rossi to have the money after all, bah, bid rejected. (Forgot to make a screen shot, sorry, only thought about that now)

Grr, who's got him? Click on him, nobody. wrong click maybe, try again, still nobody. And I have no bid anymore. So put my bid back in and decided to increase it by 3000 even, 95.1 or even 95.2, overpayed, dammit.

But my bid was gone, it told me abgelehnt.

Other bids:
85241 Bon Gamin 1,542,522 InsufficientFunds
85253 Big Donkey 1,468,641 Accepted
85249 Romoc Riders 1,465,522 Deleted

Could it be that Bon Gamin getting him, but not having the funds deleted the lower bids?
Or some other bug?
Donkey bug, somehow deleting his bid by mistake of course cannot be completely excluded either.

[Alkworld]

Bought a rider today, remembered he was due around 16:40, checked around 16h to see if he was still available, need to sell Rossi to have the money after all, bah, bid rejected. (Forgot to make a screen shot, sorry, only thought about that now)

Grr, who's got him? Click on him, nobody. wrong click maybe, try again, still nobody. And I have no bid anymore. So put my bid back in and decided to increase it by 3000 even, 95.1 or even 95.2, overpayed, dammit.

But my bid was gone, it told me abgelehnt.

Other bids:
85241 Bon Gamin 1,542,522 InsufficientFunds
85253 Big Donkey 1,468,641 Accepted
85249 Romoc Riders 1,465,522 Deleted

Could it be that Bon Gamin getting him, but not having the funds deleted the lower bids?
Or some other bug?
Donkey bug, somehow deleting his bid by mistake of course cannot be completely excluded either.

I'm a bit confused now, you got the rider, didn't you? Maybe you didn't see him right away because no refresh was done yet?

[Robyklebt]

Got the rider after making a new bid.

When I checked it said: rejected.
Clicked on it to see who got him.
Showed him still on the market. But I had no bid for him anymore.
So put in the bid back

[Robyklebt]

Ok, simulated it with T-Mobile A's help

85359 1142569 name geben 1,432,341 Rejected abgelehnt

That's what I see now.
T-Mobile had a bid, but not enough money.
I don't have enough money to buy the guy either (don't want him either, jsut testing)

My bid, 1'432'341 should have been reached much much later. Will check in a second.
But it tells me rejected.

When I click on him:

Still available:

Value 1.506.140 $
Price 13.225.151 $
And I have no bid on him anymore.

So my bid 1'432'341 was rejected when he still buyable at 13 millions.

What IMO happens is: If a bid is rejected because of not enough money, it automatically rejects lower bids with not enough money as well. ( Can't check what happens with lower bids that are covered by enough money. unless I get a donation) Should be checked and corrected!

Ah, put in the bid again, 30.11. I get the rider. Bid is in, in case Alk wants to play around with it from my account (but he really can do the same from his)

[Alkworld]

OK, I can see the issue in the code, the auction gets finalized when the price reaches the highest bid (successful or not). I'll fix it soon with some other transfermarket improvements.

[Gipfelstuermer]

OK, I can see the issue in the code, the auction gets finalized when the price reaches the highest bid (successful or not). I'll fix it soon with some other transfermarket improvements.

This has been solved, right?

Looks like there is a similar (less urgent) issue with the 'outbidden' reason. It seems to appear, when a rider is not bought by anyone, but there was a higher, deleted bid in the database. At least that's what happened to rider id 1149305 today. It seems, that the code ignores the deleted bid for the auction, but it does not ignore the deleted bid for 'calculating' the rejection reason? Can that be the case?

Edit: Could it be that the deleted bid triggers the auction to end (even though it is deleted)?

[cataracs]

I had a bid for a rider but it says rejected, low balance. Even though I have like triple the money needed for 95% and the rider is gone. Guess I can't have him back anyway?

[flockmastoR]

I had a bid for a rider but it says rejected, low balance. Even though I have like triple the money needed for 95% and the rider is gone. Guess I can't have him back anyway?

Hm, once the rider is gone, it is deleted from the database, so I fear you cannot have him. But the bug looks new to me! No other bid on that rider in the database.

riderId = 1179308

[cataracs]

Maybe I needed to bid 1$ more

[Hansa]

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Error Message: No or too many riders found with ID 1190568

name geben unknown $2,410,260 $2,410,260 abgelehnt überboten

90% bid on a 21 year old

i have the money for him whats the issue here?
reason i dont got him is written überboten but seems like he didnt join any team?

[schappy]

Unnamed rider will disapear below 95% in the auction market.

[flockmastoR]

Unnamed rider will disapear below 95% in the auction market.

1) no this is not the case for riders that transfer from the youth market to the normal market. The rider gets 21 and can be bought for up to 90% of the market value.

2) the reason "überboten" is wrong in any case as there was just hansa's bid. Even if he had bidden to low, the reason must be wrong

[schappy]

Then the manual is wrong:

Division 1-5: Auction Market
In Division 1-5 riders are sold in an auction. The price of each rider starts at 1000% of his market value and then decreases continuosly, until it reaches the minimum (95% of market value). There are two ways to buy a rider in auction:

Buy Now: Then of course the price can be quite high.
Bid: Bid as much as you think you want to pay for a certain rider. You will see the date and time when the rider will reach this price. If there are no higher valid bids and you have enough money to cover your bid, the rider will then accept your offer and join your team.
All bids are secret, you can only see your own bids. Unlike on the other transfer markets, here there is no complete refresh of the market, instead every few minutes a new riders joins the auction.

Riders that were sold by a team and appear on the Division 1-5 market are also sold in auctions. For these riders the minimum bid is 85%. When the rider's price has reached this limit, the rider stays on the market. The price then continues to decrease with different speed, depending on their age, down until 50%. Riders under 85% can be bought by "buy-now".

There is only a diffenence between "Sold by a team" or not. Only for "sold by a team" its goes under 95% in the manual.

[Hansa]

It also had shown a time when he would join, soon any case its a bug would be nice if someone fixes it, whichever is the correct way^^

[Robyklebt]

In the forum from years ago

The transfer market system for division 1-4 teams has been changed a little bit:

Auction system for sold riders: You have to bid now min. 85% of the market value instead of 95%.

Auction system for new riders: (without name): Now these riders a part of the auction system, too. You have to bid min. 95% of the market value. If the price is lower than 95% of the market value, the rider will be erased from the transfer list. There are not refreshtimes anymore.
Every few minutes a new rider will be created. These are the same rules like the current youth market.

The youth transfer market is not changed.

If you find bugs, please tell me!

Read through most of another thread, couldn't find any changes to the 95% for noname riders. Which wouldn't make much sense anyway.

That said, following a 25 year old guy with 45-79, market value 1'351'216. He is under 95% now, 1'261'925. If anybody wants to check how far he goes, do it, I have to do some other stuff soon.

Edit: 27 year old, 84-60-79 is under 95% too now.