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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:34 pm

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I'm for pavés tour back to Monday 20thand Brescia on Sunday 26thlike usual? Chrono des nations and the Pavés tour should be ok parallel.
Yep, agree with that.

Also for October: Langkawi needs to go but Cro Race will be there. Taihu can also go as we can focus on the autumn classics there. If it means we add another small tour end of October, I am OK with that.

Nov/Dec/Jan looking good at first sight. Dec Tour one day too long I think?
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Bugatti » Sun Aug 31, 2025 8:36 pm

I am also always in favor of more tours. You can also use tours from the Women's World Tour.

As it's difficult for some teams, including mine, at the weekend, could we push the larger fantasy tours so that there aren't too many days at the weekend?

E.g. Andes from the 6th not from the 8th and januartour from the 5th instead of the 3rd. For some smaller tours it would be easy to shift them to at least one day on the weekend.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by team fl » Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:57 pm

Updated draft. r TAKA and Gipfelstuermer's suggestions included, Bugatti's not. In my opinion, there are enough tours in the offseason, esp. as there are not many high cat. one day races (little money, little points). No need to add more, the balance worked well in the past. And as far as I know, the Women's World Tour (which we don't simulate in this game), has offseason too, right? The weekend thing i didn't incorporate and leave it up to the calendar guys to figure out, if it's a valid argument or not.


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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Bugatti » Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:46 am

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And as far as I know, the Women's World Tour (which we don't simulate in this game), has offseason too, right?
Right, but I mean the womens giro or tour or something like that. Not a race that is on real date.
the gpx data from those races should be avaliable and maybe it don't take that much time to create them.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by team fl » Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:39 am

Bugatti wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:46 am
team fl wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:57 pm
And as far as I know, the Women's World Tour (which we don't simulate in this game), has offseason too, right?
Right, but I mean the womens giro or tour or something like that. Not a race that is on real date.
the gpx data from those races should be avaliable and maybe it don't take that much time to create them.
I guess that's something for another thread to discuss, like this one: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10364 :)
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by flockmastoR » Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:25 am

Offseason classics of last offseason: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5342&p=122583#p122149

Please feel free to join the discussion about winter classics.
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by team fl » Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:26 am

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Offseason classics of last offseason: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5342&p=122583#p122149

Please feel free to join the discussion about winter classics.
Thanks! Had it in mind when I did the first draft and then totally forgot about it :?
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by olmania » Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:05 pm

Updated draft. r TAKA and Gipfelstuermer's suggestions included, Bugatti's not. In my opinion, there are enough tours in the offseason, esp. as there are not many high cat. one day races (little money, little points). No need to add more, the balance worked well in the past.
Maybe someone who's in favor of more tours could do an update of your file to propose a different version with more tours (and times balanced accordingly ofc) ? To see what it would look like and it brings some interest from the calendar planner and not only from some players interested in riding more tours.

I don't have time to do it this week, so if someone wants to, that'd be great ;) (you can use previous remarks about tours and dates, also propose new adaptations ofc !)

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by team fl » Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:14 pm

olmania wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:05 pm
Updated draft. r TAKA and Gipfelstuermer's suggestions included, Bugatti's not. In my opinion, there are enough tours in the offseason, esp. as there are not many high cat. one day races (little money, little points). No need to add more, the balance worked well in the past.
Maybe someone who's in favor of more tours could do an update of your file to propose a different version with more tours (and times balanced accordingly ofc) ? To see what it would look like and it brings some interest from the calendar planner and not only from some players interested in riding more tours.

I don't have time to do it this week, so if someone wants to, that'd be great ;) (you can use previous remarks about tours and dates, also propose new adaptations ofc !)
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:47 pm

I just remembred the NC's should be in October, 31st is the day for them I suppose?

We also have Okinawa tour planned for late October, as it's the best time to visit the area.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:33 pm

What is Okinawa Tour? That real UCI 1.2 race, Tour de Okinawa, that is ridden in November in reality? Normally the real date then...
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:54 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
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What is Okinawa Tour? That real UCI 1.2 race, Tour de Okinawa, that is ridden in November in reality? Normally the real date then...
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Okinawa: as seen in-game in the well hidden editor, it's a rather unfortunately named fantasy stage race by Tukh!
from the November 2023 thread

I think it was planned for Nov 2023, but then never ridden ?
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:59 pm

It's one of the oldest stage races in the databse. But didn't know it was based on a real race :lol:

Can it actually be considered fantasy now?

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by flockmastoR » Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:38 pm

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It's one of the oldest stage races in the databse. But didn't know it was based on a real race :lol:

Can it actually be considered fantasy now?
I guess it was fantasy from the beginning, and its existence aims to confuse us year in, year out
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Hansa » Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:40 pm

In realitiy it was cancelled in 2024 was ridden in 2023 dste for 2025 hard to find as i dont speak japanese.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:55 pm

No relation to the real race. My race was really just unfortunately named, because I didn't realise the real race existed.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:38 am

Robyklebt wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:33 pm
What is Okinawa Tour? That real UCI 1.2 race, Tour de Okinawa, that is ridden in November in reality? Normally the real date then...
Fantasy Okinawa! In October, one Donkey down.

But those stages look fun to ride, will be an exciting tour.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:24 pm

I suggested for someone to design something like the Sprinter cup we had parallel to Andes a few years ago.

I think with the numbers we have it's a good idea to go for the Golden(climbers)/Silver(sprinters) tours in November.

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:56 am

Regarding the fantasy tours, are there already enough in the database to fill the calendar or is there anything else needed (apart from the suggested sprinter tour)?

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:33 am

Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:56 am
Regarding the fantasy tours, are there already enough in the database to fill the calendar or is there anything else needed (apart from the suggested sprinter tour)?
you can all check yourself:
https://cycling4freaks.de/c4f-3.0/calen ... _tour.html
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:36 am

flockmastoR wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:33 am
Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:56 am
Regarding the fantasy tours, are there already enough in the database to fill the calendar or is there anything else needed (apart from the suggested sprinter tour)?
you can all check yourself:
https://cycling4freaks.de/c4f-3.0/calen ... _tour.html
I think the race that we didn't find in the tool was something the designer forgot to set "Project" in the editor, or is that not related?

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:49 am

cataracs wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:36 am
flockmastoR wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:33 am
Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:56 am
Regarding the fantasy tours, are there already enough in the database to fill the calendar or is there anything else needed (apart from the suggested sprinter tour)?
you can all check yourself:
https://cycling4freaks.de/c4f-3.0/calen ... _tour.html
I think the race that we didn't find in the tool was something the designer forgot to set "Project" in the editor, or is that not related?
well, it is just all profiles that have project: TourFantasy set (and I guess that have status review)
not sure if it is complete, just as a hint what to search for in the in-game editor
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:27 pm

flockmastoR wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:49 am


well, it is just all profiles that have project: TourFantasy set (and I guess that have status review)
not sure if it is complete, just as a hint what to search for in the in-game editor
You didn't get my question I think. I mean could it be if designer doesn't set project in his profile, the race won't appear in the tool?

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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

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cataracs wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:27 pm
flockmastoR wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:49 am


well, it is just all profiles that have project: TourFantasy set (and I guess that have status review)
not sure if it is complete, just as a hint what to search for in the in-game editor
You didn't get my question I think. I mean could it be if designer doesn't set project in his profile, the race won't appear in the tool?
Yeah you need to set project to TourFantasy. That's what I said. Or maybe I don't get at all what you mean
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Re: Suggestion for the offseason calendar

Post by cataracs » Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:32 pm

Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:56 am
Regarding the fantasy tours, are there already enough in the database to fill the calendar or is there anything else needed (apart from the suggested sprinter tour)?
I think there are enough? More wouldn't hurt, but what we really need are pavés races!

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