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RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:47 pm
by Hansa
Stats:
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=7498#p105753
Link to fullstats table:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... d=63144424
I currently create a table with some 2019 RSF stats for Teams who rode over 100 Races in 2019 and finished the year in Div 1-5.
I would like to hear which categories you would like.
I currently go for:
Total Points in 2019
Total Races in 2019
Points per Race in 2019
Division 1 Wins in 2019
Wins in 2019
Classicwins in 2019
Stage wins in 2019
Pointsclass. in 2019
Mountainclass in 2019
Youthclass in 2019
Teamclass in 2019
Any other Categories you would like to hear?
And i also would like to hear what do you think which Teams are the best in each Category?
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:57 pm
by Laurens88
Cool! Assuming that with "Stage wins" you mean stage races, I think your list is complete. The only suggestion I would have to add is the most negative fairplays given/received, but it's not THAT interesting.
Here are my predictions:
Total Points in 2019: Lorient (where can I bet 100 euros on that?)
Total Races in 2019: Big Donkey
Points per Race in 2019: Lorient, or maybe Atlas-Tbourida because he mostly rode GT's and not much else
Division 1 Wins in 2019: Lorient
Wins in 2019: free team
Classicwins in 2019: Rapid Vitesse
Stage races in 2019: RS Coesitz or Lorient
Pointsclass. in 2019: Gipfelstuermer (no idea, but I remember Jefferson won a lot of stages in tours, so...)
Mountainclass in 2019: RSC Spree
Youthclass in 2019: no idea
Teamclass in 2019: RideForMoney (no idea, but RFM rides a lot of tours and cares about all classifications, so probably it's him

)
If you need any help collecting the data, let me know.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:17 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
If you ask me, clearly I would like to see special categories for the Monuments and the Grand Tours, so:
Monument Wins
Monument Podium
Grand Tours Wins
Grand Tours Points Classification
Grand Tours Mountain Classification
Grand Tours Youth Classification
Grand Tours Team Classification
And then maybe to become a bit more creative:
Races designed for the 2019 calendar
Positive fairplay votes submitted
Negative fairplay votes submitted
Positive fairplay votes received
Negative fairplay votes received
Number of Riders bought
Number of Riders sold
Money spent for new riders
Total Palmares Entries
National Championchips won
But I also know, it is not easy to collect all the data for all the stats

Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:58 pm
by Hansa
Laurens88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:57 pm
Cool! Assuming that with "Stage wins" you mean stage races, I think your list is complete. The only suggestion I would have to add is the most negative fairplays given/received, but it's not THAT interesting.
If you need any help collecting the data, let me know.
For sure i could need help collecting data. if you really want to help you could start collecting for fairplayvotes, if you want to collect them you could collect 4 fairplay categories. Positive received, positive given, negative received, negative given. Down below is the List of all Teams i´m collecting Data of these Teams fit the criteria of 100 Races in 2019 and finished in Div 1-5 except for Hansa (only rode 89 races).
With these Data i could do an calculation like fairplay points/race given and fairplay points/race received. I guess the total for the year is not that important imo the per race average is much more meaningfull.
The Gipferl proposed Data for Number of riders bought/sold and money spent i wont do for now, but if the rest is done or someone else want to collect these Data i could implement that in my table.
Thats the List of teams fitting my criteria:
ADC Team
Alkworld
Allstars United
Ansach
Atlas – Tbourida
Atletico Lula
Auxilium Torino
Bahrain-Merida
barba roja
bernardsport
berryberry
Big Donkey
Bonebreakers
Carrera Blue Jeans
celteam
Chartreuse Monks
CircleCycle
clipperteam
Coroncina
Crazy Vikings
Dreizehn
Dynamo Leinad
Falkenbier
fantasticos
Fdgames
Feiting Siebing
Flolandria
Fraegg
free team
Freudenfeuer
Gambrinus
Gipfelstuermer
guciuzuza
Hansa*
Haudegen
Idéfix
Jäger-LeCultre
JoyRide
Katschberger RC
Kelme-Moviestar
Killers
Kreatief
L RSV
LENNAO
lesossies
Liberty Sarténe
Liquigas-CND
LombardInvest
Lorient
Lubazim team
Melange
NoMoreLulz
olafscelts
Olcycle
Olimpiazzurra
opera
Pokemonogatari
Rapid Vitesse
Rasmussen
RC Cost
RideforMoney
Rohazon RC
RS Coesitz
Rsc Spree
rsv lünen
S L Benfica
Schappy
Schartner Bombe
Semper Fidelis
Sport
SV Furpach
SVO-Racing
Team Alonso Cycle
Team Armorique
team FCSB
Team FL
Team Suessem
Team Toto
Team Trojer Velau
Team Viromet
Team-Goetten
Team-Mojabahs
TeamSWE
Tommy Teleshopping
Tourmalet
Trekken Racing
Tukhtahuaev
Valverde
waerl
Whisbone
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:11 pm
by Hansa
I added some New categories like win % and some Categories for GTs:
All the New Cetegories are:
Points 2019
Races
Points per Race
Div 1 Wins
Wins
Win%
Tour wins
Points class.
Mountain class.
Youth class.
Team class.
Classic Wins Cat 5&6
Classic Podiums Cat 5&6
GT Wins
GT Podiums
GT Pointclass.
GT Mountainclass.
GT Youthclass.
GT Teamclass.
GT stage wins
Im curious about some more predictions.
P.S. 10/90 Teams ive already collected all the Data for the categories above.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:24 am
by Pokemon Club
what about the stat so ?
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:52 am
by Hansa
Pokemon Club wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:24 am
what about the stat so ?
Hadnnt had much time the last days but its still in progress.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:56 pm
by Hansa
So Stats are Ready
Points 2019
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:09 pm
by Robyklebt
Hanse wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:56 pm
So Stats are Ready
Points 2019
I find the stats rather disappointing so far

Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:10 pm
by Hansa
Robyklebt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:09 pm
Hanse wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:56 pm
So Stats are Ready
Points 2019
I find the stats rather disappointing so far
Yeah i found a mistake while tiping the winners and will have to double check my stats again.
Dont want to upload any wrong stats.
sorry for the delay.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:21 pm
by Hansa
So Stats are Ready
I will give some Honorable mentions for Teams which does not reach 100 Races in 2019 but would finish in top 10 in these categories.
For wins all wins including NC are calculated. For win% it is calculated without NC wins because NCs dont count for races.
Thanks Rapid Vitesse for the help.
Link to fullstats table:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... d=63144424
Points 2019
1 Lorient | 82.490
2 Pokemonogatari | 60.394
3 CircleCycle | 59.015
4 RS Coesitz | 58.025
5 SV Furpach | 57.841
6 RC Cost | 57.373
7 free team | 55.472
8 RideforMoney | 53.967
9 Big Donkey | 53.409
10 Tukhtahuaev | 51.824
Races
1 free team | 355
2 Pokemonogatari | 349
3 Rasmussen | 343
4 Tukhtahuaev | 341
5 Big Donkey | 340
6 Rsc Spree | 336
7 Team Toto | 335
8 Ansach | 333
9 SV Furpach | 329
10 JoyRide | 320
Points per Race
HM Herakles* | 278
1 Lorient | 261,04
2 RS Coesitz | 247,97
3 Rapid Vitesse | 230,04
4 CircleCycle | 226,98
5 Atlas – Tbourida | 220,70
6 Alkworld | 213,70
7 Schappy | 205,79
8 RideforMoney | 201,37
9 Feiting Siebing | 200,09
10 TeamSWE | 196,02
Div 1 Win
1 Lorient | 5
2 RS Coesitz | 4
3 Schappy | 1
4 TeamSWE | 1
5 RC Cost | 1
Wins
1 free team | 181
2 RC Cost | 108
3 CircleCycle | 101
4 RS Coesitz | 99
5 Tukhtahuaev | 94
6 RideforMoney | 87
7 Lorient | 81
8 Rapid Vitesse | 78
9 Gipfelstuermer | 76
10 Auxilium Torino | 72
Win%
HM Wookie* | 80,00%
1 free team | 47,32%
2 Rapid Vitesse | 46,67%
3 RS Coesitz | 40,60%
4 CircleCycle | 36,54%
5 RideforMoney | 31,72%
6 RC Cost | 31,72%
7 Olcycle | 27,27%
8 Auxilium Torino | 25,98%
9 Gipfelstuermer | 25,38%
10 Tukhtahuaev | 25,22%
Tour wins
1 RC Cost | 15
2 CircleCycle | 14
3 Lorient | 11
4 RS Coesitz | 10
5 TeamSWE | 7
6 Pokemonogatari | 6
7 RideforMoney | 5
7 SV Furpach | 5
9 Alkworld | 4
9 Freudenfeuer | 4
9 Liquigas-CND | 4
9 Atlas – Tbourida | 4
9 Crazy Vikings | 4
9 Team-Mojabahs | 4
HM Mangahns Mannen* | 4
Points class.
1 RideforMoney | 14
2 RS Coesitz | 13
3 RC Cost | 9
4 Lorient | 8
4 Auxilium Torino | 8
6 Alkworld | 7
6 team FCSB | 7
8 CircleCycle | 6
8 free team | 6
8 Gipfelstuermer | 6
8 Trekken Racing | 6
Mountain class.
1 Rsc Spree | 15
2 Team-Mojabahs | 10
3 CircleCycle | 7
3 Team Toto | 7
5 Lorient | 6
6 Rasmussen | 5
6 SVO-Racing | 5
6 olafscelts | 5
9 Fraegg | 4
9 Jäger-LeCultre | 4
9 Kreatief | 4
9 Idéfix | 4
Youth class.
1 Team-Mojabahs | 7
2 Idéfix | 6
3 CircleCycle | 5
3 Rasmussen | 5
3 RideforMoney | 5
3 Auxilium Torino | 5
3 fantasticos | 5
3 LENNAO | 5
9 Lorient | 4
9 Jäger-LeCultre | 4
9 RC Cost | 4
9 SV Furpach | 4
9 Schartner Bombe | 4
9 Sport | 4
9 Flolandria | 4
Team class.
1 Lorient | 11
2 RideforMoney | 9
3 CircleCycle | 8
4 RC Cost | 7
4 TeamSWE | 7
6 Team Alonso Cycle | 6
7 Rasmussen | 5
7 SV Furpach | 5
7 Pokemonogatari | 5
HM Mangahns Mannen* | 5
NC Wins
1 Rapid Vitesse | 15
2 JoyRide | 13
2 free team | 13
4 SV Furpach | 11
5 RC Cost | 10
6 Gipfelstuermer | 9
7 Tukhtahuaev | 8
8 Dynamo Leinad | 7
8 Freudenfeuer | 7
10 CircleCycle | 6
10 Falkenbier | 6
10 Auxilium Torino | 6
Classic Wins Cat 5&6
HM team gigi* | 4
1 Lorient | 4
1 Rapid Vitesse | 4
1 Tukhtahuaev | 4
4 RC Cost | 3
4 SV Furpach | 3
4 Alkworld | 3
4 Pokemonogatari | 3
4 free team | 3
4 Feiting Siebing | 3
HM Mangahns Mannen* | 3
Classic Podiums Cat 5&6
1 Pokemonogatari | 8
2 Alkworld | 7
2 free team | 7
4 RC Cost | 6
5 Tukhtahuaev | 5
5 Liquigas-CND | 5
7 Lorient | 4
7 Rapid Vitesse | 4
7 Big Donkey | 4
7 RS Coesitz | 4
GT Wins
1 Pokemonogatari | 2
2 Feiting Siebing | 2
3 Freudenfeuer | 2
4 Alkworld | 1
4 Liquigas-CND | 1
4 Lorient | 1
4 CircleCycle | 1
4 team FCSB | 1
4 TeamSWE | 1
4 Atlas – Tbourida | 1
HM zizou* | 1
HM Herakles* | 1
GT Podiums
1 Schappy | 3
2 Big Donkey | 2
2 celteam | 2
2 JoyRide | 2
5 Pokemonogatari | 1
5 Liquigas-CND | 1
5 Lorient | 1
5 CircleCycle | 1
5 team FCSB | 1
5 TeamSWE | 1
5 RS Coesitz | 1
5 SV Furpach | 1
5 Chartreuse Monks | 1
5 Flolandria | 1
5 Idéfix | 1
5 Rasmussen | 1
5 Tommy Teleshopping | 1
5 Team Alonso Cycle | 1
5 Haudegen | 1
5 Coroncina | 1
5 Olimpiazzurra | 1
HM zizou* | 1
HM Herakles* | 1
GT Point Class.
1 CircleCycle | 2
1 Gipfelstuermer | 2
3 Schappy | 1
3 Lorient | 1
3 team FCSB | 1
3 RS Coesitz | 1
3 SV Furpach | 1
3 Feiting Siebing | 1
3 opera | 1
3 fantasticos | 1
3 RideforMoney | 1
3 Trekken Racing | 1
GT MountainClass.
1 Lorient | 3
2 CircleCycle | 2
3 SV Furpach | 1
3 fantasticos | 1
3 Big Donkey | 1
3 Rasmussen | 1
3 Team Alonso Cycle | 1
3 Freudenfeuer | 1
3 LombardInvest | 1
3 Schartner Bombe | 1
3 Rsc Spree | 1
GT Youth Class.
1 CircleCycle | 2
2 SV Furpach | 1
2 Rasmussen | 1
2 Schartner Bombe | 1
2 Schappy | 1
2 celteam | 1
2 Coroncina | 1
2 Ansach | 1
2 Rohazon RC | 1
2 Team-Mojabahs | 1
2 Bonebreakers | 1
2 lesossies | 1
2 Team Toto | 1
GT Team Class.
1 Lorient | 3
2 Schappy | 2
2 JoyRide | 2
4 CircleCycle | 1
4 SV Furpach | 1
4 celteam | 1
4 Big Donkey | 1
4 team FCSB | 1
4 Pokemonogatari | 1
4 TeamSWE | 1
GT stage wins
1 Lorient | 21
2 CircleCycle | 20
3 SV Furpach | 15
4 Freudenfeuer | 14
5 Gipfelstuermer | 14
6 fantasticos | 13
7 Tukhtahuaev | 11
8 RS Coesitz | 10
9 JoyRide | 9
10 team FCSB | 8
10 Atlas – Tbourida | 8
Negative Fairplay Received
1 free team | 40
2 Liquigas-CND | 33
3 Gambrinus | 27
4 RC Cost | 23
5 Auxilium Torino | 21
6 Team Toto | 18
7 JoyRide | 17
8 Katschberger RC | 14
8 Team-Goetten | 14
10 guciuzuza | 13
Neg FP received per Race
HM Wookie* | ,200
HM Motor Trachenberge* | ,148
1 Liquigas-CND | ,131
2 Gambrinus | ,120
3 free team | ,113
4 guciuzuza | ,088
5 Auxilium Torino | ,083
HM Stamina* | ,077
6 RC Cost | ,074
HM Mangahns Mannen* | ,065
7 Killers | ,062
HM Mikado* | ,062
8 Team-Goetten | ,057
9 Team Toto | ,054
10 JoyRide | ,053
Negative Fairplay Given
1 free team | 77
2 Liquigas-CND | 69
3 Auxilium Torino | 38
4 JoyRide | 34
5 Katschberger RC | 29
6 Gambrinus | 25
7 Rsc Spree | 15
8 Carrera Blue Jeans | 15
9 Killers | 14
9 Team Toto | 14
9 Big Donkey | 14
Neg FP given per Race
1 Liquigas-CND | ,275
2 free team | ,217
HM Wookie* | ,200
3 Auxilium Torino | ,150
4 Gambrinus | ,111
5 Katschberger RC | ,109
6 JoyRide | ,106
HM Mangahns Mannen* | ,091
HM Los Galacticos* | ,089
HM Motor Trachenberge* | ,074
7 Killers | ,073
8 Liberty Sarténe | ,070
9 Bonebreakers | ,064
10 Carrera Blue Jeans | ,052
Positive Fairplay received
1 SV Furpach | 512
2 Big Donkey | 454
3 JoyRide | 447
4 Tukhtahuaev | 442
5 Rasmussen | 419
6 CircleCycle | 370
7 free team | 362
8 Schartner Bombe | 359
9 LENNAO | 349
10 RS Coesitz | 346
Pos FP give per Race
1 Trekken Racing | 1,775
2 Team FL | 1,685
HM Equipe ZB* | 1,677
3 SVO-Racing | 1,639
4 SV Furpach | 1,556
5 Alkworld | 1,520
6 RS Coesitz | 1,479
7 CircleCycle | 1,423
8 Kelme-Moviestar | 1,413
9 JoyRide | 1,397
HM Stamina* | 1,385
HM Mangahns Mannen* | 1,364
10 Falkenbier | 1,359
Positive Fairplay given
1 rsv lünen | 2199
2 Valverde | 1356
3 Big Donkey | 1303
4 Auxilium Torino | 931
5 RS Coesitz | 882
6 Tommy Teleshopping | 599
7 Kelme-Moviestar | 537
8 Rasmussen | 502
9 LENNAO | 497
10 Killers | 489
Pos FP give per Race
1 rsv lünen | 7,026
HM Ariostea* | 6,629
2 Valverde | 6,457
3 Big Donkey | 3,832
4 RS Coesitz | 3,769
HM Hansa-Team* | 3,727
5 Auxilium Torino | 3,665
6 Tommy Teleshopping | 3,483
HM Mangahns Mannen* | 2,987
HM Equipe ZB* | 2,742
7 Kelme-Moviestar | 2,740
8 Killers | 2,534
HM Team Hunsrueck* | 2,510
HM Stamina* | 2,500
HM RS Ostfriesland* | 2,340
9 Feiting Siebing | 2,250
10 TeamSWE | 2,132
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:55 pm
by Laurens88
For everybody who is interested to see the statistics of every team, you can find the full database in Google Spreadsheets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... d=63144424
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:41 pm
by olmania
Nice job

good recap ! (and happy to see my team in the list even if I didn't ride much; and with a shit team :p).
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:56 pm
by el Galactico
Great work! Thanks for including me even though I just had a few races

Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Very cool work.
Lorient dominate RSF 2019, but let's see 2020.
Also happy to see my team in some categories, even winning "GT Points Classement" (not the most important category^^) and in Top-10 for race wins and Top-10 for race wins per race. Thanks to JJ with 24 race wins - and he is still riding

Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:21 am
by Z&B
Lovely work. I like it. Just edit the double "Pos FP give per Race" since thats the only stat that matters.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:21 am
by Pokemon Club
Gipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm
Very cool work.
Lorient dominate RSF 2019, but let's see 2020.
Also happy to see my team in some categories, even winning "GT Points Classement" (not the most important category^^) and in Top-10 for race wins and Top-10 for race wins per race. Thanks to JJ with 24 race wins - and he is still riding
He didn't dominate important races!
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:35 am
by Robyklebt
Winning 3 out of 5 monuments is indeed rather undominating, only RVV-LBL-Lombardia. Second MSR. And LBL. 3rd Lombardia. He "failed" Roubaix, no podium there, otherwise.... what more do you demand? Ah, that his name is Pokesomething, then we wouldn't here the end of it, of how great 2019 was.
Stage races, ok, "only" the Tour, with Bram more seemed possible, even if I have no idea how the opposition was.
54 cat 4-6 palmares entries, doesn't seem too bad to me... Lots of stage wins.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:57 am
by scorpsche
Very nice, Hansa - big thanks for your effort!
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:31 am
by Robyklebt
Can you at least not troll in this thread?
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:52 pm
by scorpsche
No clue what you (always) want from me Donkey....bit obsessed.
I was honestly thanking Hansa for the effort he put into these stats.
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:16 am
by Robyklebt
Honestly? You?
Just. Stop. Trolling
Re: RSF 2019 Stats by Hansa
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 pm
by team fl
Guys, as long as you both have stupid quotes of each other in your signature, at least I won't treat any report of any post from you both seriously. And could you both stop now, esp. Robyklebt, as it looks that you have started this bullshit this time in this thread. If you have a problem with each other (which is pretty obvious) solve it via PM, or not. Thanks. And now popcorn for the people!
Anyway, great stuff Hansa!