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Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:26 pm
by Alkworld
Hi all!
Due to recent training "success" in Team Alkworld, we thought it's time to revive the infamous "Club der Trainingsverweigerer", which I think didn't make it to the "new" forum when we migrated from the old one ages ago. If I remember correctly, it was founded by (or for) Pius Spycher in 2006 or 2007. The rules to get in were strict, only when a rider continuously didn't train anything at all (no side skill, no downtraining, nothing), there was a chance to be accepted. Now the two Alkworld team captains wanna initiate this exclusive club again:
- William Golding already reached 27 training session without training anything (the last one was even downtraining only)
- GeorgeBernard Shaw is not that good, but also already reached 19 unsuccessful training sessions in a row
More candidates are welcome, minimum requirement is to have 16 consecutive training sessions without any training (neither up nor down)
And maybe someone has good idea for a new name of the club? I didn't find a proper translation until now.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:48 pm
by Hansa
I propose Max Villiger
Trained at 27-1 and next time at 31-4 thats 18 non trainings if i count right (was likely as he was simply covering most of his skills for a long time)
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:38 pm
by Bear
13-14 mtn trainings I would always accept for a climber
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:22 am
by drei.zehn
Habib Bourguiba
Never trained his second skill after he turned 22.
While he trained his main skill only 12 times.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:37 am
by drei.zehn
Alkworld wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:26 pm
And maybe someone has good idea for a new name of the club? I didn't find a proper translation until now.
The lazy ones
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:01 am
by Alkworld
drei.zehn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:22 am
Habib Bourguiba
Never trained his second skill after he turned 22.
While he trained his main skill only 12 times.
This is not the club of riders training less than their manager wants them to, it's way more exclusive. We would be full of riders from Sauerland otherwise
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:36 am
by flockmastoR
Alkworld wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:26 pm
Hi all!
Due to recent training "success" in Team Alkworld, we thought it's time to revive the infamous "Club der Trainingsverweigerer", which I think didn't make it to the "new" forum when we migrated from the old one ages ago. If I remember correctly, it was founded by (or for) Pius Spycher in 2006 or 2007. The rules to get in were strict, only when a rider continuously didn't train anything at all (no side skill, no downtraining, nothing), there was a chance to be accepted. Now the two Alkworld team captains wanna initiate this exclusive club again:
- William Golding already reached 27 training session without training anything (the last one was even downtraining only)
- GeorgeBernard Shaw is not that good, but also already reached 19 unsuccessful training sessions in a row
More candidates are welcome, minimum requirement is to have 16 consecutive training sessions without any training (neither up nor down)
And maybe someone has good idea for a new name of the club? I didn't find a proper translation until now.
Hm not really restrictive this criteria. My A&D record holder should be;
26 Boaz Trakhtenbrot, no training in the period 26/4 - 33/1 (age/training session), very surprisingly as he is considered as a solid-good training guy reaching 87 climb (starting with 71) and 59 TT (starting with 54)
21 Alexandros Karatzoglou, no training in 27/1 - 32/4, sprint guy that at some point just covered all skills and wasn't training very good in total, nevertheless a very hill/money sprinter with 16 wins
21 Wilfried Nöbauer, PR winner, no training in 29/2-34/1
Others that would be in this club with this lame criteria: Jacob Wolfowitz (17), Geoffrey Hinton (17), Moustapha Faye (17)
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:31 pm
by Alkworld
flockmastoR wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:36 am
Hm not really restrictive this criteria. My A&D record holder should be;
26 Boaz Trakhtenbrot, no training in the period 26/4 - 33/1 (age/training session), very surprisingly as he is considered as a solid-good training guy reaching 87 climb (starting with 71) and 59 TT (starting with 54)
21 Alexandros Karatzoglou, no training in 27/1 - 32/4, sprint guy that at some point just covered all skills and wasn't training very good in total, nevertheless a very hill/money sprinter with 16 wins
21 Wilfried Nöbauer, PR winner, no training in 29/2-34/1
Others that would be in this club with this lame criteria: Jacob Wolfowitz (17), Geoffrey Hinton (17), Moustapha Faye (17)
Well, those were the old criteria. Anyway, there aren't that many current members. From what I can see, AAD only has some alumni. 26 of course is pretty impressive! Congrats to that!
I remember from the old times that a potential record holder was a Cerro flat rider, Jochem Uytdehaage. However, he also had perfect skills for being a senior member here, high flat, everything else <= 50 and no need to cover those skills while having 0% probability
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:46 pm
by lennylenny
of my current team members Srikanth Kidambi is the record holder with nothing starting on 28-3 and first training afterwards at 33-1 with -1 downhill, so 18 in a row with 87 flat and 82 downhill in that period
ex riders:
21Chris Langridge (31 wins btw) nothing from 28-1 to 33-2 (including)
27Lenny Gregoire (first bought by Idefix, then picked up by me) nothing from 26-2 to 32-4
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:58 pm
by flockmastoR
lennylenny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:46 pm
of my current team members Srikanth Kidambi is the record holder with nothing starting on 28-3 and first training afterwards at 33-1 with -1 downhill, so 18 in a row with 87 flat and 82 downhill in that period
ex riders:
21Chris Langridge (31 wins btw) nothing from 28-1 to 33-2 (including)
27Lenny Gregoire (first bought by Idefix, then picked up by me) nothing from 26-2 to 32-4
Well, was Gregoire on the transfer market during a Training day? If yes that would disqualify him imo
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:19 am
by lennylenny
flockmastoR wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:58 pm
lennylenny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:46 pm
of my current team members Srikanth Kidambi is the record holder with nothing starting on 28-3 and first training afterwards at 33-1 with -1 downhill, so 18 in a row with 87 flat and 82 downhill in that period
ex riders:
21Chris Langridge (31 wins btw) nothing from 28-1 to 33-2 (including)
27Lenny Gregoire (first bought by Idefix, then picked up by me) nothing from 26-2 to 32-4
Well, was Gregoire on the transfer market during a Training day? If yes that would disqualify him imo
two training days even
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:10 am
by Alkworld
flockmastoR wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:58 pm
Well, was Gregoire on the transfer market during a Training day? If yes that would disqualify him imo
The rules regarding times on the TM are undefined until now, but those should be excluded, I guess.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:54 am
by Alkworld
Golding's first chance for downtraining and he takes it right away. So after a long streak of 28 non-trainings, he now joins the alumni and hands over the keys to the club room. But to whom? Shaw now reached 21 non-trainings, but there gotta be someone more "successful".
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 9:36 pm
by Radunion
I add Lauri Vaska here. He is certainly not lazy with 49-90-79-48-46, but training to 90 flat at 26-3 made him a prime candidate for this. He has not trained 17 times since and is now 31. So it is very likely he can extend this stretch for 8 more trainings, with some luck even more.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 11:01 pm
by Bear
Hm, what do you expect? I have several riders which dont train for months... percentage is just very low. Hopefully sarcasm
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 6:45 am
by Radunion
Alkworld wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:01 am
This is not the club of riders training less than their manager wants them to, it's way more exclusive.
Feel free to add your riders that fulfill the entree criteria Bear. Of course the definition favors riders with good early training, final skills are not the point.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 7:08 pm
by Bear
No time for that. I dont want to be the „Nörgler“. All ok what you post here. Actually it’s funny.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:02 am
by Tukhtahuaev
If I counted right Murodbek Makhamadzhonov reached his 30th training without any up or downtraining tonight
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:06 am
by Alkworld
Tukhtahuaev wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:02 am
If I counted right Murodbek Makhamadzhonov reached his 30th training without any up or downtraining tonight
Congrats to the new president of the club! Apparently he wins every contest, the good ones and the bad ones.
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 1:07 am
by Falcor CC
Proud to announce my first entry here as Jordan Henkey hasn't trained since the 3rd June training, making tonight his 16th training without anything changing! Curious to see how long he will keep this streak alive
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:51 am
by Tukhtahuaev
Crescenzo Poggiolini also joined the club a week ago. 17 trainings now. Would be at 28 already if he didn't have to insult me by downtraining downhill at 26 to then immediately train it again when I started covering it
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 8:07 am
by drei.zehn
Liubov Kypiachenkova has also 16 in a row now!
Re: Club der Trainingsverweigerer
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:31 pm
by Radunion
I nominate with Norbert Wiener, with 28 trainings and counting. His last training was 25-1 (89 flat). He is now 32 and has had no training in between.
To a lesser extent, I nominate a more famous rider with Sophus Lie. He had no training from 27-3 to 32-4, 22 trainings in total.