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Training 20.8.2012:
Wolfgang Gröbner Flach: -1
Szolem Mandelbrojt Sprint: -1
Moritz Schönflies Sprint: -1
Maksim Maasikas Flach: -1
Maksim Maasikas Sprint: -1
Jeff Joker Zeit: -1
Janus Letho Zeit: -1
Tom Kaulitz Flach: +1
Adel Simbel Zeit: -1
Hieronymus Heuser Flach: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Berg: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Sprint: +1
Mark Inlander Berg: +1

The old ones very good, Joker still at 95, Mandel still at 85, Simbel still at 89, Heuser only flat but ok 80 flat is good now, inlander now a 62-82, Kaulitz unbelievable 83-73-79. Gröbner can now retire soon and his downtraining in flat is forgotten

Training 27.8.2012:
Dehuai Wei Flach: -1
Dehuai Wei Abfahrt: -1
Bang Gong Zeit: -1
Leonardo Alighieri Flach: -1
Leonardo Alighieri Abfahrt: -1
Leonardo Alighieri Zeit: -1
Leonardo Alighieri Sprint: -1
Michele Trapani Berg: +1
Daoquan Gao Berg: +1
Daoquan Gao Sprint: +1
Nicolas Legrand Berg: +1

Happy ape, Trapani, Legrand and Gao with the double, yeaaaaaaaaaaah!

Training 27.8.2012:
Mehmet Ekici Berg: +1
Mahir Cengül Berg: +1
Sinan Yanar Sprint: +1
Alain Robnik Berg: +1
Sera Tibatong Berg: +1
Sera Tibatong Flach: +1
Zent Quirino Berg: +1
Zent Quirino Flach: +1
Mbele Sakho Flach: +1
Grega Mavric Flach: +1
Florian Flaschenträger Flach: -1
Djibo Ndiaye Abfahrt: -1
Wanmelbu Warawara Zeit: -1
Francesco Romiti Berg: -1
Francesco Romiti Flach: -1
Francesco Romiti Abfahrt: -1
Francesco Romiti Zeit: -1
Francesco Romiti Sprint: -1

after good races a nice training Mehmet and Mahir liked being activ yesterday so they both took mountain, Sinan takes Sprint but leaves mountain again :/.. But it is not like there would be nothing negative: Flo lost his first flatpoint

Training 27.8.2012:
Joaquin Camacho Flach: -1
Joaquin Camacho Zeit: -1
Ricardo Quaresma Flach: -1
Luis Costales Berg: +1
Jaime Roldos Flach: +1
Jaime Roldos Zeit: +1
Don Quijote Berg: +1
Don Quijote Flach: +1

Hm, Quaresma training down a bit much with 33 and always the wrong skills. This would be ok, if Ille's Zucker would do the same Anyway, Don Quijote is still perfect, that might also get important in the distant future, Costales is also doing well. Carrera still sucks of course, started at 55-74, now went up to amazing 65-80 after four seasons

Training 27.8.2012:
Szolem Mandelbrojt Zeit: -1
Szolem Mandelbrojt Sprint: -1
Moritz Schönflies Abfahrt: -1
Maksim Maasikas Berg: -1
Maksim Maasikas Flach: -1
Maksim Maasikas Abfahrt: -1
Maksim Maasikas Zeit: -1
Jeff Joker Flach: -1
Jeff Joker Sprint: -1
Carl Gauß Zeit: -1
Hieronymus Heuser Flach: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Berg: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Sprint: +1
Lorenzo Avogadro Flach: +1
Mark Inlander Berg: +1

Wird zeit dass ich die alten säcke verkaufe, die ganzen Minüse kann ich langsam nicht mehr sehen, Schönflies immer noch auf Grandiosen 85 während Maasikas langsam nur noch Gehaltsdrücker ist. Joker doch noch auf 94 runter, wird nun immer schwerer. Gauß wieder mal mit minus (man dachte schon er nimmt mal wieder + seit über 3 monaten gar nix mehr). Mandel immer noch auf 85, die Nebenwerte werden aber immer hässlicher. Heuser von Risiko auf 96-40 umgestellt, nimmt jedoch flach anstatt berg aber kann man mit leben jedoch ist er schon 4 punkte unter maximum mit 22, nicht klar ob dass noch sinn macht den auf berg zu trainieren. Boltzmann +4,+4 perfekt. die 60-80er immer besser, ich hoffe es verkauft mal jemand nen 60-90er sprinter

Training 5.9.2012:
Henri Bienvenu Flach: +1
Stefan Küng Zeit: -1
Stefano Benni Berg: +1
Jean OlléOllé Berg: +1
Victor Fargas Berg: +1
Victor Fargas Flach: +1
Arni Steinsson Berg: +1

Okay.

Training 5.9.2012:
Blazej Bozovic Flach: -1
Allan MacBernick Abfahrt: -1
Martin Parkkola Zeit: -1
Bert Waalwijk Flach: +1
Arvydas Gardzijauskas Flach: +1
Aleksejs Rastorgujevs Flach: +1
Aleksejs Rastorgujevs Abfahrt: +1
Jaroslav Bozovic Flach: +1
Jaroslav Bozovic Sprint: +1
Senad Hasic Flach: +1
Marek Sajbok Flach: +1

Short one, no surprise at all

Training 5.9.2012:
Titus Olteanu Berg: -1
Titus Olteanu Zeit: -1
Zenzo Yamada Flach: +1
Daoquan Gao Sprint: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Berg: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Flach: +1
Nicola Buttu Berg: +1
Nicola Buttu Flach: +1
Rakhat Momyshuly Berg: +1
Rakhat Momyshuly Flach: +1

Doubles where needed plus Gao and Yamada, good enough for the apes

Training 5.9.2012:
Wolfgang Gröbner Berg: -1
Moritz Schönflies Flach: -1
Moritz Schönflies Abfahrt: -1
Maksim Maasikas Berg: -1
Maksim Maasikas Flach: -1
Maksim Maasikas Abfahrt: -1
Maksim Maasikas Zeit: -1
Maksim Maasikas Sprint: -1
Jeff Joker Abfahrt: -1
Adel Simbel Flach: -1
Adel Simbel Abfahrt: -1
Hieronymus Heuser Berg: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Berg: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Sprint: +1
Adam Ries Berg: +1
Adam Ries Flach: +1

Zeit dass die alten mal weggehen, diese langen trainings sind ja nicht auszuhalten. Gröbner verliert erstmals berg, flachfahrer alle ziemlich schwach aber mit hohen Prozenten. Bei den positiven eigentlich nur Boltzmann gut mit 2mal über 60 bzw 70% doppelt. Sonst nur 100% trainings, nix überraschendes

I know the experience... the best tactic is: Once you see one of the 36+ guys name pop up, go for a cigarette, make some coffee, make some obscene calls to strangers, whatever your hobby is and doesn't take more than 5'. Come back, and the Montandon-series, in your case Maasikas-series is over! No problem. But, actually once you got rid of all those master trainers, you will miss something. Todays training for example, it just seemed empty, so short, a different experience, a kind of 30" tact feeling, it's the same game as with the 1' tact, but somehow it just feels differently! So enjoy those long trainings while you can!

Robyklebt wrote:I know the experience... the best tactic is: Once you see one of the 36+ guys name pop up, go for a cigarette, make some coffee, make some obscene calls to strangers, whatever your hobby is and doesn't take more than 5'. Come back, and the Montandon-series, in your case Maasikas-series is over! No problem. But, actually once you got rid of all those master trainers, you will miss something. Todays training for example, it just seemed empty, so short, a different experience, a kind of 30" tact feeling, it's the same game as with the 1' tact, but somehow it just feels differently! So enjoy those long trainings while you can!

ja wäre wirklich langweilig gewesen sonst. Übrigens lag die Wahrscheinlichkeit dass Maksim alles auf einmal abtrainiert bei 8,5%, was für ein glückspilz

Training 12.9.2012:
Titus Olteanu Flach: -1
Titus Olteanu Abfahrt: -1
Michele Trapani Berg: +1
Daoquan Gao Sprint: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Berg: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Flach: +1
Nicola Buttu Berg: +1
Nicola Buttu Flach: +1
Nicolas Legrand Berg: +1
Rakhat Momyshuly Berg: +1
Rakhat Momyshuly Flach: +1

Excellent

Training 12.9.2012:
Joaquin Camacho Zeit: -1
Miguel Cervantes Berg: +1
Benito Salas Zeit: -1
Oscar Romero Berg: +1
Pedro Almodovar Abfahrt: -1
Eloy Alfaro Berg: +1
Eloy Alfaro Abfahrt: -1
Don Quijote Berg: +1
Juan Montalvo Zeit: -1
Francisco Santander Berg: +1
Francisco Santander Flach: +1

Training gets weirder (hard to say, if that's good or bad):
- Cervantes has always been a great training hero (+17 mountain, +3 flat, -1/+1 downhill, +1 TT, +12 sprint)
- the other classic riders like Cabral (no positive training since January) and Carrera (55-74 to 65-80) have been quite bad all the time
- Salas is just not interested in losing downhill (never covered downhill, lost it once in 34 tries)
- Roldos (22) managed to train nothing with 88% and 45% twice in a row. He sends some smiling regards

Training 12.9.2012:
Stefan Küng Flach: -1
Pit Schlechter Berg: -1
Pit Schlechter Flach: -1
Pit Schlechter Zeit: -1
Stefano Benni Berg: +1
Kari Steinsson Berg: +1
Victor Fargas Berg: +1
Victor Fargas Flach: +1

Walch and Bienvenu leave out flat, Küng and Schlechter train it instead, negatively. pfff... Rest is okay.

Training 12.9.2012:
Blazej Bozovic Abfahrt: -1
Blazej Bozovic Zeit: -1
Pavel Grzymkowiak Sprint: -1
Allan MacBernick Berg: -1
Allan MacBernick Flach: -1
Allan MacBernick Zeit: -1
Jon Arbuckle Abfahrt: -1
Martin Parkkola Abfahrt: -1
Roman Bezjak Flach: +1
Bert Waalwijk Flach: +1
Dominik Vilkovik Berg: +1
Dominik Vilkovik Flach: +1
Arvydas Gardzijauskas Flach: +1
Dalibor Galovec Berg: +1
Aleksejs Rastorgujevs Flach: +1
PerGunnar Tverendahl Zeit: -1
Jaroslav Bozovic Flach: +1
Jaroslav Bozovic Sprint: +1
Ondrej Kapovnik Abfahrt: -1
Marek Sajbok Flach: +1

Ouch, long one, Pavel and Allan already got some big malus, Blazej 2 useless malus
Roman Bezjak 6% flat good
Vilkovik doble with 25 years (8/20%)
Galovec 15% mountain good
the rest is ok, no big bad surprise, Kapovnik won't be as good as Stoffel it seems

Training 12.9.2012:
Wolfgang Gröbner Zeit: -1
Szolem Mandelbrojt Abfahrt: -1
Moritz Schönflies Abfahrt: -1
Moritz Schönflies Zeit: -1
Moritz Schönflies Sprint: -1
Maksim Maasikas Flach: -1
Maksim Maasikas Abfahrt: -1
Maksim Maasikas Sprint: -1
Jeff Joker Sprint: -1
Louis Auslander Abfahrt: -1
Carl Gauß Zeit: -1
Tom Kaulitz Flach: +1
Adel Simbel Berg: -1
Piama Tananahaakna Abfahrt: +1
Hieronymus Heuser Berg: +1
Alfred DeutschGerman Flach: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Sprint: +1
Adam Ries Berg: +1
Adam Ries Flach: +1

Joker down at 93 but still my best sprinter
Kaulitz up to 83-74-79 a hero (+3 since he came to the team)
Gauß (-4 since 25 no + since 26) kind of a total trainigs loser between 26 and 30
Rest ok: positve: Alfred, Piama
Ludwig with high risk training ok

Training 20.9.2012:
Bang Gong Zeit: -1
Zenzo Yamada Flach: +1
Thaddäus Häfeli Flach: +1
Daoquan Gao Sprint: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Berg: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Flach: +1
Nicola Buttu Berg: +1
Nicola Buttu Flach: +1
Nicolas Legrand Berg: +1
Rakhat Momyshuly Berg: +1

Trapani missing, but the rest make up for it, the flat stars and plus especially Legrand.

Training 20.9.2012:
Szolem Mandelbrojt Flach: -1
Moritz Schönflies Berg: -1
Moritz Schönflies Abfahrt: -1
Moritz Schönflies Zeit: -1
Adel Simbel Sprint: -1
Piama Tananahaakna Flach: +1
Hieronymus Heuser Berg: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Berg: +1
Ludwig Boltzmann Sprint: +1
Adam Ries Berg: +1
Adam Ries Flach: +1

The old ones doing great. Boltzmann again with a double training. Rest at 100%, Alfred doesnt really wanna train flat, lets see if he is the next auslander concerning the training

Training 20.9.2012:
Allan MacBernick Zeit: -1
Allan MacBernick Sprint: -1
Bert Waalwijk Flach: +1
Dominik Vilkovik Berg: +1
Dominik Vilkovik Abfahrt: -1
Arvydas Gardzijauskas Flach: +1
Dalibor Galovec Berg: +1
Aleksejs Rastorgujevs Flach: +1
Jaroslav Bozovic Flach: +1
Jaroslav Bozovic Sprint: +1
Ondrej Kapovnik Berg: +1
Senad Hasic Abfahrt: -1
Marek Sajbok Flach: +1

nice one

Training 20.9.2012:
Ricardo Quaresma Sprint: -1
Jorge CarreraAndrade Berg: +1
Pedro Almodovar Abfahrt: -1
Jaime Roldos Flach: +1
Jaime Roldos Zeit: +1
Don Quijote Berg: +1
Don Quijote Flach: +1
Francisco Santander Berg: +1
Francisco Santander Flach: +1

Certainly better than the last ones

Training 27.9.2012:
Marek Sajbok Flach: +1
Allan MacBernick Berg: -1
Bert Waalwijk Flach: +1
Dominik Vilkovik Berg: +1
Dominik Vilkovik Abfahrt: -1
Arvydas Gardzijauskas Flach: +1
Vasja Rupnik Zeit: -1
Aleksejs Rastorgujevs Flach: +1
PerGunnar Tverendahl Zeit: -1
Jaroslav Bozovic Berg: +1
Jaroslav Bozovic Sprint: +1

I take it

Training 27.9.2012:
Daoquan Gao Sprint: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Berg: +1
Pompiliu Scodreanu Flach: +1
Nicola Buttu Berg: +1
Nicola Buttu Flach: +1
Nicolas Legrand Berg: +1
Rakhat Momyshuly Berg: +1

Legrand!

Training 27.9.2012:
Ricardo Quaresma Abfahrt: -1
Benito Salas Zeit: -1
Eloy Alfaro Zeit: -1
Jaime Roldos Flach: +1
Jaime Roldos Zeit: +1
Don Quijote Berg: +1
Francisco Santander Berg: +1
Francisco Santander Flach: +1

Not much (Hello classic riders!?), but the important ones were there. Negative ones were also nice.

Alk is happy... Kyle does not train Berg with 90%...
so now he has 2 mountain points less than Quijote... next year will not be a crush between this 2 great riders

AlmavivaItalia wrote:Alk is happy... Kyle does not train Berg with 90%...
so now he has 2 mountain points less than Quijote... next year will not be a crush between this 2 great riders

So you took the unnecessary risk But the important trainings anyway come with 23-25 years, then you need to be lucky. There are and were countless (not literally) climbers who didn't finish their 23rd year of their simulated life with 81 and still turned into 87+ climbers.