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Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:16 pm
by IDF
But what you speak about troll names? It's just fictive names like 90% here...

Fictive isn't the same as realistic. Why with Dopotescu it wa ok ( same for Morgou and all... ) and not here? Just no logic i think.. that's why i ask here.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:41 pm
by Clawl0rd
its nothing personal,
im just mad about the randomness here

just to understand - the rule says "...or sound realistic" ?
few examples
the guy named "airplane" as lastname got trotteled, seems not to sound realistic
but "ell duderinho" is ok as a real name? i mean seriously? 3 ppl gave an ok to this one?
now we have kaclescu and dopotescu which both seem to be words never written before.. one is okay, one isnt

:?:

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:48 pm
by IDF
Bah , i can understand that my rider is without nationality but what it's definitive ( sometimes.. we can change , not here ) ? / and what my other riders had no problems?

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:32 am
by team fl
Clawl0rd wrote:its nothing personal,
im just mad about the randomness here

just to understand - the rule says "...or sound realistic" ?
few examples
the guy named "airplane" as lastname got trotteled, seems not to sound realistic
but "ell duderinho" is ok as a real name? i mean seriously? 3 ppl gave an ok to this one?
now we have kaclescu and dopotescu which both seem to be words never written before.. one is okay, one isnt

:?:
Were not necessarily three members of the NC. Time can do the same thing too.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:14 am
by IDF
Can i (re)choose Moldavia or not this time? ^^

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:44 am
by RS Ostfriesland
give it a try :lol:

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:47 pm
by IDF
And seriously? :P

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:16 pm
by RS Ostfriesland
Give it a try idf :)

Its a problem in our rules. A name must be realistic oder is sounding realistic enough?
We are talking about that case.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:32 pm
by IDF
i choose Romania , sounds more realistic for me. :)

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:56 pm
by RS Ostfriesland
i see no different between both. :)

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:57 pm
by Moscow Team Pro
My rider Stybar has no more now its nationality in the Czech Republic after 6 seasons. The rider has in fact 26 years old. Can you explain why? Thank you.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:39 pm
by Hunsrueck
Moscow Team Pro wrote:My rider Stybar has no more now its nationality in the Czech Republic after 6 seasons. The rider has in fact 26 years old. Can you explain why? Thank you.
Because he is a clone and before anyone noticed.

Realname: Zdeněk Štybar
Your Guy: Dsnesk Stybar

And the i found no Dsnesk

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:08 pm
by Moscow Team Pro
listen I want to be nice, quiet and understandable.

I'll explain:

I bought the runner at age 22, when the name had already been given and nationality as well. If he had not nationality I would not have bought it, because it never ever would buy a runner without nationality, in fact rarely buy a rider who is not a twenty-something to which I can give the name.


as you can see from this link I have not given it the name it nationality, I bought it already so.: https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0604,d.Yms

Second, the runner is 26 years old. There are 6 seasons running with this name and nationality.

I therefore ask to be given back to my nationality runner.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:48 pm
by Hunsrueck
Moscow Team Pro wrote:listen I want to be nice, quiet and understandable.

I'll explain:

I bought the runner at age 22, when the name had already been given and nationality as well. If he had not nationality I would not have bought it, because it never ever would buy a runner without nationality, in fact rarely buy a rider who is not a twenty-something to which I can give the name.


as you can see from this link I have not given it the name it nationality, I bought it already so.: https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0604,d.Yms

Second, the runner is 26 years old. There are 6 seasons running with this name and nationality.

I therefore ask to be given back to my nationality runner.
I understand you, but this does not change the thing.

Call it bad luck

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:27 pm
by Moscow Team Pro
Hunsrueck wrote: I understand you, but this does not change the thing.

Call it bad luck
I still do not understand.

It seems to me a process in which I was condemned as guilty regardless .

Without hearing my defense , without evaluating any good behavior or history of the team.

Are tolerated misbehavior , multi player and much more and I am so convicted me. Team player and always correct and respectful of the rules and the opponent.

What is my fault ? That none of this committee has been wanting to check the nationality of rider Stybar Dznesk for 39 days , this is the period when you had to name and nationality at the time when it was purchased by me .

I have spent 1,800,000 to buy a rider that has Czech nationality , I find myself now after 120 days without a runner nationality.

Please go and see the history and conduct of my team , never a runner with unreal names , never a clone , never a runner which has been deprived of the nationality, never a runner purchased without nationality, in more than three years .

I believe that all of these factors must be considered, I think we can not stiffen judgment on this matter .

Thank you.

MOSCOW

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:02 pm
by Hunsrueck
Last statement on my part.

The rider is a clone and therefore I have revoked his nationality.

And I do not have to judge whether a team was fair or unfair. Or if you ever had riders without a nation.

With so many drivers need to be checked by a slip sometimes. As I said you had just pitch.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:08 pm
by Moscow Team Pro
Is there a way to approach the judgment of someone else or commands and decide everything yourself? Why I would like this situation is taken into account by other members of this committee.

thanks

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:10 pm
by RS Ostfriesland
Hey moscow,

this is not only Hunsruck decision.
Many new riders are there every day and we have to check all of them. This is not an easy job. We can make mistakes and we can also overlook a rider, like yours this time. We are sorry that we found him so late, but if we give him his passport back, every team can make a clone and say "hey i want it the way moscow made it". Thats not the way we can bring you a clear and direct handling for choosing names for your riders.

I hope you can understand this.

my idea (not as a committee member)
Ask buh if hes able to implement a function, that we can change names of riders, like we have in this case.

greetings osti

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:56 am
by lesossies
Hey Moscow,
In this specialcase, I could change the name and natonality of your rider.
Send me your wish.

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:26 am
by Allagen
Erhard Mahlknecht lost his nationality?

sounds funny for an italian sportler with 8 medals for his country....


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Mahlknecht


so i changed it again into italian....

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:25 pm
by luques
Allagen wrote:Erhard Mahlknecht lost his nationality?

sounds funny for an italian sportler with 8 medals for his country....


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Mahlknecht


so i changed it again into italian....

Hihi, sounds funny that an italian with 8 medals doesn't have a wiki italian page. Btw i guess they will accept it ;)

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:51 pm
by team fl
luques wrote:
Allagen wrote:Erhard Mahlknecht lost his nationality?

sounds funny for an italian sportler with 8 medals for his country....


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Mahlknecht


so i changed it again into italian....

Hihi, sounds funny that an italian with 8 medals doesn't have a wiki italian page. Btw i guess they will accept it ;)
Never!!! Not in (Italian) Wiki = doesn't exist!

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:17 pm
by Hunsrueck
Allagen wrote:Erhard Mahlknecht lost his nationality?

sounds funny for an italian sportler with 8 medals for his country....


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Mahlknecht


so i changed it again into italian....

Fu..ng Südtirol :oops:

Done

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:41 am
by deuseburger
moin miteinander
mit datum vom 05.03. erreichte mich folgende nachricht:
Änderung der Nationalität von Alexander Pavlov:, "Suid-Afrika" zu "frei wählbar"
Begründung: #falscheNation#

das hatten wir schonmal, genau genommen schon 3x, hier einige seiten zurück nach zu lesen...
nochmal der link zum real existierenden fahrer:
http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/spor ... s_2557.htm

soderle, jezze zum kuriosum, der fahrer hat entgegen der benachrichtigung noch immer seine korrekte (südafrikanische) nationalität, statenlos geworden ist hingegen neuzugang gareth barry (zimbabwe) keine ahnung obs dran liegt das pavlov sein limit an passänderungen bereits überschritten hat, oder wo auch immer der fehler liegt... jedenfalls werde ich gareth wieder zimbabwe zu weisen, falls hier zweifel bestehen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_C ... Federation
quote daraus:
Some noteworthy and well respected names in recent Zimbabwean cycling history are Gareth Barry, .......

cheers deuse

Re: Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:30 am
by RS Ostfriesland
Kümmere mich darum Boss!