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I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
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Hi!
Lorenzo vonMatterhorn lost his passport. Maybe someone can help him.
http://www.lorenzovonmatterhorn.com/
Thx, CC
Lorenzo vonMatterhorn lost his passport. Maybe someone can help him.
http://www.lorenzovonmatterhorn.com/
Thx, CC
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You know that this is a fake (like this too: btw. the same as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Hosp ... mer_pupils) and relates to the TV series "how I met your mother"? -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo%20 ... edirect=noCircleCycle wrote:Hi!
Lorenzo vonMatterhorn lost his passport. Maybe someone can help him.
http://www.lorenzovonmatterhorn.com/
Thx, CC
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I know, but i don't get your point?!
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My point is that this is not a real nor realistic name. And that's why he is stateless.CircleCycle wrote:I know, but i don't get your point?!
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Not realistic?!
it is a fake character in a tv series. There wasn't a problem with e.g. Erwin Schoitl, Edmund Sackbauer and so on, which are all characters in a tv series (and by the way much better series than this american stuff ). Have to admit though, that these guys are not fake characters.
And in the source i cited it says "...was born somewhere in Switzerland..."
So even though he is fake, he is "Swiss fake".
it is a fake character in a tv series. There wasn't a problem with e.g. Erwin Schoitl, Edmund Sackbauer and so on, which are all characters in a tv series (and by the way much better series than this american stuff ). Have to admit though, that these guys are not fake characters.
And in the source i cited it says "...was born somewhere in Switzerland..."
So even though he is fake, he is "Swiss fake".
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Yes, not realistic. First, this name doesnt exist in reality. Second, the Matterhorn is a very specific thing with a specific name that does not derivate from a person (Although "Matter" would be no problem, but horn definitily is somthing that is specific for a certain landscape). It's a mountain. In Switzerland. Very popular. It's absolutely not realistic at all, that somebody is called "von Matterhorn".CircleCycle wrote:Not realistic?!
it is a fake character in a tv series. There wasn't a problem with e.g. Erwin Schoitl, Edmund Sackbauer and so on, which are all characters in a tv series (and by the way much better series than this american stuff ). Have to admit though, that these guys are not fake characters.
And in the source i cited it says "...was born somewhere in Switzerland..."
So even though he is fake, he is "Swiss fake".
From wiki:
Der deutsche Name Matterhorn leitet sich vermutlich von der „Matte“ ab, also der grasbewachsenen Talweitung unterhalb der Gornerschlucht, die heute fast komplett vom Dorf Zermatt („zur Matt“) bedeckt ist.
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Ok.... thanks for telling me what the Matterhorn is, but I'm not that ignorant, so i already heard about it
Anyway... Won't discuss this any longer. IMO it should be okay, to give him Swiss Nationality, as i could at least cite something.... on the other hand I unterstand your point now (partly) and after some research I found noone in the swiss telephonebook with the name "Matterhorn". Clever as I am, I started to search the swedisch one for my fictional guys (Hamilton, Stalhandske) and would you believe it? I found them! Carl Hamilton indeed exists!
Back to vonMatterhorn... If he stays stateless, its okay for me, but of course I would be happy if he gets it back.
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Anyway... Won't discuss this any longer. IMO it should be okay, to give him Swiss Nationality, as i could at least cite something.... on the other hand I unterstand your point now (partly) and after some research I found noone in the swiss telephonebook with the name "Matterhorn". Clever as I am, I started to search the swedisch one for my fictional guys (Hamilton, Stalhandske) and would you believe it? I found them! Carl Hamilton indeed exists!
Back to vonMatterhorn... If he stays stateless, its okay for me, but of course I would be happy if he gets it back.
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My former rider "Lance Hardwood" was ok.
This was also not real nor realistic and from the same series
This was also not real nor realistic and from the same series
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people don't seem to get it. It's not because it's a fictional character. It's because the name is against the rules: doesn't exist and even not realistic. I think i explained it well enough.flockmastoR wrote:My former rider "Lance Hardwood" was ok.
This was also not real nor realistic and from the same series
Hardwood? Which nationality? US ? Sounds realituc to me. Besides the fact that such comparisons always lack of comparability.
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The mistake was that I made a "fake swiss" with a fake swiss name. Obviously the fact "Swiss" was the problem. Most likely there wouldn't have been objections to a guy called "Johann vonReichenstein" with Austrian flag.
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The name was the problem. Not the citizenship.
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So a "Johann vonReichenstein" would be ok?
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Better try the name in germany - in austria its not allowed to have an aristocratic "von" in your nameCircleCycle wrote:So a "Johann vonReichenstein" would be ok?
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oh fl, jetzt habe ich mir doch mal wirklich mühe gegeben:)
Änderung der Nationalität von Mokin Malampa:, "Vanuatu" zu "Staatenlos"
also:
Honorable Mr Mokin Stevens Iatika
http://www.vanuafoot.vu/News/ViewArticl ... cfb7e-352e... Im Cache
der vorname sollte doch passen
Malampa
Die Provinz Malampa ist eine Inselregion des südpazifischen Inselstaats Vanuatu. Sie liegt südlich der ebenfalls zu Vanuatu zählenden Provinzen Sanma und Penama, und nördlich von Shefa.
heißt für mich, wenn es einen günter berlin oder knud hamburg gibt, sollte doch auch ein mokin malampa durchgehen
Hamburg Knud
Droopweg, 20... Hamburg, Hamm
Berlin Günter
Rosenfelder Ring
10... Berlin
Änderung der Nationalität von Mokin Malampa:, "Vanuatu" zu "Staatenlos"
also:
Honorable Mr Mokin Stevens Iatika
http://www.vanuafoot.vu/News/ViewArticl ... cfb7e-352e... Im Cache
der vorname sollte doch passen
Malampa
Die Provinz Malampa ist eine Inselregion des südpazifischen Inselstaats Vanuatu. Sie liegt südlich der ebenfalls zu Vanuatu zählenden Provinzen Sanma und Penama, und nördlich von Shefa.
heißt für mich, wenn es einen günter berlin oder knud hamburg gibt, sollte doch auch ein mokin malampa durchgehen
Hamburg Knud
Droopweg, 20... Hamburg, Hamm
Berlin Günter
Rosenfelder Ring
10... Berlin
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Den Malampa gibts aber nocht und es ist auch nicht üblich in Vanuatu Leute nach Provinzen zu benennen. Erfüllt also klar die regeln nicht, da weder real existierend noch realistisch.
Edith fügt noch hinzu: Lasst doch bitte diese sinnlosen Namen-Ländervergleiche.
Edith fügt noch hinzu: Lasst doch bitte diese sinnlosen Namen-Ländervergleiche.
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Hey,
I got 2 riders who are in trouble.
1- Joop Vuurwater, holland. His name is dutch. Even if Vuurwater probably doesn't exist as a name, it's still a dutch word, and sounds realistic enough as a name to be accepted, imo. Would be nice to have the flag back.
2- Smeagol Trahald, norway. Trahald seems to be an old norse word... But ok, it's a bit hard to defend, I must admit. Although he has a real linkedin profile, so if that's what you need to accept it, here you go : https://www.linkedin.com/pub/sm%C3%A9ag ... /8/5a2/321
I got 2 riders who are in trouble.
1- Joop Vuurwater, holland. His name is dutch. Even if Vuurwater probably doesn't exist as a name, it's still a dutch word, and sounds realistic enough as a name to be accepted, imo. Would be nice to have the flag back.
2- Smeagol Trahald, norway. Trahald seems to be an old norse word... But ok, it's a bit hard to defend, I must admit. Although he has a real linkedin profile, so if that's what you need to accept it, here you go : https://www.linkedin.com/pub/sm%C3%A9ag ... /8/5a2/321
Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo...
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We'll check it.NoPikouze wrote:Hey,
I got 2 riders who are in trouble.
1- Joop Vuurwater, holland. His name is dutch. Even if Vuurwater probably doesn't exist as a name, it's still a dutch word, and sounds realistic enough as a name to be accepted, imo. Would be nice to have the flag back.
2- Smeagol Trahald, norway. Trahald seems to be an old norse word... But ok, it's a bit hard to defend, I must admit. Although he has a real linkedin profile, so if that's what you need to accept it, here you go : https://www.linkedin.com/pub/sm%C3%A9ag ... /8/5a2/321
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ihr macht euch aber wirklich mühe. klar gibt es diesen namen noch nicht (vermutlich, man kann ja nicht jeden kennen). aber malampa und mokin ist und klingt realistisch nach vanatu als entspricht es doch den regeln.team fl wrote:Den Malampa gibts aber nocht und es ist auch nicht üblich in Vanuatu Leute nach Provinzen zu benennen. Erfüllt also klar die regeln nicht, da weder real existierend noch realistisch.
Edith fügt noch hinzu: Lasst doch bitte diese sinnlosen Namen-Ländervergleiche.
1. OK
Dies bedeutet, dass der Fahrername real existiert oder zumindest so realistisch klingt, dass man ihn akzeptieren kann und eine passende Nation hat. Wenn 3 Komiteemitglieder ihr OK geben, ist der Fahrername genehmigt und erscheint nicht mehr in der Liste der „aktuellen Namensanträge“.
es ist wohl nirgendwo "üblich" jemand nach einer provinz, stadt, staat zu nennen, doch kommt es überall vor.
hab aber auch keine problem damit wenn der junge staatenlos bleibt, ist nur ein spiel hier
p.s. ihr seit wirklich top wenn ihr wisst was in vanatu üblich ist und was nicht
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seid
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Wenn du belegen kannst, dass es in Vanuatu üblich bzw. realistisch ist, tu das und wir ändern das gerne. Nur weil es in anderen Ländern vorkommt, lässt das nicht auf ein andere bestimmtes Land schliessen. Ausserdem muss man auch immer den Hintergrund des Namens kennen. Huhn-Ei-Prinzip. Liechtenstein z.B. wurde nach dem Namen der Fürstenfamilie benannt, nicht umgekehrt. Ein gute Beispiel wäre hier auch Lorenzo von Matterhorn, weiter oben im Thread nachzulesen.stemmi wrote:ihr macht euch aber wirklich mühe. klar gibt es diesen namen noch nicht (vermutlich, man kann ja nicht jeden kennen). aber malampa und mokin ist und klingt realistisch nach vanatu als entspricht es doch den regeln.team fl wrote:Den Malampa gibts aber nocht und es ist auch nicht üblich in Vanuatu Leute nach Provinzen zu benennen. Erfüllt also klar die regeln nicht, da weder real existierend noch realistisch.
Edith fügt noch hinzu: Lasst doch bitte diese sinnlosen Namen-Ländervergleiche.
1. OK
Dies bedeutet, dass der Fahrername real existiert oder zumindest so realistisch klingt, dass man ihn akzeptieren kann und eine passende Nation hat. Wenn 3 Komiteemitglieder ihr OK geben, ist der Fahrername genehmigt und erscheint nicht mehr in der Liste der „aktuellen Namensanträge“.
es ist wohl nirgendwo "üblich" jemand nach einer provinz, stadt, staat zu nennen, doch kommt es überall vor.
hab aber auch keine problem damit wenn der junge staatenlos bleibt, ist nur ein spiel hier
p.s. ihr seit wirklich top wenn ihr wisst was in vanatu üblich ist und was nicht
Und natürlich recherchieren wir, wenn eine so abenteurliche Begründung für einen Namen benutzt wird. Dafür gibt es das Internet. Das hat mit top sein nichts zu tun. Obwohl wir das natürlich sind. Besonders, wenn generell Namen von Provinzen, Vulkanen, Städten etc. hergenommen werden mit dem Argument "klingt doch realistisch". Wie jedes chinesische Schimpfwort für uns wahrscheinlich wie ein Name tönt, ganz realistisch. Hat der Herr Klebt auch schon mal ausgeführt.
Wenn du dir übrigens wirklich Mühe geben würdest, dann würdest du real existierende Namen benutzen. Auch das kann man im Internet leicht recherchieren.
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Disagree! You can make an effort and "create" realistic sounding names.team fl wrote:Wenn du dir übrigens wirklich Mühe geben würdest, dann würdest du real existierende Namen benutzen. Auch das kann man im Internet leicht recherchieren.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Well, that would be an effort indeed. But I thought he meant that he made an effort to make it easier for us to pass the name. And then, the easiest way is to use real real names. Or lets say a real existing family name at least. Maybe the word "effort" gives the wrong impressionRobyklebt wrote:Disagree! You can make an effort and "create" realistic sounding names.team fl wrote:Wenn du dir übrigens wirklich Mühe geben würdest, dann würdest du real existierende Namen benutzen. Auch das kann man im Internet leicht recherchieren.
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But the point isn't really to make it easier for you!
The point is to give names you like that let your rider keep his nationality.
The point is to give names you like that let your rider keep his nationality.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Ok, you didn't get it, I think. He wrote that he made an effort to make it easier for us (That's what I understood). I wrote that if that would be the case, he would have just taken a real existing name (At least that's what I've meant). No general statement about giving a rider a name intended.Robyklebt wrote:But the point isn't really to make it easier for you!
The point is to give names you like that let your rider keep his nationality.
And the second point is of course perfectly right.
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