Nationenkomitee / Nations Committee

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Hi all,

I gave my Mexican rider the name Maljero Flores. It was denounced due to the First name? Flores being one of the top 10 surnames in Mexico. Is there no leeway in first names either? Tbh I find that a bit strange, I tried a Mexican sounding first name and thought I did pretty well, isn't this a bit too strict?

Seeing several of the first names being agreed in general, aI must admit i expected this to be okay.

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Hi all,

I gave my Mexican rider the name Maljero Flores. It was denounced due to the First name? Flores being one of the top 10 surnames in Mexico. Is there no leeway in first names either? Tbh I find that a bit strange, I tried a Mexican sounding first name and thought I did pretty well, isn't this a bit too strict?

Seeing several of the first names being agreed in general, aI must admit i expected this to be okay.

Yeah its about his first name. I think in general some leeway is fine but there is also the fact that this is not a fantasy game so sometimes there is a fine line. In this case in my research 1st i found no evidence that it is a real given name. 2nd mal is spanish for bad and i found something in combination with jero that suggested that it could mean something like bad guy or bad boy or something like that.. and that doesnt strike me as a proper given name for someone.
At least thats the reason i rejected it after doing my research.

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I guess what you mean is Pajero, which is used as an insult in certain spanish speaking countries. That's why there is no Mitsubishi Pajero in some countries, but a Montero. Anyway, the literal translation is far away from insulting. And so is Maljero. If you ask me, although it might not exist as a given name, it sounds pretty realistic.

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yeah heard of that one too. but thats not what i meant.. i meant what i wrote before ..strangely cant find it now tho .. but even without the specific meaning it still leaves the prefix mal .. i agree on first glance it might sound right .. but with spanish in mind it sounds like the name jero with bad in front ..so like bad jero.. thats kinda like an english name badjay or böswilly in german speaking countries... idk it just doesnt feel right to me .. but thats just me and if everyone else would be fine with it then so be it

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The ending is not jero but ero

indicating a profession/occupation (like panadero from pan for baker), a place/container (like salero for salt shaker), or sometimes personality traits/characteristics (like callejero for a street-dwarter/wanderer), or even types of trees/plants. It transforms nouns into roles, locations, or descriptive adjectives, often meaning "one who does/deals with X" or "a place for X

So the prefix would be malj-, not mal. Does not exist, but still sounds realistic (in my view).

The literal translation for pajero is a hay seller, a "vendedor of paja". The insult in south america is from another mesning though: Pampaskatze...

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The ending is not jero but ero

indicating a profession/occupation (like panadero from pan for baker), a place/container (like salero for salt shaker), or sometimes personality traits/characteristics (like callejero for a street-dwarter/wanderer), or even types of trees/plants. It transforms nouns into roles, locations, or descriptive adjectives, often meaning "one who does/deals with X" or "a place for X

So the prefix would be malj-, not mal. Does not exist, but still sounds realistic (in my view).

The literal translation for pajero is a hay seller, a "vendedor of paja". The insult in south america is from another mesning though: Pampaskatze...

no no thats a misunderstanding i wasnt referencing the pajero stuff you mentioned before.. just see now that it could lead to confusion about what i meant..wasnt aware when answering^^
pretty simple ..jero is an actual first name .. so maljero would mean bad jero ... or like for example maldiego would then mean bad diego ..or like the examples in other languages i gave before.. thats why i dont think its a name someone would give their son in a spanish speaking country... who would call their son bad+whatevername
i hope you now understand what i mean.. if you agree with that is ofc another question^^

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Ik had no idea tbh was just looking for a nice spanish spunding name. If it's not allowed its too bad, because id prefer my riders coming from countries, but if not I'll live.

Basically I tried to change my last name to a first name and my first name to a last name ^^

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i totally understand you and like i said before at first glance it might look like a normal name for many ..but for me it looked a bit strange from the get go.. but like i said maybe thats just me im not an expert on spanish names.. i always try to find reasons to accept as many names as possible coz i dont want to have any trottels in the game but accepting something that feels wrong doesnt do it for me either... but thats why were more than one in the NC .. so if im the only one seeing it that way i wouldnt be against acccepting it ofc..
in general there are names that look totally fine for people not knowing a language or naming conventions of a language but dont make sense if you look closer.. i have some riders in my team as well that shouldnt have been accepted ...but i only know that now after we had the problem with the autogenerated riders names where the first names didnt fit the last ones.. was never aware of that and thought these names are totally fine.. but they are in fact nonsensical well different case than with your rider ofc
sometimes its really tricky and a question where you draw the line... being too strict and accepting almost everything seems pretty close sometimes

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Just explored some teams and found the rider "Udo Jürgens" who was trotteled just like a month ago. While I am more furious that I now cannot use this beautiful name myself, I wonder how anybody would come to the conclusion to trottel Udo?

If you thought this is a rhetorical question. It is not. I really want an explanation. This is clearly against the NC rules (the name is real). Making errors is human, but I just want to make sure you also see an error there.

You ignored me 2 times already on this topic.

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Just explored some teams and found the rider "Udo Jürgens" who was trotteled just like a month ago. While I am more furious that I now cannot use this beautiful name myself, I wonder how anybody would come to the conclusion to trottel Udo?

Any chance I get an answer on this.

im not 100% sure but i think i remember that this guy was just tagged as wrong country .. i think australia was selescted as his nation.. but not 100% like i said ..idk if his still available in the list ..i can take a look
edit: ah just see its too long ago ..or is there a way to access archived ones?

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so if im the only one seeing it that way i wouldnt be against acccepting it ofc..

The NC system makes it so at least two members accept the decision to work, so you're not the only one. If the NC memebers are bad that's something else lol.

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good point