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TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:45 pm
by Belgian Team
Hi, i have an idea about the transfermarkt!

We know that now some players are only for D1-D4 and others for D5. I think that:
- it's not nice (if i have some founds, why can i not buy a rider?) for the small teams
- sometimes there are some stars only for D5. Why? All the team can buy all the riders for me!

Can Buhmann make something about it? I want a rider sinds a lot of dans, and i just understand that i never can buy him. That's stupid. He's on the transfermarkt from a long moment.

Can you minimum let the riders for all the teams after some days on the transfermarkt?

Milady.

Re: Transfermarkt

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:20 pm
by Buhmann
First: Totally wrong forum for this. Why did you choose "bug"? And the title in german and not very clear...

In Division 5-6 are better riders (in age of 25+), because we wanted that new teams can win, too. But we don´t want that Div1-4 teams can buy such riders. Because of that all riders of Div 5-6 teams which are sold should be only for 5-6 teams. Useres who played the game since month should buy young riders or some rider which are well-known. Not very good riders which are totally unknown. The good riders at the TM for Div5-6 are only a help for beginners.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:28 pm
by Belgian Team
I did wrong, ok sorry.

But what happened for riders who are dying on the MARKET? I repeat: i see one rider that i want since long days. It's a pity.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:30 pm
by gaurain rx
I agree with Belgian on 1 point. Why don't we let the possibility to all teams to buy a rider when he's on the market since a long time (more than 1 month or so)!

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:59 pm
by Cerro Torre RT
One point may be that farm teams in div5/6 can not help any team in the other divisions.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:11 pm
by VC Aywaille
I agree with Gaurain! (with Blgian too but i don't have choice OUCH :lol:)

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:25 am
by gaurain rx
Well, and why not oppening the Div 1-4 buying market to the team of div 5-6? The thing you want to avoid is the buying of div 5-6 riders by div 1-4 managers!

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:33 am
by Robyklebt
Other thing we want to avoid:

New team, shit teams, D5 Teams buying good famous riders, doesn't even have to be a star. A Wassissi, a Kilian Degré, both fairly famous, let's say sold, D5 Team buys him, stops after 2 weeks, the famous or known rider dies in the team. Happened before, happened often, my LBL winner Zhou Kaicheng ended up like that. Not good, even horrible.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:46 am
by VC Aywaille
Is it a reason to let this penalty for all the D5 who don't stop after 2 weeks?

I know a D5 who is thinking to stop soon because this difference with the 1-4 teams... :cry:

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:56 pm
by Luna
He should be more patient. That's appropriate in any case.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:32 pm
by Belgian Team
I am not ok with this!!! I form my new team sinds 5 month. I am not patient??? In some games you have the same rights in D5 than in D1! If you can buy, who can say that you have no rights to make this? I can send you 2 riders and the skills: with this i am ready for 6 month on the top (D4-D3-D2 and maybe D1). I must be patient? NO! Why must i wait i have 4.000.000 to buy riders! I understand that it's beter for the D1to4 teams... But i can say that if i don't receive the same rights i don't buy the licence next month (why? No interest for me in D5 and without making tours), and maybe it's the end of my career here. Don't think i say this to receive the riders. It's bigger: that can kill my little pleasure.

The big and nice ideas... I am alone to know what is good for my team, and i have enough experience to know how making a nice team for the little tours. Nothing stop my progression except this. This is BAD!

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:34 pm
by Belgian Team
Luna wrote:He should be more patient.
And it's "she" for me. :)

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:42 pm
by NoPikouze
I don't really understand, it's quite easy to reach D4. Even for new teams who play on a regular basis. You only need to understand the game. So what's the problem ?

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:43 pm
by Bear
Looks like attempted extortion to me :D

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:50 pm
by Buhmann
Try to be promoted in Div4. So where is the problem? I think in every game you will have disadvantages in the lower leagues. Here you have even instead some advantages.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:52 pm
by Belgian Team
The problem? I cannot catch the D4 this month. In 1 month 1/3 these riders are dead... I receive an invisible penalty to be in D5. Can you say me why? Is there a serious reason? The beginners have all the D6 to understand the game. I repeat, i see 2 riders that i CAN buy, and who make a big team with mine. Why i cannot? Not enough experience? It's a joke i think. If i buy the licence, it's the same price in D5 than in D1to4... Why not the same possibilities?

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:55 pm
by Bear
Just ride some races and you will be soon in D4. Don't see the problem either.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:56 pm
by Belgian Team
I don't see interest to justify more, it change nothing in this funny rule. Belgian Team come not far from the exit door.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:57 pm
by Belgian Team
Bear wrote:Just ride some races and you will be soon in D4. Don't see the problem either.
The problem, you don't give an argument who destroy my reflexion... This is an invisible penalty and i don't accept to pay a licence this month because i have this penalty... To ride more ok, not because this. All minutes past i have more chances that my riders go away.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:05 pm
by Lizard
I don't see a reason to have advantages in gameplay when buying the license. 1st it's an option to support this game and 2nd you get to ride the huge races e.g. Yes, it is an advantage, but even not having a license the possibilites for each manager are equal and to get the big riders you have to put a little effort in promoting up to Div 4, not "buying" the riders by license. Who's got the skill can buy them. Furthermore, Div 5 transfer market is 120% better than Div 1-4, plenty good riders. AND you say you have the ability to build a good team? Then buy young riders and train them from there. Buying grown riders with 88-55-78 e.g. is not good teambuilding, it's only being lucky to find such a rider.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:09 pm
by Belgian Team
Haha i don't see any interest for my team (you know i am able to have a reflexion about the management of my team) to buy young riders to form it. These riders interest me for their age too... You want 3 pavemans for the Tour de France you?

I don't have more answer: why this rule? (i cannot make more visible) No reason for me. But ok i have my decision, after the race today i stop the game. The pleasure is away with this rule. The little effort i make the last month: i buy a team and i gain a lot of money. More efforts. Too many for no good reason.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:22 pm
by NoPikouze
Belgian Team wrote:why this rule?
-avoid farming transfers
-keep new/inactive teams from buying "famous" riders
-keep a balanced level for all the group 2 teams (I guess)
And probably several other reasons...

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:25 pm
by Belgian Team
NoPikouze wrote:
Belgian Team wrote:why this rule?
-avoid farming transfers
-keep new/inactive teams from buying "famous" riders
-keep a balanced level for all the group 2 teams (I guess)
And probably several other reasons...
-avoid farming transfers -> riders from D5 ok, a team from D5 who buy a rider from D1-4...
-keep new/inactive teams from buying "famous" riders -> just put a simply rule: after 6 weeks of inactivity all the riders on the market...
-keep a balanced level for all the group 2 teams (I guess) -> And when you come in D4 (groupe 1 generally) without founds to change your riders?
And probably several other reasons...

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:37 pm
by Luna
Belgian Team wrote:
Luna wrote:He should be more patient.
And it's "she" for me. :)
Sorry ;)


You must see that you have only ridden 8 races this month. Had you ridden more, you would already stand in the ranks that would qualify for the promotion. Furthermore you could look for a rider that owns some ranking points, what could help you make the higher ranks inside D5.

All the teams in D5 are treated the same. They are your rivals for the moment. Not the D1-4 teams. Orient yourself to beat them, at least as long as you're D5. After that you will be happy to buy whoever you can get. Then you can match the other teams.

I honestly wish you good luck.

Re: TM: Partition of Div1-4 and Div5-6

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:44 pm
by Buhmann
Why this rule, why this rule...you have 34923 answers here in this thread.

The riders which were in Div 1-4 don´t want to ride in such a low league. I think this is quite normal for manager-game. And we here there are much more reasons for this (no, i won´t repeat them, read the posts before).

And this all have not anything to do with the licence...why do you speak so often about that?