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Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:38 am
by Rockstar Inc
Dear Mr. Buhmann, i think i'm not the only one who hates this bullshit. There are a lot of teams who buy every 2,3 month their riders, train them and sell the riders with a big revenue without doing just one race in this time.
Is there a way to stop this crap, are there some ideas from your or the community to prevent this shit?
For example Juggalo-Racing...this SoB bought 9 time trial riders at the 1.7.
in the past few month the same and the same and the same...
another example..JPS...he farmed and sold his riders in the past 6 month and now he got a team with a price of ca. 24 Mio...11 21 years old riders...
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:09 am
by Lizard
Ideas were already posted ... Lecce suggested to make riders with no races have equal sell value like in the beginning of their career... so if bought for 2.500.000 Credits, will be sold for the same and not more.
For me not dynamic enough. Only the ones without ANY races will be left out here (which would be many, but they will do something against this rule).
My suggestion is different: Riders lose price value each day when the team doesn´t ride a race. So you will automatically be forced to ride at least some races each month to prevent the riders from falling in price. Something like -2% everyday, but with one extra: Teams riding 5 (or 10) races or more per month will not be involved with this rule - means, if you ride less than 5 (or 10) races in a month the riders will automatically start falling in price from the first day. If more races ridden, no prob.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:14 am
by bergwerk cycling
Very easy: You can only sell for the same price you have buyed ... and not for more money ... easy and than its over.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:20 am
by Luna
Very good idea
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:51 am
by NoPikouze
What about: Cannot buy young riders if you didnt ride 5 races in the previous month (or something like that)
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:54 pm
by Quick
Actually you buy your rider from the TM(not from the youth tm...but could be changed too) and the next 50 days you get 1% more each day, if you want to sell. Why not make it with races, and only about 30? Farming would be completely over.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:59 pm
by NoPikouze
The 50% doesnt apply in div 5 and 6 at the moment
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:02 pm
by Buhmann
bergwerk cycling wrote:Very easy: You can only sell for the same price you have buyed ... and not for more money ... easy and than its over.
Do you see any problems with this? it is a problem, that some teams make money with this? Or would it be a problem, that it wouldn´t possible? Could be a good and simple solution...
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:08 pm
by bergwerk cycling
i have no problem with this ... but many others you can read it here or in another thread ... and that is an easy solution for that.
Auf deutsch: Mir ist das völlig Schnuppe, wenn da Leute Spass dran haben sollen sie es machen, solange sie nicht mit 2 oder mehr Teams haben und diese abwechslend benutzen.
Aber mit dieser einfachen Möglichkeit, ist da sofort vorbei.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:23 pm
by Radunion
Buhmann wrote:bergwerk cycling wrote:Very easy: You can only sell for the same price you have buyed ... and not for more money ... easy and than its over.
Do you see any problems with this? it is a problem, that some teams make money with this? Or would it be a problem, that it wouldn´t possible? Could be a good and simple solution...
This would make it very unattractive to sell riders while they are still useful for other teams, taking away a major advantage for small teams, the ability to trade riders with limited loss. At least make it 100 % instead of 100 % - Tax.
In my opinion it would be enough to eliminate the bonus for selling young riders. This should limit the profits of farming enough to make it unattractive.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:27 pm
by Robyklebt
Disadvantage: Doesn't help the small non-farming teams that right now sometimes partly rely on that extra money they get when a leader doesn't train as they had hoped, still can sell him with a little profit. Personally never had a problem with that. But on the other hand I don't really have a problem if they don't get that safety anymore either.
But it makes the boring JPS way impossible, stealing young riders from others and only use them for their own monetary benefit. Good thing.
Generally in favor here.
Don't forget the killing of the 15% youth rule!
And in the long term you might have to think about a bigger Transfermarket change.... but do your design thing first.
Oh, a Buhmann post I don't really get there now... will have to think.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:28 pm
by auxilium torino
I do not think changing a lot ... I do two new teams, and continue to cultivate young ...
for each team leaving a good ... ok
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:12 pm
by Luna
If the selling price stays the same regardless of how good or bad a rider trains, then it rather helps the managers with bad training results because they can simply sell the rider and buy a new one without any financial loss (while for now riders get cheaper while growing older without good training).
I'm favoring this, too.
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:22 pm
by Luna
A good opportunity to try out this foe setting at the control panel. Thanks for the stimulus^^
Re: Farmteams and "money making with farming"
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:05 pm
by flockmastoR
yeah the jps way sucks! so any changes done or just talking here (think the second one)