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Dont understand the race end yesterday Japan tour 23 hour.
Tigri, lausitz and me at bunnys hr. tigri get the hr, lausitz andi not.
i think not that he was the strongest of the three riders, lando at good form and at the rules " see at the end "
the strongest rider gets the hr. tigri sami valle 55 flat - 91 sprint , lausitz sören paerregaard 62 flat - 93 sprint,
lando filiberto 64 flat - 92 sprint. soo i dont understand, i think energie of sami valle the lowest of all, flat the lowest
of all, sprint too, so why he get the hr??


Km: 142, Steigung: 0

500 bis zum Ziel
Megumi Sagano (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) sprintet von vorne
Megumi Sagano (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic):
Akira Takano (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Akira Takano (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) geht ans Hinterrad
Ricardo Carrilho (tigri etrusche) sprintet von vorne
Ricardo Carrilho (tigri etrusche):
Luigi Maniero (tigri etrusche) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Luigi Maniero (tigri etrusche) geht ans Hinterrad
Luigi Maniero (tigri etrusche):
Luiz Lima (tigri etrusche) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Luiz Lima (tigri etrusche) geht ans Hinterrad
Luiz Lima (tigri etrusche):
Gianluca Fantastico (tigri etrusche) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Gianluca Fantastico (tigri etrusche) geht ans Hinterrad
Gianluca Fantastico (tigri etrusche):
Antonio Epaminondas (tigri etrusche) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Antonio Epaminondas (tigri etrusche) geht ans Hinterrad
Eero Tarvainen (Floppzzy) sprintet von vorne
Eero Tarvainen (Floppzzy):
Jay Thayers (Floppzzy) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Jay Thayers (Floppzzy) geht ans Hinterrad
Jay Thayers (Floppzzy):
Medaka Kurokami (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Robert Lafondue (francais) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Medaka Kurokami (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) geht ans Hinterrad
Haralds Valmikovs (RSC-Sigulda) sprintet von vorne
Haralds Valmikovs (RSC-Sigulda):
Tomas Sirvais (RSC-Sigulda) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Christoph Grissemann (Ambition) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Tomas Sirvais (RSC-Sigulda) geht ans Hinterrad
Tomas Sirvais (RSC-Sigulda):
Randy Orton (TEAM TDX) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Santiago Lopez (Incas) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Randy Orton (TEAM TDX) geht ans Hinterrad
Randy Orton (TEAM TDX):
Yvon Vite (francais) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Paul Paterek (Team ABC-Polsat) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Remus Avranescu (NoPikouze) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Yvon Vite (francais) geht ans Hinterrad
Yvon Vite (francais):
Curtis Lemansky (NoPikouze) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Maya Natsume (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Andreas Wiedemann (Froehns Team) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Curtis Lemansky (NoPikouze) geht ans Hinterrad
Curtis Lemansky (NoPikouze):
Iannis Kapralos (Bunny Funny) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Iannis Kapralos (Bunny Funny) geht ans Hinterrad
Iannis Kapralos (Bunny Funny):
Sami Valle (tigri etrusche) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Lando Filiberto (Eifelriders) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Sören Paerregaard (TEAM LAUSITZ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Sami Valle (tigri etrusche) geht ans Hinterrad
Sami Valle (tigri etrusche):
Seiji Kitagawa (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Seiji Kitagawa (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Seiji Kitagawa (r TAKA ):
Hikaru Toyotomi (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Hikaru Toyotomi (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Hikaru Toyotomi (r TAKA ):
Daisuke Hikita (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Daisuke Hikita (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Daisuke Hikita (r TAKA ):
Sasuke Uchiwa (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Sasuke Uchiwa (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Sasuke Uchiwa (r TAKA ):
Arno Wollfinger (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Arno Wollfinger (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Arno Wollfinger (r TAKA ):
Rabeh Bekri (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Rabeh Bekri (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Rabeh Bekri (r TAKA ):
Akihito Oda (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Akihito Oda (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Akihito Oda (r TAKA ):
Emilio Burdisso (r TAKA ) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Emilio Burdisso (r TAKA ) geht ans Hinterrad
Lando Filiberto (Eifelriders):
Claudius Homberg (Froehns Team) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Claudius Homberg (Froehns Team) geht ans Hinterrad
Andreas Wiedemann (Froehns Team):
Stefan Fügemann (Froehns Team) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Stefan Fügemann (Froehns Team) geht ans Hinterrad
Paul Paterek (Team ABC-Polsat):
Kanako Miyamae (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Augustin Mendoza (Incas) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Kanako Miyamae (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) geht ans Hinterrad
Christoph Grissemann (Ambition):
Burton Wendroff (Bunny Funny) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Burton Wendroff (Bunny Funny) geht ans Hinterrad
Floris Maljers (Floppzzy) sprintet von vorne
Floris Maljers (Floppzzy):
Robbie Williams (Floppzzy) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Tenma Tsukamoto (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Robbie Williams (Floppzzy) geht ans Hinterrad
Tenma Tsukamoto (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic):
Ching Pochong (francais) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Ching Pochong (francais) geht ans Hinterrad
Ching Pochong (francais):
Hans Blocher (francais) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Hans Blocher (francais) geht ans Hinterrad
Hans Blocher (francais):
Jakub Lewandowski (Team ABC-Polsat) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Jakub Lewandowski (Team ABC-Polsat) geht ans Hinterrad
Erwin VanderPloeg (Floppzzy) sprintet von vorne
Erwin VanderPloeg (Floppzzy):
Lorenzo Flores (Floppzzy) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Lorenzo Flores (Floppzzy) geht ans Hinterrad
Lorenzo Flores (Floppzzy):
Madoka Kido (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) versucht ans Hinterrad zu kommen
Madoka Kido (PKMN RumbleBoxHolic) geht ans Hinterrad

Rules:
Versuchen mehrere Fahrer in einem Sprint an das Hinterrad desselben Fahrers zu gehen, gelingt dies nur dem stärksten. Dieser erhält den vollen Bonus von 1/10 des Sprintwerts des Vordermanns - der Fahrer, der das Hinterrad verpasst hat, erhält nur einen Bonus von 1/30.

luck?

Who stand it in the rules that word " luck "??

Team Saller wrote:Who stand it in the rules that word " luck "??

always funny when "common teams" remark something which guys like BQ, BSE, TT, Brio, me and some others remark since ages

Rockstar Inc wrote:

Team Saller wrote:Who stand it in the rules that word " luck "??

always funny when "common teams" remark something which guys like BQ, BSE, TT, Brio, me and some others remark since ages

das interessiert aber den macher nicht im geringsten

andere sachen sind ja hier wichtiger

verliere sprints gegen einen 85er meiner 94 mit guter form, dann kommt er nicht an einem 90er vorbei

heute 4 schlechtere vor mir darunter 90er meiner 93.

schaff endlich diesen mist ab Buh

Was, den Zufall?

Sprintänderung ist eh in Planung innerhalb der nächsten 2 Monate.

i also think with the sprint system we have at the moment we don´t need any kind of "luck" that makes the sprint more uncertain.

buh:

Sprintänderung ist eh in Planung innerhalb der nächsten 2 Monate.

change the sprint-sytem?

what does that mean exactly?

We will integrate a more interactive sprint, where you can make decisions every 50 or 100 metres. Sprint in reality is very important and emotional, so we need to try adapt this for the game.

Buhmann wrote:We will integrate a more interactive sprint, where you can make decisions every 50 or 100 metres. Sprint in reality is very important and emotional, so we need to try adapt this for the game.

every 50m looks a lot

Sounds great

Pokemon Club wrote:

Buhmann wrote:We will integrate a more interactive sprint, where you can make decisions every 50 or 100 metres. Sprint in reality is very important and emotional, so we need to try adapt this for the game.

every 50m looks a lot

I don't think so. Think of the last 500m like of the last 10km and it's pretty much the same, just with different decisions to make. To me, an interactive sprint sounds like an excellent idea.

can you develop your idea?
what kind of decisions could we make?

I would like to see the option "put wooden stick in [...]'s wheel". The success of this action depends on the average of flat, sprint and pavé skill + Reg / ridden races.

Alkworld wrote:

Pokemon Club wrote:

Buhmann wrote:We will integrate a more interactive sprint, where you can make decisions every 50 or 100 metres. Sprint in reality is very important and emotional, so we need to try adapt this for the game.

every 50m looks a lot

I don't think so. Think of the last 500m like of the last 10km and it's pretty much the same, just with different decisions to make. To me, an interactive sprint sounds like an excellent idea.

I am disagree, it will decrease a lot the chance to win for guys who have a weak sprint skills. Looks it wiil disadvantage weakspriner in escape more than now. During MS guys with less 90 sprint will wait a mirale to win. And for chance of KS against HS, classics against KS...looks they hae no chance if managers have 5 or 10 min to change their strategy if they see an enough dangerous guy go at 500m

Pokemon Club wrote:

Alkworld wrote:

Pokemon Club wrote:

Buhmann wrote:We will integrate a more interactive sprint, where you can make decisions every 50 or 100 metres. Sprint in reality is very important and emotional, so we need to try adapt this for the game.

every 50m looks a lot

I don't think so. Think of the last 500m like of the last 10km and it's pretty much the same, just with different decisions to make. To me, an interactive sprint sounds like an excellent idea.

I am disagree, it will decrease a lot the chance to win for guys who have a weak sprint skills. Looks it wiil disadvantage weakspriner in escape more than now. During MS guys with less 90 sprint will wait a mirale to win. And for chance of KS against HS, classics against KS...looks they hae no chance if managers have 5 or 10 min to change their strategy if they see an enough dangerous guy go at 500m

it's the same in reality

NicoVanarlo wrote:

Pokemon Club wrote:I am disagree, it will decrease a lot the chance to win for guys who have a weak sprint skills. Looks it wiil disadvantage weakspriner in escape more than now. During MS guys with less 90 sprint will wait a mirale to win. And for chance of KS against HS, classics against KS...looks they hae no chance if managers have 5 or 10 min to change their strategy if they see an enough dangerous guy go at 500m

it's the same in reality

I have to agree with NicoVanarlo, but I also have to say two things:
1) Our sprint skills being as different as they are may also be a bit unrealistic. At the moment it's impossible for a 70 sprinter to win a sprint against a 95 sprinter, even if 70 sprints from 500m with support vs 95 from 50m without support.
2) Did I miss something? Did Buhmann already announce what he'll implement? How do you know by now that your hill sprinter (and others of course ) won't have a chance?

Alkworld wrote:1) Our sprint skills being as different as they are may also be a bit unrealistic. At the moment it's impossible for a 70 sprinter to win a sprint against a 95 sprinter, even if 70 sprints from 500m with support vs 95 from 50m without support.

wait for -1 then it's possible. Cordero lost with 93 Sprint against a 66 sprint on -1..the 66 sprintguy had 6x dowmhillskill

Alkworld wrote:

NicoVanarlo wrote:2) Did I miss something? Did Buhmann already announce what he'll implement? How do you know by now that your hill sprinter (and others of course ) won't have a chance?

Didn't say they have no chance, just that chances of weaker guys will decrease !

Be happy the sprinter teams haven't proposed their dream scenario yet
Back to the beginning of RSF where sprint was just "sort the riders according to their sprint skill" (ok, nowadays form would make a difference)

The sprint is clearly fucked up

What's this:

1 Goss
2 Belletti
3 Ciolek
4 Ferrari
5 Cavendish
6 Demare
7 Greipel
8 Sbaragli

Scandalous! We all know Cav is 99 and since there is no malus in real life he should win each time. If not him, Greipel with his 96. All the rest has max 92, Belletti actually 86, Ciolek 88 Ferrari 89, Demare 91 and Sbaragli 75 or so.

Scandal, scandal, scandal.
Clearly real life needs a reform.
To get in line with our sprinter teams delusions!

Another interesting thing: Despite all warning by the sprint teams that sprinters are dicriminated by the current RSF/C4F physics, the riders with the most stage wins (only active riders) at the moment are sprinters:

1. Jack Marston
2. José Goncalvez
3. Jonas Iten
4. Guy Blaise
5. Ronny Callois

First non-spinter follows on place 6, the extraordinary time trialist Ruben Creel.

Place 7 is held by Fournier, another extraordinary rider, still 89-63 with 36 years and two sprinters Sancho Aguirresarobe and Dieter Matt

Place 10. with 15 victories is already crowded with 4 riders, two of them sprinters.


Don't want to interprete too much, I think these numbers speak for themselves.

team fl wrote:Another interesting thing: Despite all warning by the sprint teams that sprinters are dicriminated by the current RSF/C4F physics, the riders with the most stage wins (only active riders) at the moment are sprinters:

1. Jack Marston
2. José Goncalvez
3. Jonas Iten
4. Guy Blaise
5. Ronny Callois

First non-spinter follows on place 6, the extraordinary time trialist Ruben Creel.

Place 7 is held by Fournier, another extraordinary rider, still 89-63 with 36 years and two sprinters Sancho Aguirresarobe and Dieter Matt

Place 10. with 15 victories is already crowded with 4 riders, two of them sprinters.


Don't want to interprete too much, I think these numbers speak for themselves.

Please Update with the right info

Do you know the word "exemplarisch", in English exemplary, in Italian esemplare?

Esemplare= Like a model, for example.

But i don't read it on your post:
Probably i'm blind;)

Like it looks Buh have a little time this month, maybe he can try to correct the "helper bug" during the sprint when the helper and the leader isn't in the same group ? (If it is possible to correct it)