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dayform

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:46 pm
by Quick
Discussed it anywhere. Dayform is randomness +1 or -1. We know - this is realistic, but we didn't want it, because for some of you the random-part would became to high.(which meant training and JTM-riders). So, something will change soon: Jtm - auctions. Everybody has the same chance now... so there's a space for more randomness. Go dayform!

Re: dayform

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:09 pm
by Luna
I have nothing against it.

Shall it be shown for the manager at the beginning of the race, or even at midnight? I would prefer to not show it at all. You have to find out by yourself, maybe at a climb or with checking power loss or just take it as surprise when it comes to the raec decision.

Re: dayform

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:15 pm
by auxilium torino
normaly, if i am the manager , the riders must say to me if their are in form or not...i must to know for the race

Re: dayform

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:23 pm
by claw
auxilium torino wrote:normaly, if i am the manager , the riders must say to me if their are in form or not...i must to know for the race
in real, you also dont know it before the race everytime

Re: dayform

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:32 pm
by Luna
Yes, often it happens that one rider only speaks about it during a race, sometimes short from the finish, that he doesn't have the legs today.

Re: dayform

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:36 am
by Quick
I'd like to have dayform, because RSF would become more unpredictable... nowadays you know at 80% of mountain stages or time trials the winner.(100form doesn't bring an advantage often because you can be sure that the other have it too - in important races). And so i also would prefer not to see the dayform.

Re: dayform

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:51 am
by Zentaron
Why ride the races? Throw some dices to know whos winning.

Okay, for some races it would be nice, but as you know, i am a pure sprinter team and in sprint races there is enough, no, there is too much coincidence at the moment. And as long as that isn't changed, i am against another kind of it.

@Quick You are too fast. :P

Re: dayform

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:53 am
by Quick
kind of ironic that this comes from the dicemaster "le roi du sprint" ;)

Re: dayform

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:25 pm
by ariostea
i don´t know if we need dayform for less foreseeability in the races.

i think more effective would be to bring more competition into the races. meaning: having less races per day but better pelotons. and make "racing cheap and saving ennergy" but taking money with some places less attractive compared to go for a win. more competition brings less foreseeabiltiy too...

on the other hand i am not strict against it. it might be quite realistic. especially when the rider/manager does not know it. you can hear it quite often in interviews - "actually i felt really good to 30km before the finish, but then i just did not have the legs and don´t know why..."

Re: dayform

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:13 am
by auxilium torino
if you want more casualty, let us have weather preference and incident.

Re: dayform

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:58 pm
by Berlin Marks
i think the dayform is a good idea! :)