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Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:07 pm
by Pirkio
how the meteo can change a ride?
I read in a 3D something about this someone can help me?
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:30 pm
by Buhmann
What?

I donßt understand the question. But this could be my fault

Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:23 pm
by skull
something with the weather i guess
sounds like a translator - maybe tell aux in italian and he can tell us

Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:38 pm
by NoPikouze
He has a 3D version of the game, I want it too!
The main influence of the weather (meteo) is that riders lose more energy. And with rain you can do downhill siebs.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:14 pm
by Luna
Hot weather or cold weather = big energy loss per km.
Rain = extra energy loss per km. The more rain, the higher the loss; per km
Backwind = good for escapees, headwind = bad for escapees (plus effecting the energy cost for making tempo)
Strong rain (= 3 rain drops under the cloud) = possibility of splitting the field on high(!) degrees of downhill (only when a strong downhiller makes tempo).
Have I forgotten something?
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:31 pm
by NoPikouze
I don't think you need STRONG rain to make a split
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:35 pm
by Buhmann
Time-Trial: Risk has more influence, when it rains.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:43 pm
by Robyklebt
Maybe he asks about Buhmanns most fantastic innovation ever?
Animated rain? Can be changed under profile, and has no influence whatsoever on anything.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:39 pm
by Luna
NoPikouze wrote:I don't think you need STRONG rain to make a split
You do, for sure. It works only with strooooong rain. And only at steeeep descents.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:02 pm
by Pirkio
Thank you guys for the reply.. yes "Meteo" is the weather don't remember this
Didn't understand well the split whit downhill and rain the rest is ok

Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:05 pm
by Lizard
Okay, then once again a little more in detail:
When the weather is "heavy rain" there is a chance to split the peloton at a downhill (which is not possible without heavy rain). When the descent is around 9%+ and a strong downhill rider (78+) is in tempo, the weak downhill riders can be dropped.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:09 pm
by Luna
Pirkio wrote:
Didn't understand well the split whit downhill and rain the rest is ok

It's a bit like at a steep climb. If it rains heavily and a strong downhiller sets the pace, then the field falls into peaces. The better downhiller in the first groups and the weaker downhillers get dropped.
But that happens only once in a while .You will experience it sometime.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:11 pm
by Cerro Torre RT
the weak downhill riders you mean, climbing has nothing to do with that. And if you want to write exactly, the siebing rider does not only need a good downhill value, he too has to be fit.
and Luna, it happens very few. Since I returned last year I never saw any race with a downhill sieb.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:26 pm
by olmania
and Luna, it happens very few. Since I returned last year I never saw any race with a downhill sieb.
You've to watch my races !
Everbody's os always siebing the OL's leaders in Downhill !
In the past that was for Lhotellerie, SantaCruz or Grandlac. And now, it's for Chellis
I hate this downhill rule

Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:28 pm
by NoPikouze
I like to do them
Ok much less since I've a classic rider with 53 downhill...
About the heavy rain, i'm convinced I saw someone say "wow I thought it worked only with heavy rain" after a sieb (with light rain)... Must be my imagination, since I would not question your experience.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:33 pm
by Luna
Maybe the weather changed to 3 rain drops exactly the km of the selection after a long period of 2 rain drops.
Or maybe it was only a rider with 45 downhill and 50 energy who got lost. Might be that those guys would get dropped even under 2 rain drops.
Re: Meteo
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:14 pm
by olmania
olmania wrote:and Luna, it happens very few. Since I returned last year I never saw any race with a downhill sieb.
You've to watch my races !
Everbody's os always siebing the OL's leaders in Downhill !
In the past that was for Lhotellerie, SantaCruz or Grandlac. And now, it's for Chellis
I hate this downhill rule

Today 19h JuraTour, -12% !
And sure, Chellis siebed

Re: Meteo
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:02 pm
by Zauberlehrling
Tour du Jura, 21h: Tazman twice siebed away downhill

Re: Meteo
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:37 pm
by Elaska
NoPikouze wrote:He has a 3D version of the game, I want it too!
The main influence of the weather (meteo) is that riders lose more energy. And with rain you can do downhill siebs.
RSF in 3D ??
