Reactivation of inactive teams

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Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by NoPikouze » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:36 pm

Right now, an inactive team goes to D7, and when he races again he goes right into D5, even if he doesnt have the 1500 required eternal points.
As a result, you can go to D4 (or even D3 perhaps) with 2 races in your whole career, only by buying a rider with much actual points.
Or build farmteams since a D5 can buy young riders.
Easy solution, put the reactivated teams back into D6 if they don't have the famous 1500 eternal points.

e.g. BBOXBouygues is in D4 with 20 races and 8 riders. Just noobing around and trying to understand the game I guess (no offense). But now he cant reset and is kind of fucked for a month.
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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Luna » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:45 pm

He should follow your signature :D

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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Buhmann » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:46 pm

This is a bug, need to solve this.

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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:09 pm

Is it solved?
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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Buhmann » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:12 pm

Hmm. I think no...but is not really a big problem :oops:

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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:44 pm

No, it's not really a big problem? You're right, it's not a really big problem with the current system. No reason not to correct it, but ok.

With, as you decided, D5 joining auctions they are a problem.

May I introduce: CC Chatelaillon, Chatel his team now.

He's a young french, he's probably a nice guy, even if he managed to bring the french part of the forum to the brink of collective suicide. By asking, asking, asking, asking and then doing something completely different. Plus he only builds his team mostly, he doesn't have time to ride, school, parents, something like that.

So.. he builds his team. Rebuilds it after NoPik says that would be better, rebuilds it again after NoPik says that a good team for a beginner, rebuilds it after Aix says that the climber doesn't have enough flat, rebuilds it after Aix said that he should have kept the climber, he still was good, rebuilds it if nobody says anything, rebuilds it if somebody says good morning .

11 races, 212 eternal points, 1 victory, 79 tranfers since January. 56 of those buys. He's in D5.

Now he has 5 riders, the remaining 4.. nobody knows, he's missing again since the beginning of march. Could very well be youth riders.

So now, Chatel, will join and bid for youth riders .Roughly 18 times a month. Since he can only reset every 2 weeks if I'm not mistaken, he won't join more often. Maybe even less. But, not having to care about any 50 rules or such shit, he can sell his riders sometimes in the next month, and he will. He's CC Chatelaillon after all. He doesn't ride, he buys and sells and asks if he's team is good, then, since he barely rides even when he's active, to keep active he redoes the team. Of course he never learns what riders are good, which bad, since he keeps them for what hours, sometimes a few days, maybe once even a week? And that won't change now, if he comes back. so what do we have? A guy that doesn't know what to do, he really wants whatever he thinks is the top of top now, buys it for 120% after 4 tries and not understanding that his minimum bid wasn't accepted, now I want him, reallly want that guy, then buys a few like that, runs out of money,resets. Restart, this time doesn't run out of money, but in may, he resells them all anyway. And so fucking on. NOw CC Chatelaillon being Chatelaillon,he'll pay 120% for a 46-52-52-46-77 with 65 reg. And for the 73-56-79 as well. Old system: VERY likely he never gets even to see a rider like that. He just goes on the market when he thinks its time to rebuild, newcomers don't go right at the refresh usually. Now he'll see them all, he'll overpay for all of them, he'll sell them all soon. And what's the result? He pushes the prices up, hurting not only himself, but not really since he'll just reset anyway sooner or later, but hurting everybody else. By regularly overpaying, he'll take a rider away from a serious manager each time, by overpaying he'll force the prices up everywhere. Which doesn't hurt him that much, reset!, but everybody else.

that's Chatelaillon. He'll not bring down RSF on his own. I'm sure there's others around, maybe not so active in the forum, just silently doing their teambuilding buying-selling, you should be honored, the market seems to be so well done some people have enough fun just doing that. Some might be found in D5 anyway, other come up after a break, wiht less than 200 points. And others that maybe ride too, will become serious managers, try the game, then take a break, remember it, try it again, wow, cool buying system, x percent, mmh, didn't get him, ok, max, gets him, this one sucks though..he simply doesn't know the value of riders yet, has no real clue about the game yet. He hurts himself in this case. In other cases again, others, not knowing how it works, he'll buy 3 useless ones for 120%, 3 good ones for 120%, running out of money, not able to ride, sell them all early next month or reset, you leave him no other choice.

The mass of these managers, 72 are in D5 by bug right now, makes a difference, even if not all are activ, even if not all will overpay, many will, not even their fault, they just don't know better

So, you just made a minor problem, this bug, a much bigger problem by inviting them to the actions. Hurting all serious managers, from D1-5, and making D6b feel like idiots, why can't I restart with youth riders? When Buhmann insists on having CC Chatelaillon participate?
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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Buhmann » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:12 am

The bug is fixed now..

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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by Elaska » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:16 am

Oh no you write too much Roby ! Nice story but too long ! cannot read all your posts man !!!
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Re: Reactivation of inactive teams

Post by olmania » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:57 pm

I cannot believe that a guy like Chateillon deserve 30' of your attention for a brilliant post such as this one Robysinge ! :lol:

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