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not being able to follow while a weaker rider can?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:44 am
by Rasmussenbank
happened today at the 9h race, last km of the stage:


Km: 126, Stijging: 4, Kopfsteinpflaster: 1*, Meters left: 450

Aatto Kuutti (Black-Star) demarreert.

Mauricio Ortega (ONCE-Team) springt mee.
Ludo Tezier (opera) kan niet volgen.
Maya Natsume (r Sukuran Pokemon) kan niet volgen.
Jorge CarreraAndrade (Alkworld) springt mee.
Thor Hammerson (Rasmussenbank) kan niet volgen.
Vladislav Andrianov (ONCE-Team) demarreert.

Masi Berrebbah (Black-Star) demarreert.
Daiken Sekiguchi (Petit Singe) kan niet volgen.
Luis Costales (Alkworld) kan niet volgen.
Medaka Kurokami (r Sukuran Pokemon) kan niet volgen.
Ian Mcfly (SV Furpach) kan niet volgen.
Amadeusz Raczinski (Rasmussenbank) kan niet volgen.
Kaspar Toonik (Team ART) kan niet weg komen.

both attacks round out at the same second, meaning all riders that followed/attacked ended up in the same group: alks rider is a bit weaker (99 form, still weaker then raczinski with 90.6 form) but follows Kuutti, cant follow berrebbah with raczinski. all participants had full energy

is this just me or is this a bit weird?

Re: not being able to follow while a weaker rider can?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:04 am
by team fl
Last km: 4% with * pavé

CarreraAndrade: 70-79 with 71.5 Pavé, 99 Form ~ 72-81 with 71.9 Pavé
-> follows Kutti: 73-82 with 73.9 Pavé (form and power not known)

Raczinski: 73-81 wotj 73.8 Pavé, 90.6 Form ~72.5-80.5 with 73.5 Pavé
-> follows Berrebah: 76-82 with 71.5 Pavé (form and power not known)

It's not uncommon that two riders with slightly different skill (here Kutti and Berrebah) land in the same group after an attack at 4% (with or without * pavé), although on of them is slightly stronger on that km. The difference was just not worth 1 sec at that km. But it was worth for other rider to be able to follow or not, in this case for CarreraAndrade who followed the slightly weaker rider (Kutti) and Raczinski who followed the slightly stronger rider (Berrebah) with almost the same relative skills (power I don't know).

Can happen, in my opinion.

Re: not being able to follow while a weaker rider can?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:22 pm
by IDF
Not 71.9 but 72.9 for Alk.

1 flat pt = 0.7 pavé

He has 99 form.. so 2 more flat points --> 1.4

71.5 +1.4= 72.9 :)

but strange indeed...