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That's already the second time I started than topic without any real goals to go into it... just taking par because it is the Giro, quite sure the only GT I will ride that year.

Ok, headfirst I have to make an adjustment to that announcement. Don't expect me to ride field 2. If it shows that there are more than 22 teams, I may consider to switch to 22, though it's to late actually, or won't ride it at all. I will for sure not do field 2. If both times get splitted, then I have to let it pass.

Team this year: Expensive, senceless, but well, if I won't by another rider I won't come out with a minus afterwards.It will contain of:

x1 Warren Harding
x2 Tuomas Holopainen
x3 Marian Hossa
x4 Adrian Ilie
x5 Ryan O'Reilly
x6 Alexey Rastvortsev
x7 Snæbjörn Snæbjörnsson
x8 Rene Toft Hansen
x9 Arda Turan

Goals: The tour win, what else?

A reachable prediction of what to achieve: As I know how Grand Tours usually are ridden, there's not much sence in hoping for a stage win. To get involved at least one time in a fight for it would be an achievement already. Besides that I at least hope for some room for actions that bring some fun, though I do not really expect that.

And as usual, I will miss at least 4 days. Stage 5 to 8 are sure misses, but beside 6 heavily uniteresting anyway, both to ride activly and to watch.

Team Maurice:

1: Frederico Bahamontes - (24) the team captain who has good chances for top3 gc and the youth rider jersey is save
2: Hennes Junkermann - (28) only bought to help Frederico on the mountains with his 61 reg
3: Gergo Verraszto - (32) the oldie but one of the beste classic rider in the field
4: Constante Girardengo - (24) the woman in the field and in the team.... will be in some seasons a strong classic rider.
5: Niclas Donner - (30) bought to make tempo in the TTT
6: JoseLuis Kasa - (25) helper
7: Marcelo Omar - (27) helper
8: Fabricio Vidal - ( 24) helper
9: Wisilfredo Boti - (29) helper

We want to win the Giro and maybe we will get one stage
Team with 505k very expensive but you will see how strong WE are

Do you know that Costante is a Male Name?

Im also starting at 20h, but my LineUp is still unclear.

#1: Sprinter - Team captain
#2: Bram vanBijert - The cronoman
#3: Eoin Boyd - Classic captain
#4: Alec Brodie - Classic helper
#5: Morgan Franklin - Oldie and flat helper
#6: Wout Hartig - Flat helper
#7: Johan Mühlena - Flat helper
#8: Horeste Juarez - Flat helper
#9: Callum ODwyer - Classic helper or Collin Doherty as a flat helper and budget rider

May I ask why you didjn't want to use the fred I opened nearly a weak ago?

I answer for him. Didn't see the thread I guess!

Edit: Ape merged the topics now. Hope that's ok.

Start there not a big team 413K Salary

Goals having some fun

Okay, r Sukuran Pokemon will finally ride at 20h. Ambitions ? We will see.

r Sukuran Pokemon

1 Yakumo Tsukamoto
2 Tenma Tsukamoto
3 Maya Natsume
4 Medaka Kurokami
5 Eri Sawachika
6 Kanako Miyamae
7 Granit Xhaka
8 Akira Takano
9 Sarah Adiemus

Time to check favorite for this group :
14 teams, 126 riders, not big.

Teams List :
Cerro Torre RT, DRC de Mol, Hansa, Maurice, RS Ostfriesland, RS Walbeck, r Sukuran Pokemon, sguzzen, Sonnenchein, Sportfreunde, Stahl and Eisel, stevens, TeamArgovia, team ferrari


General Classement

***** Frederico Bahamontes (Maurice), Alberto Velasco (stevens)
**** Philémon BangBang (Sonnenchein), Charles Oakley (Sportfreunde)
*** Gian Thu (RS Walbeck)
** Leonore Pusti (team ferrari), Yakumo Tsukamoto (r Sukuran Pokemon), Piet Versteeg (DRC de Mol)
* Oliver Hediger (Hansa), Hennes Junkermann (Maurice), Than NGuyen (RS Walbeck), Tenma Tsukamoto (r Sukuran Pokemon)

The tour will play certainly between Bahamontes, BangBang, Oakley, Velasco and Thu.
Bahamontes, strong leader with a good reg+TT combination, good helper with Junkermann, strong to beat him
BangBang and Oakley are nearly the same, good climber, but with more TT for BangBang and more reg for Oakley
Velasco has a perfect montain+flat+reg combination, the best climber here
Thu has a very strong team, a strong mountain, but with his flat it will be difficult

Points Classement

***** Lucio Costa (Sportfreunde), Andrea Guardini (team ferrari), Kanako Miyamae (r Sukuran Pokemon)
**** Arda Turan (Cerro Torre RT)
*** Cliff Oshea (RS Ostfriesland), Nazario Fiakaifonu (sguzzen)
** Minh Bui (RS Walbeck), Ignacio Sanchez (stevens), Kustaa Tero (Team Argovia), Arie Verluis (DRC de Mol),
* Eoin Boyd (RS Ostfriesland), Johann Dutertre (Stahl and Eisel), Adrian Ilie (Cerro Torre RT), Maya Natsume (r Sukuran Pokemon), Jannes Slendebroeck (DRC de Mol), Nicolai Valuev (Sportfreunde), Alberto Velasco (stevens)

The race will say us which sort of guy can win it.

Mountain Classement

***** Jochen Zwingli (Hansa)
**** Malcom Carter (TeamArgovia)
*** Alberto Velasco (stevens)
** Mecury Ryan (TeamArgovia)
* Others guys who want join this fight

A courageous guy will win it.

Young Classement

***** Frederico Bahamontes (Maurice)
****
***
**
* Oliver Hediger (Hansa)

No fight here.

Team Classement

***** RS Walbeck
**** Maurice
*** r Sukuran Pokemon
**
* stevens

More you have climbers better it is for this classement, I guess.

Stage: 1 - 4 May : Napoli, 156.00 km

01. 00:00:00 Arda Turan (Cerro Torre RT)
02. 00:00:00 Andreea Guardini (team ferrari)
03. 00:00:00 Kanako Miyamae (r Sukuran Pokemon)

General Classement

01. 00:00:00 Arda Turan (Cerro Torre RT)
02. 00:00:10 Andreea Guardini (team ferrari)
03. 00:00:14 Kanako Miyamae (r Sukuran Pokemon)
...

Points Classement

01. 30 Arda Turan (Cerro Torre RT)
02. 25 Andreea Guardini (team ferrari)
03. 21 Kanako Miyamae (r Sukuran Pokemon)
...

Mountain Classement

01. 5 Jochen Zwingli (Hansa)
02. 5 Malcom Carter (TeamArgovia)
03. 2 Mecury Ryan (TeamArgovia)
...

Young Classement

01. 00:20 Oliver Hediger (Hansa)
02. 00:20 Elias Grell (Hansa)
03. 00:20 Frederico Bahamontes (Maurice)
...

Team Classement
...

I Will speak about my team .

1 - Alberto Velasco ( 27 years ) = Leader
2 - Ignacio Sanchez ( 27 years ) = classic captain
3 - Riccardo Costa ( 27 years ) = classic helper
4 - Aitor Fernandez ( 25 years ) = I love him because his skills are good ^^ (62-84 it's really interesting )
5 - Luke Delong ( 32 years ) = my strongest flat rider and good in downhill
6 - Angelo Fernandez ( 27 years ) = an other flat rider really good in downhill
7 - Fernando Gomez ( 29 years ) = good helper
8 - Mario Basini ( 22 years ) = the yongest rider in the team , he is really good in downhill
9 - Camille Combal ( 27 years) = Good in all skills for an helper ( not in montain )

Ok, haven't seen that Bahamontes is still that young, so he might play a role, as till the first mountain stage, he already can rise to 84. On the other side, and that's my mayor concern with your listing, every stage offers a 20s of bonification, which Bahamontes will never reach on any stage. I count 6 mountain arrivals, so you can easily count on the strongest mountain riders to win 1:00 to 1:30 only through bonifications. Taking into account that some of them are very steep, it's easy to prdict they can win quite some time beside the bonification. The Mountain time trail will not seperate the climbers by much. So in my eyes, the ***** doesn't belong to Bahamontes, but to Velasco. Swithc him with Bahamontes, and I am with you.

Another thing I do totally disagree with is the points classification. All stages beside time trails are worth the same points, so it leaves the Hill sprinters as only favourites, followed by the mountain riders. Real sprinters don't stand the slightest chance.

The other yerseys, I honestly don't care about at all, so neither opinion nor interest from me.

yep with 20-12-8 it isn't the same and for green hum depend how the race will develop

Velasco loose 1 star with the time trial ^^ i loose 1 min about bahamontes ; and Gian Thu can also win many bonification during all the race

1 min is nothing for you ^^

I think that the a top3 for Bahamontes is aceptable but with the bonifications he has no chance against velasco and Thu
so for me:
***** Velasco
**** Thu, BangBang
*** Bahamontes

LOL
Maurice you are the favo bahamontes is really strong ( 83 and 65 in TT ) , i will start the montain stage with 5 min 30 behind you so for me i'm not alone with 5 stars ....

with the 2 Maurice climbers who have a good reg and the long TT, it will be haaaaaaaaard to catch you

What a psychologic war...

Well, I'd hope that "You are the Favo!" attidude is carried into the mountain stages, that would be a huge benefit for me.

My Favo is Walbeck than poke Big Thanks to Poke and Cerro for Todays stage was nice to ride with you maybe we can do this some more

Me favo ? Lol what a joke !

you can beat walbeck with your crazy tactics and in my opinion youre the only one

And why walbeck is favo for you ?

Dont worry, Velasco is also favo stevens *g*